SRP Posts to Views Ratio

[Hard_Rom]

Can posts to views ratios be used as a measure of quality or at least popularity?

1:10 Adequate/Some what popular

1:20 Very good/Popular

1:30 Excellent/Very popular

Can poorly written be popular?

Can good writing skills carry a story that has limited popular appeal?

Does it matter? Do we write for our co-writers, Lit readers or both? What would be most important?

 

[marauder13]

Can posts to views ratios be used as a measure of quality or at least popularity?

1:10 Adequate/Some what popular

1:20 Very good/Popular

1:30 Excellent/Very popular

Can poorly written be popular?

Can good writing skills carry a story that has limited popular appeal?

Does it matter? Do we write for our co-writers, Lit readers or both? What would be most important?

It's a good question, and a hard one to answer.

If the thread has a rapid turn around of responses, then the ratio will be low as there is not a lot of time for people to read a post before another is added. Also, group games tend to get a high read/post ratio because everyone in the game is reading the replies, mainly to see if they are to reply, but also to follow the game as a whole. So, the significance of the ratio is dependent on a number of factors which can render it meaningless for some threads.

Now, I do have some long term threads that are in the 30+:1 ratio, and one at one stage surpassed 40:1. But, to me that is a sign of curiosity more than anything else, because those threads are a couple of years old and still active, so people would probably have a look to see why its been going so long.

At one stage, I was nearly obsessed with the ratio when it came to my stories. Now, I don't care at all. I write mainly for the pleasure of my cowriter(s) and myself, and if there are others out there that enjoy what I am writing, then that makes me a little happier. Though, like most people, it warms my heart when I find out that someone is reading what I write and they like it.


So, the ratio can be taken with a grain of salt as far as I am concerned. I also write for my own enjoyment, and that of the other writer(s). If it brings some enjoyment to others, then all the better. If I was interested in the readers pleasure first, then I would write solo pieces for the other section of Literotica.


I hope the ramble helped to shed some light on things.

 

[Veroe]

I'm always interested in the number of views my threads have especially for newer ones. So if by the fourth or fifth post me and my partner have garnered a relatively high number of views just starting out our plot: I know we are onto something that not only excites us (the primary concern), but also sparks with any readers we may get.

But to answer your question: no, thread views don't have any real correlation on a thread's quality because the term: Quality is so subjective. A lot of people are looking for something quick and hot and consistent while others really like longer, slower, more detailed posts...both types have value it only depends on whose reading them.

 

[monique_minx]

Actually i'll point out right now that Offline has held steady 1:41. But i know we have several subscribers and the view is automatically added when they're alerted to the post.

Steady ratios take time though, you're really dependent on subscribers rather than drop by readers. These people want to follow the story through.

I also used to watch the ratio but i write here for me although i love sharing my stories and getting feedback on my writing. I roleplay because i love the interaction and surprise that comes with a good story and co writer.

 

[monique_minx]

You also get a view if someone clicks it by mistake or discovers they don't want to read it so i prefer to go by feedback and word of mouth rather than views when choosing what i want to read.

 

[CarnivalBarker]

To answer one of your questions, yes....MANY very poorly written threads can (and are) popular, for reasons passing understanding. If you can't write, then I don't enjoy writing with you, and if you can't write, then I will not bother reading, and often block your posts. Everyone should, because bad writing is like an ice pick to the brain, and too many people here are guilty of, and even indulge in it. Sad.

/soapbox

 

[monique_minx]

To answer one of your questions, yes....MANY very poorly written threads can (and are) popular, for reasons passing understanding. If you can't write, then I don't enjoy writing with you, and if you can't write, then I will not bother reading, and often block your posts. Everyone should, because bad writing is like an ice pick to the brain, and too many people here are guilty of, and even indulge in it. Sad.

/soapbox

This!
Fluff threads that have two sentences to a post often end up popular for instant gratification. I can't stand them and get no enjoyment out of them. I mean there's no description and barely a character profile. I don't understand the enjoyment honestly. I would rather read the bitching long ass posts Marauder and i work up and be so turned on by the end that i go rape my own Dominant lol!
(I am sure he wouldn't hate it but i would probably get in shit afterwards...still worth it!)

