State employees will need to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19

[BoyNextDoor]

About 42,000 state employees will need to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have secured a medical or religious exemption by Oct. 17, or face the risk of consequences including losing their jobs, under an executive order Gov. Charlie Baker signed Thursday.

What on earth would a "religious exemption" be for a vaccine? Ghosts don't believe in science?

 

[Dribble]

About 42,000 state employees will need to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have secured a medical or religious exemption by Oct. 17, or face the risk of consequences including losing their jobs, under an executive order Gov. Charlie Baker signed Thursday.

What on earth would a "religious exemption" be for a vaccine? Ghosts don't believe in science?

It is God's will if I die...taking a vaccination that might prevent that is against God's will? Something about contamination of God's vessel?

 

[JohnnySavage]

Civil Rights Act. Its been around for a long time now and probably on the Google.

 

[Dribble]

Civil Rights Act. Its been around for a long time now and probably on the Google.

The one the Supreme Court has decimated? So...it only applies if Republicans agree with it? That one?

 

[JohnnySavage]

That's the legal authority for the religious exemption. A question was asked, and I answered. That's all.

 

[Dribble]

That's the legal authority for the religious exemption. A question was asked, and I answered. That's all.

Actually you didn't answer. But that is ok. I don't have the answer either. But I did provide two possibilities. What reason would constitute a religious exemption for not getting a vaccination? Is there text in the Bible that says "vaccinations are bad". If a person has a polio vaccination...can they use a religious exemption for the covid vaccine? Or is it an all or nothing? See...these questions matter because people will be getting fired and losing their benefits. It must stand up in Court.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

Exactly. So I get the " a sincerely held religious belief is a belief that can be either theistic, or a moral and/or ethical belief as to what is right and wrong," in getting an exemption.

But what is the sincerely held moral and/or ethical belief one would hold that would lead to asking or an exemption?

 

[YDB95]

About 42,000 state employees will need to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 or have secured a medical or religious exemption by Oct. 17, or face the risk of consequences including losing their jobs, under an executive order Gov. Charlie Baker signed Thursday.

What on earth would a "religious exemption" be for a vaccine? Ghosts don't believe in science?

Christian Scientists and, I think, Jehovah's Witnesses don't allow at least some types of medical services. The scourge of every elementary school class where there's that one kid who always comes to school even if s/he's sick as a dog, and the next week all the other kids have caught it as well.

 

[Lazaran]

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Religion has been responsible for so much pain, suffering, and death throughout history, what's a little more from religious anti-vaxx zealots.

Just another reason to turn away from religion for the more enlightened youth in America.

*nods*

 

[CornusKousa]

The one the Supreme Court has decimated? So...it only applies if Republicans agree with it? That one?

They haven't decimated it and just because you hate it doesn't mean it only applies to republicans.

Stay mad about civil rights and liberties existing, it lets us know just how truly un-American you really are.

Actually you didn't answer. But that is ok.

Actually, he did.

Your being upset about the answer doesn't change that.

I don't have the answer either. But I did provide two possibilities. What reason would constitute a religious exemption for not getting a vaccination? Is there text in the Bible that says "vaccinations are bad". If a person has a polio vaccination...can they use a religious exemption for the covid vaccine? Or is it an all or nothing?

Saying you have deeply held religious beliefs that prevent you from getting it. The end.

If you have a problem with freedom of religion get rid of the 1st amendment, good luck with that.

See...these questions matter because people will be getting fired and losing their benefits. It must stand up in Court.

Outside of maybe some activist judges ready to be famous for throwing out all precedent and the 1st amendment...... you and yours are pretty much guaranteed to lose most of the "we're going to force everyone to get vaccinated" and your little gestapo inspired "Show us your passport/papers" court battles.

 

[Champakian]

That's the legal authority for the religious exemption. A question was asked, and I answered. That's all.

You failed to answer in united lockstep chorus.

They simply do not respect that.

Independent thought?

Bad for the hive...

 

[RobDownSouth]

Christian Scientists and, I think, Jehovah's Witnesses don't allow at least some types of medical services. The scourge of every elementary school class where there's that one kid who always comes to school even if s/he's sick as a dog, and the next week all the other kids have caught it as well.

Somewhat interesting position by Christian Scientists. Their public website indicates that they have NO official position on vaccinations one way or the other, that each Christian Science family was free (spiritually) to make decisions as to whether to vaccinate or not.

I recalled that appeared to be the opposite of what they used to claim about MMR vaccines (measles, mumps, rubella) so I looked that up too. Congress had the Christian Scientists testify under oath about that....and back in the day, Christian Scientists opposed vaccinations once herd immunity (or "heard immunity" in que-speak) was achieved in the name of "religious accommodation".

"Religious accommodation" is quite a different concept from "religious exemption", btw.

So far, we've seen both the Catholic Church and the Christian Science religions go on record as saying "followers can't use church dogma as an excuse to avoid vaccinations".

I wonder what the official Southern Baptist position is? Something akin to "spare the vaccine, spoil the child"?

I think that anyone who declines to be vaccinated should be forced to watch someone breathe on a ventilator for 10 minutes, and carry a selfie of themselves with the ventilator patient as proof.....I suspect vaccinations would skyrocket once people saw the consequences of their inactions up close.

