Stephen Miller confirms Trump 'actively looking at' suspending key pillar of Constitution

[butters]

team trump's 'actively examining' suspending the habeas corpus writ of the Constitution—something done 4 times in history and under the auspices of 'an invasion.'

“Well, the Constitution is clear, and that, of course, is the supreme law of the land—that the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion,” Miller, the architect of Trump’s child and family separation policy during his first term, told reporters on Friday.

note that wording in bold... privilege as opposed to understood basic right and tenet.

“So I would say that’s an option we’re actively looking at,” Miller declared, before attacking the judicial branch.

“Look, a lot of it depends on whether the courts do the right thing or not.”

and this ^^ Shades of pence and a not indirect threat to judges who would rule against trump. Not doing 'the right thing' places those same judges/juries/witnesses in the crosshairs of the rabid. Miller is perfectly well aware of this; he chose his words accordingly.

Habeas corpus is a cornerstone of Western democracies, with roots tracing back to the Magna Carta of 1215, which first established the principle that no person could be imprisoned arbitrarily by the king.

Miller, who has no law degree and is not an attorney, went on to give reporters his understanding of constitutional law.

“So,” Miller concluded, “it’s not just the courts aren’t just at war with the executive branch, the courts are at war with these radical judges, with the legislative branch as well, too,” he opined.

Now it seems to me that this is exactly the kind of wording to create greater unity amongst judges rather than divide them. The courts, especially the Supreme Court, will not take kindly to such overt displays of threats to the co-equal legislative third of the gov't.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...p&cvid=0b1c3bdcb43d4cb693607e1fcde47c4a&ei=33

 

[butters]

They will push, and push, and keep advancing their trump-agenda until those they are pushing push back. We've already seen examples of this with trump's persecution of law firms he's targeting.

 

[Baztrachian]

Suspending habeas corpus during a war or invasion has been done before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_(1863)

And with some ~20 million illegals in the US over the past five years it's clear that they won't be sent back whence they came if the idiot courts want to drag out each deportation for years and years.

 

[butters]

it's only an 'invasion' if you're non-white or a white person who stands against trump's ideals

Trump shut out refugees but is making White South Africans an exception

Months after the Trump administration ground U.S. refugee admissions to a halt, suspending a program that lets in thousands of people fleeing war or political persecution, it is preparing to restart that effort — but only for one group: White South Africans.

Plans are underway to fly approximately 60 Afrikaners to Dulles International Airport on a State Department-chartered plane Monday, with federal and Virginia officials preparing to receive them in a ceremonial news conference, according to documents and emails obtained by The Washington Post, as well as three government officials familiar with the preparations.

 

[butters]

Suspending habeas corpus during a war or invasion has been done before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_(1863)

And with some ~20 million illegals in the US over the past five years it's clear that they won't be sent back whence they came if the idiot courts want to drag out each deportation for years and years.

as I pointed out: 4 times in history

refugees are not 'an invasion'

you are kind of ridiculous; I have a (troll) bridge to sell you

*and on ignore it goes*

 

[ll74]

Suspending habeas corpus during a war or invasion has been done before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_Corpus_Suspension_Act_(1863)

And with some ~20 million illegals in the US over the past five years it's clear that they won't be sent back whence they came if the idiot courts want to drag out each deportation for years and years.

You may want to look a little closer at WHEN it was suspended and WHY.

We aren't at war.
We aren't being invaded.

The emergency is a farce and Congress should end it.

 

[Lazaran]

team trump's 'actively examining' suspending the habeas corpus writ of the Constitution—something done 4 times in history and under the auspices of 'an invasion.'


note that wording in bold... privilege as opposed to understood basic right and tenet.



and this ^^ Shades of pence and a not indirect threat to judges who would rule against trump. Not doing 'the right thing' places those same judges/juries/witnesses in the crosshairs of the rabid. Miller is perfectly well aware of this; he chose his words accordingly.




Now it seems to me that this is exactly the kind of wording to create greater unity amongst judges rather than divide them. The courts, especially the Supreme Court, will not take kindly to such overt displays of threats to the co-equal legislative third of the gov't.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/othe...p&cvid=0b1c3bdcb43d4cb693607e1fcde47c4a&ei=33

It was always about suspending due process (and the constitution) for DonOld and the racist, fascist MAGAts.