 

[Veroe]

As I said a lot of people who write here are just looking for something hot and quick. They're not looking to be another Hemmingway or Tolstoy of the SRP forum. I won't judge them for getting exactly what they came to Lit for.

I think the frequency of posts plays a hand in thread views too. More time on the first page garners more subscribers which garners more views.

 

[Hard_Rom]

I think you can have good quality shorter posts. A lively give and take between two characters should be short. Even to resembling a dialogue. Look how a book is written. Two characters actually talking contains 3 lines each. Scene description and emotive stuff has it's place. A good hard porn fuck with rapid position changes and dirty talking is hard to stretch out to far. Love making yes. And again dialogue. Read 3 paragraphs just to get a simple Yes answer to a question.

Probably mixing it up is best. Short for dialogue and action and longer for scene settings and emotive drama.

 

[Veroe]

I think you can have good quality shorter posts. A lively give and take between two characters should be short. Even to resembling a dialogue. Look how a book is written. Two characters actually talking contains 3 lines each. Scene description and emotive stuff has it's place. A good hard porn fuck with rapid position changes and dirty talking is hard to stretch out to far. Love making yes. And again dialogue. Read 3 paragraphs just to get a simple Yes answer to a question.

Probably mixing it up is best. Short for dialogue and action and longer for scene settings and emotive drama.

But the kind of writing an SRP is subtly different than in other medium. In other medium like novels and especially screenplays you look to reveal as much of the plot and character development through dialogue as you can. However in SRPs since its all practically spontaneous and you can only control your character's responses you have to rely upon internal monologue and straight out exposition to reveal plot and character development.

Something like dialogue is usually restating your character's position or shots in the dark you're hoping your partner can do something brilliant in response to.

 

[monique_minx]

Unless you do collaboration posts (i have done quite a few) then yeah, it's all setting and internal monològue. I know my strengths and setting is probably not one of them. I prefer interaction and self reflection, at least currently.
But there's a difference between a two sentence post and a three paragraph post. That amounts to effort and input.
I have shorter posts where they're warranted of course and i have some bullshit long ones cause my character has been by herself for 24 hours at a time *sideways glare at Marauder*
It really depends on where you're at and knowing your co writer and their preferences too. Which is why i tell people 50-100 word posts? No thank you.

 

[Veroe]

Good points to add about the collaborative posts and the need to respond in a length that matches your partner's style, Minx.

 

[CarnivalBarker]

I submit to you all the masterpiece that is "Downfall of a Reporter," by myself and Evolutions. Long posts, lots of character development, a genuine damn plot (as yet in progress), various side stories, and photographs that assist the story. It is the Dickens novel of SRP. It is The Wire of SRP. Won't lie, I read it over and over and cum every time, even if it is half my creation.

http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=1051135

 

[CarnivalBarker]

It also has a 1:78 post to view ratio.

 

[Britwitch]

As usual, I'm a little late to this...

I write because I love it and I write the best I can in order to match and compliment my co-writers. I know there are people either reading along with some of them or those that peek in now and then and if they enjoy what they find, fantastic!

I honestly don't know any ratios for my threads, and given how long running some of them are I don't know how that would impact on any statistics you could draw from them anyway. Numbers are just numbers for me. I'm more interested in the words.

 

[monique_minx]

I think there is something to be said about sexual preferences too. I don't get into anything vanilla really, very few vanilla threads turn my head.
That said, I also have my own ideas about BDSM which i am heavily into. Thus, I won't continue reading if I find it conflicts strongly to the point of off putting. (50 shades comes to mind!).
I'm also into non consent and reluctance and those are largely non existant here. If anyone knows of a decent thread, point me that way lol!
Quality of writing is important to me, if you can put it in three paragraphs but it grabs me, kudos! But mispelt, two line posts are off putting.
Plus there are billions of unknown threads out there that are fabulous! Some finished ones. But they're incredibly difficult to find unless someone is willing to link you or point you in the right direction. Some of the 'popular' ones are just posted to frequently and make it to the top of the board more often so they're going to garner more notice of course.

 

[Wild_Oats]

The ratio is meaningless. I used to keep tabs on my threads as a matter of interest, but then after an absence of a few months when i returned all my old threads were way way up. Now i KNOW that no one is reading these old buried dead threads, so the answer is bots and spiders.

