Stereotyping to make you cry.

SeaCat

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My wife was talking with one of her co-workers today. An absolutely stunning young lady. (Stunning? She would make a bronze Monkey sweat as well as get a hard on.) When my wife asked her why she didn't seem overly friendly with me her rely almost made me cry.
"Your husband wouldn't like me, my breasts are too small."
Yes her breasts are smsall, but like I said she would make a brass monkey sweat. It took me damn near an hour to explain to her that her breasts were not too small. (As I explained it to her, she is absolutley edible and any time she wants me to prove it I would gladly dive her breasts a taste test.)

Man what is it about American Males that can make a lovely young lady feel the way she did/does?

Cat
 
Those sorts of things always look so odd from the outside. I recall reading an advice column by a young man who'd written into a UK columnist about how teasing was making his life a living hell. His co-workers and "mates" were at him all of the time, and he felt that he would never have a girlfriend or a decent job because of this terrible physical deformity.

What was it? Red hair.

That's it. The same color as that of Achilles. The same color as that of my aunt, who has always been considered the stunner of the (stunning) family. The same color that inevitably catches my eye and interest at about twice the speed of any other color. Red hair. He couldn't bear it any longer.

It's amazing what people will choose to needle someone about, and how utterly arbitrary it all is, in the end.

Shanglan
 
American Males like Big Breasts. A lot.

Or so marketing, porn, art, literature, film, television, magazines, newspapers, plastic surgeons, horny teenage boys and horny grown men tell us.

If we were inundated with messages about how men like small breasts, the larger ladies would all be stressing about how our breasts are too big and we'd be getting boob reduction surgery.

*shrug*

The best breasts are the ones that feel good when they're touched. :cool:
 
SeaCat said:
It took me damn near an hour to explain to her that her breasts were not too small. (As I explained it to her, she is absolutley edible and any time she wants me to prove it I would gladly dive her breasts a taste test.)
This feeds into her worry about her breasts. It says that breasts are the issue, even if her breasts are ok. She needs to hear that there are many other reasons to like her, regardless of her breasts, and that breasts aren't the make or break reason you would like her.
 
Here's another stereotype to make you cry:

I overheard bits and pieces of a conversation between a man and his wife/girlfriend. She wasn't a stick figure, but neither was she huge. Her husband was trying to convince her how utterly beautiful she was (and she was very attractive) but she kept insisting she was "too fat".

I'm saddened by a culture that still perpetuates the myth that women must be one certain shape and size in order to be beautiful. I'm saddened by women who buy into this bullshit and I'm saddened by men who encourage it because somehow their ego is wrapped up in how good (or not) their girlfriend/wife looks. I just want to say, "Dude, it's not about you."

I think it's utterly pathetic that a woman would think a man would like or dislike her based off the size of her tits. Jesus Christ, grow a sense of self worth already, something based off of more than just your looks.

:mad:
 
<---has red hair...

but also big breasts! <grin>

do they cancel each other out? :confused:
 
Mari J said:
This feeds into her worry about her breasts. It says that breasts are the issue, even if her breasts are ok. She needs to hear that there are many other reasons to like her, regardless of her breasts, and that breasts aren't the make or break reason you would like her.


a-fucking-men
 
Then I must be friggin Canadian, which I ain't I could give a flying fart about big breasts. I like long legs and curvy waistlines. I got over breasts when I was about a year old.
 
Mari J said:
This feeds into her worry about her breasts. It says that breasts are the issue, even if her breasts are ok. She needs to hear that there are many other reasons to like her, regardless of her breasts, and that breasts aren't the make or break reason you would like her.

MariJ,
You don't know me, otherwise you would not have said this. (McKenna you know me better than this.) But I do appologise for not conveying the rest of the conversation.

I had to explain to this young woman, who has a fixation on her breast size, that her breasts don't matter to me. (For that matter neither does her ass size, the length of her legs, etc.) When I look at a woman I look at the whole package. Does she look good inside as well as out? Does she have a mind? A sense of humor? These often count more than mere physical looks. (I would say good looks would just be icing on the cake but I don't like cake. I do enjoy pie though. :D ) It took a while but she soon figured out what I was saying. Needless to say her smile was worth every second of my effort.