And THAT ^ is what decent, intelligent individuals (non-MAGAts) WERE warning about and ARE fighting against.

It is NOT about “Kilmar Abrego Garcia” per se, as DonOld & the MAGAts would like to pretend (gaslight). It really IS about whether due process, the rule of law, the constitution, and the coequal branches of government’s checks & balances (basically, the American “idea”) will continue to exist moving forward.



We. Told. Them. So.

 

[DeluxAuto]

You may want to look a little closer at WHEN it was suspended and WHY.

We aren't at war.
We aren't being invaded.

The emergency is a farce and Congress should end it.

I was wondering who the first MAGAT would be to try to defend this stupid shit.

 

[Politruk]

Suspending habeas corpus during a war or invasion has been done before.

Immigration is not invasion.

Type that 100 times before you post another word on the subject.

 

[Politruk]

And with some ~20 million illegals in the US over the past five years it's clear that they won't be sent back whence they came if the idiot courts want to drag out each deportation for years and years.

It is only 11 million, most of them have been here a lot longer than five years, and we would in no way be better off without them.

Most of them entered the country legally and overstayed their visas -- it is not a border-control problem.

 

[Lazaran]

I was wondering who the first MAGAT would be to try to defend this stupid shit.

Not only did the MAGAT “defend this stupid shit” but that POS compounded the stupidity;

And with some ~20 million illegals in the US over the past five years

That ^ is what decent, intelligent individuals (non-MAGAts) have to deal with.





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Meh. Miller said they’re actively looking into it. Also said he thinks it’s constitutional, and that it depends on the courts. He’s right. Left wing Alternet obviously has its opinion but they don’t get to adjudicate legal disputes. It’s up to the courts, possibly the Supreme Court

 

[ll74]

I was wondering who the first MAGAT would be to try to defend this stupid shit.

He has the most Trumpcoin of anyone here

 

[Rebel5soul]

Meh. Miller said they’re actively looking into it. Also said he thinks it’s constitutional, and that it depends on the courts. He’s right. Left wing Alternet obviously has its opinion but they don’t get to adjudicate legal disputes. It’s up to the courts, possibly the Supreme Court

It was only a matter of time before they started looking in to the possibility. As Lincoln famously uttered when he suspended Habeas Corpus, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."

 

[Politruk]

Meh. Miller said they’re actively looking into it. Also said he thinks it’s constitutional, and that it depends on the courts. He’s right. Left wing Alternet obviously has its opinion but they don’t get to adjudicate legal disputes. It’s up to the courts, possibly the Supreme Court

Diana Ross' singing group were better constitutional jurists than this lot.

 

[Politruk]

It was only a matter of time before they started looking in to the possibility. As Lincoln famously uttered when he suspended Habeas Corpus, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."

Lincoln had an actual problem to deal with. That is not the case now.

 

[ll74]

And still, no one is blocking the President from deporting migrants.

 

[PintlerMan]

I always liked Steve Millers music, all "Fly like and Eagle".. You know the great Les Paul of the guitar called the Les Paul, he taught Steve Miller how to play guitar. He's a Joker do't ya know.

 

[eric_erosfan]

And still, no one is blocking the President from deporting migrants.

https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...be-freed-from-ice-detention-returned-to-mass/

 

[ll74]

https://www.boston.com/news/local-n...be-freed-from-ice-detention-returned-to-mass/

Yep....courts are stopping the President from violating the Constitution,as it should

 

[Politruk]

It is worth noting that "suspending" is another word for "hanging."

 

[DeluxAuto]

Yep....courts are stopping the President from violating the Constitution,as it should

Does it matter? Fuck, I hate that even crossed my mind.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

Diana Ross' singing group were better constitutional jurists than this lot.

Yes. Listening to Diana Ross and the Supremes is a better use of your time than Alternet.

 

[BabyBoomer50s]

And still, no one is blocking the President from deporting migrants.

Because the law is on the president’s side.

 

[DeluxAuto]

Because the law is on the president’s side.

Which law exactly?