 

[Fish_Tales]

As usual, I'm a little late to this...

I write because I love it and I write the best I can in order to match and compliment my co-writers. I know there are people either reading along with some of them or those that peek in now and then and if they enjoy what they find, fantastic!

I honestly don't know any ratios for my threads, and given how long running some of them are I don't know how that would impact on any statistics you could draw from them anyway. Numbers are just numbers for me. I'm more interested in the words.

This thread piqued my interest. I agree with Brit - one writes in an SRP to experience the twists and turns that another co-writer brings to the mix. That doesn't mean that it's not flattering that other people read along, but it's not the main aim (for me). I should say, was not the main aim, as I rarely write now *sighs*

Anyway, I did your ratio calc on the only thread I currently spasmodically post to (Vail Indigo's Intersect City) and it comes to 1:111. Does it make it any different to others? I don't think so.

Although I do know Minx wouldn't read it because it is so vanilla as to be bleached!

Write for you and your co-writer - you can't go wrong then.

Good luck.

 

[Veroe]

Can good writing skills carry a story that has limited popular appeal?

To answer this question: Yes and no.

I'll read anything written by certain writers because I know we have similar sexual preferences-LucianDevine and Sinfulwhispers are really good examples of that type. Then there are writers that I'll read not because we have particularly similar tastes but because I really enjoy their voice when they write-Minx, M13, and Vail are great examples of those.

I don't really like the term "good writing skills", although I understand your meaning there Rom.

I definitely believe that if you find a writer whose voice appeals to you it will buoy a slow-moving thread or one of a subject that doesn't specifically match your own tastes.

 

[Bevatoria]

I definitely believe that if you find a writer whose voice appeals to you it will buoy a slow-moving thread or one of a subject that doesn't specifically match your own tastes.

Concur with the gentleman's assessment. I enjoy certain writers rather then certain topics; admittedly something that comes with checking out threads in the first place.

Concerning your own threads, as several people have said already: If you and your cowriter are enjoying it, that's what really matters. If others like it, it's an ego boosting bonus.

 

[Veroe]

Concur with the gentleman's assessment. I enjoy certain writers rather then certain topics; admittedly something that comes with checking out threads in the first place.

Concerning your own threads, as several people have said already: If you and your cowriter are enjoying it, that's what really matters. If others like it, it's an ego boosting bonus.

It's a really nice ego boost though.

 

[GuyRP]

I'm new to this, so I will likely develop a different opinion as the novelty wears off.

I like the adulation. I certainly don't write for adulation, but I do like it. I was sent a complimentary pm about my second post in my only active thread. That was awesome! I like seeing the post count jump. I was at 76 or so last I looked for 5 posts. How many of those are my partner and I checking to see if the other responded? I don't know. Still, it feels pretty cool.

I also like the relatively instant response time. I'm used to writing solo, and only getting feedback once I've overcome the fear of criticism and asked someone to edit something for me. Since I'm here just to let off some steam that fear is gone. It is quite liberating. I didn't expect that, but I like it.

My partner hasn't gotten on yet today, so I'll probably work on one of my solo stories. I find it hard to concentrate on them as I'm always refreshing Literotica to see if she posted and get that instant rush that seems to be a mix of sexual pleasure and creative whimsy. Has anyone else noticed that?

 

[Veroe]

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[VampiricTouch]

I completely understand the vanity in hoping others might indulge in reading your writing. I personally am a vain one. However using views to post ratios can be potentially misleading. While I use it to judge if my work has garnered any interest, I'm also careful to not "refresh" the page constantly. Your own "views" of your own thread is hardly another live person reading your work. And while I do have my vanity, I also have my pride that says I won't fool myself into thinking my work has someone reading unless that's actually true.

I keep all of my work subscribed so that I get notifications that the cowriter has responded. I also keep a separate copy of the entire thread in a google docs (with my own edits) in case I felt like re-reading the thread. It means that when I write a response to the thread it's based off of reading the copy in google docs, and only after I have a post written, do I open the thread up and post to it. This also saves me the heart ache of trying to type in a reply box and some unfortunate act of god like a power outage wipes out the hard work I wrote.

 

[zydrate]

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