Cat
 
SeaCat said:
MariJ,
You don't know me, otherwise you would not have said this. (McKenna you know me better than this.) But I do appologise for not conveying the rest of the conversation.

I had to explain to this young woman, who has a fixation on her breast size, that her breasts don't matter to me. (For that matter neither does her ass size, the length of her legs, etc.) When I look at a woman I look at the whole package. Does she look good inside as well as out? Does she have a mind? A sense of humor? These often count more than mere physical looks. (I would say good looks would just be icing on the cake but I don't like cake. I do enjoy pie though. :D ) It took a while but she soon figured out what I was saying. Needless to say her smile was worth every second of my effort.

Cat

I do know you well enough. :)

We, as women, are inundated from the time we are old enough to get the message with the idea that we need to be "improved." Our breasts aren't big enough, perky enough, etc. Our hips are too big, our skin isn't flawless enough, ad nauseum. It's unfortunate, but it's true.

Because of those messages, it's hard for us to realize that most men appreciate us exactly the way we are.
 
BlackShanglan said:
... and how utterly arbitrary it all is, in the end.

Shanglan

Amen. And, if a physical trait, usually transient. I'd much rather be praised for qualities of character than my tits or ass. The character will remain when my tits are like tangerines in tube socks and my ass is flat and fabbly.
 
I must admit, I am part of the problem.

I prefer naked women.

Sincerely,
ElSol
 
McKenna said:
I'm saddened by a culture that still perpetuates the myth that women must be one certain shape and size in order to be beautiful. I'm saddened by women who buy into this bullshit and I'm saddened by men who encourage it because somehow their ego is wrapped up in how good (or not) their girlfriend/wife looks. I just want to say, "Dude, it's not about you."



:mad:

I agree completely. Beautiful women come in all shapes and sizes. The beauty isn't dictated by the size or shape.
 
why do i feel like i should play devils advocate here?
its lovely that the people in the AH say they don't really care about physical appearance and ive no doubt that alot of you dont really care
that being said...
how many of you actually love/are friends with/care about someone who is vastly different...someone who is of a large size?
please dont blast me, im just asking because of something mentioned in this thread. we are brought up around the idea of what beautiful is. we are surrounded by ads that feature slim *read annorexic* women...not just women though. the men in some ads are slim as well.
i am a large woman and when i see the ads for lane bryant or other large women stores, i cringe. is this what i look like? i dont feel like that! i think it boils down to what messages we are brought up with...how we are raised...what we tell our kids...
oh hell, now im blathering.
 
vella_ms said:
why do i feel like i should play devils advocate here?
its lovely that the people in the AH say they don't really care about physical appearance and ive no doubt that alot of you dont really care
that being said...
how many of you actually love/are friends with/care about someone who is vastly different...someone who is of a large size?
please dont blast me, im just asking because of something mentioned in this thread. we are brought up around the idea of what beautiful is. we are surrounded by ads that feature slim *read annorexic* women...not just women though. the men in some ads are slim as well.
i am a large woman and when i see the ads for lane bryant or other large women stores, i cringe. is this what i look like? i dont feel like that! i think it boils down to what messages we are brought up with...how we are raised...what we tell our kids...
oh hell, now im blathering.

You are beautiful.
 
vella_ms said:
how many of you actually love/are friends with/care about someone who is vastly different...someone who is of a large size?
Is this where we raise our hands? ;) :kiss:


We all have something about ourselves that we hate. That others judge us on, though probably not as much as we feel like they do. For some of us, it's external. For me, it's my skin. For you, it's your weight. For others, maybe it's some other facet of themselves that's not visible. But we're all human, and I for one love our humanity.
 
minsue said:
Is this where we raise our hands? ;) :kiss:


We all have something about ourselves that we hate. That others judge us on, though probably not as much as we feel like they do. For some of us, it's external. For me, it's my skin. For you, it's your weight. For others, maybe it's some other facet of themselves that's not visible. But we're all human, and I for one love our humanity.
brava beautiful
brava
 
vella_ms said:
why do i feel like i should play devils advocate here?
its lovely that the people in the AH say they don't really care about physical appearance and ive no doubt that alot of you dont really care
that being said...
how many of you actually love/are friends with/care about someone who is vastly different...someone who is of a large size?
please dont blast me, im just asking because of something mentioned in this thread. we are brought up around the idea of what beautiful is. we are surrounded by ads that feature slim *read annorexic* women...not just women though. the men in some ads are slim as well.
i am a large woman and when i see the ads for lane bryant or other large women stores, i cringe. is this what i look like? i dont feel like that! i think it boils down to what messages we are brought up with...how we are raised...what we tell our kids...
oh hell, now im blathering.