 

[Adre]

This is the kind of stupid that’s hard to believe. Oh wait, bleach.


“Mississippi health officials are pleading with state residents not to take a livestock drug to treat COVID-19 as calls to poison control centers soar.

Fearful Mississipians skeptical of the safety of vaccinations are shockingly turning instead to swallowing ivermectin — generally used to eradicate or prevent parasites in livestock.”

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

Religious exemptions aren't easy to get and good luck finding a religion against vaccines.

 

[RobDownSouth]

This is the kind of stupid that’s hard to believe. Oh wait, bleach.


“Mississippi health officials are pleading with state residents not to take a livestock drug to treat COVID-19 as calls to poison control centers soar.

Fearful Mississipians skeptical of the safety of vaccinations are shockingly turning instead to swallowing ivermectin — generally used to eradicate or prevent parasites in livestock.”

Ivermectin is a dewormer. While not useful for treating viral infections, I can see it being useful for treating ringworm and tapeworm where intestinal worms are commonplace (i.e. rural communities where roadkill is a prime source of protein).

 

[Dribble]

Ivermectin is a dewormer. While not useful for treating viral infections, I can see it being useful for treating ringworm and tapeworm where intestinal worms are commonplace (i.e. rural communities where roadkill is a prime source of protein).

Ringworm is a fungus. Double check that...i don't have time. It does work on roundworms and hookworms

 

[CornusKousa]

Ivermectin is a dewormer. While not useful for treating viral infections, I can see it being useful for treating ringworm and tapeworm where intestinal worms are commonplace (i.e. rural communities where roadkill is a prime source of protein).

Really?

Ring worm is a fungal infection and has nothing to do with intestinal worms.

Edit: I realize Dribb beat me to it but I'm leaving it up anyhow.

 

[Bud_Spencer]

It is God's will if I die...taking a vaccination that might prevent that is against God's will? Something about contamination of God's vessel?

IIRC, Christian Scientists don't get vaccines, nor do, I think, Jehova's Witnesses.

 

[SgtSpiderMan]

IIRC, Christian Scientists don't get vaccines, nor do, I think, Jehova's Witnesses.

Jehovah's Witnesses have taken vaccines since 1952. Christian Scientists may also take vaccines.

"On the other hand, our practice isn’t a dogmatic thing. Church members are free to make their own choices on all life-decisions, in obedience to the law, including whether or not to vaccinate their children. These aren’t decisions imposed by their church."

https://www.christianscience.com/pr...-perspective-on-vaccination-and-public-health

 

[jaF0]

https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court
A 1905 Supreme Court ruling backing a city-issued fine for refusing the smallpox vaccination provided a powerful and controversial precedent for the flexing of government authority.

 

[jaF0]

Justice Barrett denies request for SCOTUS intervention in Indiana University vaccine mandate case
KEYT|9 days ago
By Ariane de Vogue, CNN Supreme Court Reporter Justice Amy Coney Barrett declined a request to block Indiana University's vaccine mandate, signaling that ...

https://keyt.com/politics/cnn-us-po...n-in-indiana-university-vaccine-mandate-case/

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

https://www.history.com/news/smallpox-vaccine-supreme-court
A 1905 Supreme Court ruling backing a city-issued fine for refusing the smallpox vaccination provided a powerful and controversial precedent for the flexing of government authority.

I have a smallpox vaccine scar. We are a dying breed.

 

[butters]

This is the kind of stupid that’s hard to believe. Oh wait, bleach.


“Mississippi health officials are pleading with state residents not to take a livestock drug to treat COVID-19 as calls to poison control centers soar.

Fearful Mississipians skeptical of the safety of vaccinations are shockingly turning instead to swallowing ivermectin — generally used to eradicate or prevent parasites in livestock.”

Ivermectin is a dewormer. While not useful for treating viral infections, I can see it being useful for treating ringworm and tapeworm where intestinal worms are commonplace (i.e. rural communities where roadkill is a prime source of protein).

posted about this the other day. the concentrations in the animal pastes/dips/drenches are potentially seriously dangerous to humans and should never be used by them, let alone using them instead of a hugely successful, incredibly safe vaccine developed for the disease. the stupid is... well, stupid.

similarly, de santis encouraging mono treatments (at $1,500 a pop) to mitigate the effects of covid is mind-numbing when you can get the vaccine shots FOR FREE and which will do a far better job, the mono treatment having a very short window between exposure and symptoms for efficacy.

 

[jaF0]

similarly, de santis encouraging mono treatments (at $1,500 a pop) to mitigate the effects of covid is mind-numbing when you can get the vaccine shots FOR FREE and which will do a far better job, ....

Ya'wanna know why?

He's tied in with the company. Something about his campaign connections.

 

[butters]

Ya'wanna know why?

He's tied in with the company. Something about his campaign connections.

went and looked. not surprising, grifters gonna grift

As DeSantis ramps up his reelection bid, the largest donation to his political committee this cycle is a $5 million contribution from Kenneth Griffin, the CEO of hedge fund Citadel, which owns $15.9 million shares in Regeneron, according to a regulatory report filed with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission this week.

https://www.heraldtribune.com/story...body-treatment-connected-to-donor/8169958002/