Vella,
What did I tell you the last time I replied to a post like this from you? If I recall it was something like come to West Palm and I'll make you understand why my wife loves me doing oral on her. As I have said way too many times, its not all about looks. It's about attitude.

Cat
 
Even here though, you see the stereotype. The thin gals get loads of compliments while the larger ones of us get a handful if we are lucky.
 
minsue said:
Is this where we raise our hands? ;) :kiss:


We all have something about ourselves that we hate. That others judge us on, though probably not as much as we feel like they do. For some of us, it's external. For me, it's my skin. For you, it's your weight. For others, maybe it's some other facet of themselves that's not visible. But we're all human, and I for one love our humanity.

Min,
Are you looking for a true confession here? I can give you one. You'll laugh your ass off but then you'll start to wonder, why is it my wife does really stay with me? If you're lucky you'll realize that size actually doesn't matter, it's staying power.

Cat
 
vella_ms said:
why do i feel like i should play devils advocate here?
its lovely that the people in the AH say they don't really care about physical appearance and ive no doubt that alot of you dont really care
that being said...
how many of you actually love/are friends with/care about someone who is vastly different...someone who is of a large size?
please dont blast me, im just asking because of something mentioned in this thread. we are brought up around the idea of what beautiful is. we are surrounded by ads that feature slim *read annorexic* women...not just women though. the men in some ads are slim as well.
i am a large woman and when i see the ads for lane bryant or other large women stores, i cringe. is this what i look like? i dont feel like that! i think it boils down to what messages we are brought up with...how we are raised...what we tell our kids...
oh hell, now im blathering.

I'm being honest. I've dated/been with women ranging from size 2 to size 22. BY far the most beautiful, sexy, sensual and passionate was the 22.

I dated one young lady for a few weeks that was physically drop dead gorgeous. She was the type that turned every head (male and female) when she walked in the room. I will admit that I was first attracted by her looks. As I got to know her I realized that she had very little personality, had the IQ of a bologna sandwich, and was basically a lazy gold bricker. The only thing pretty about her was the package she came in. The important parts of her weren't attractive at all. I left in less than three weeks time.

I have 4 daughters. I don't let them get caught up in the stuff that you are talking about. I teach them to be happy with themselves. I teach them that being smart is better than being popular. I teach them that they aren't perfect, and they don't have to be.

I am attracted to/love women for who they are, not their shape.

Vella, you're a beautiful woman in every way. Don't get caught up in all of the crap in the media.
 
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Wildcard Ky said:
I'm being honest. I've dated/been with women ranging from size 2 to size 22. BY far the most beautiful, sexy, sensual and passionate was the 22.

I dated one young lady for a few weeks that was physically drop dead gorgeous. She was the type that turned every head (male and female) when she walked in the room. I will admit that I was first attracted by her looks. As I got to know her I realized that she had very little personality, had the IQ of a bologna sandwich, and was basically a lazy gold bricker. The only thing pretty about her was the package she came in. The important parts of her weren't attractive at all. I left in less than three weeks time.

A man after my own heart.

Cat
 
cloudy said:
I do know you well enough. :)

We, as women, are inundated from the time we are old enough to get the message with the idea that we need to be "improved." Our breasts aren't big enough, perky enough, etc. Our hips are too big, our skin isn't flawless enough, ad nauseum. It's unfortunate, but it's true.

Because of those messages, it's hard for us to realize that most men appreciate us exactly the way we are.

I've told you before, and I'll say it again. If it wasn't for a certain Dragon, and a certain Red Head I would marry you in a minute. (Too bad we can't marry more than one person in the United States huh?)

Cat
 
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