squirting...

[SlaveMasterUK]

Can anyone help me with some realistic information on this little-documented and fascinating variation of the female orgasm (or femicum, as my buddy called it last night PSML)?

Some sources have said that some women squirt all the time, and others almost never. Other sources say that stimulation with a vibrator can make any woman squirt. [BARESOUL] I have only had one RL experience with squirting, and this involved a vibrator. She said it had never happened before. [/BARESOUL]

My next big project is on hold while I write a short erotic horror (after chicklet's reply to my post ;-) but when I get back into it, I want to be able to go straight back to those squirting scenes and make them perfect. Essentially my squirting character has never squirted until she becomes a slave to some bizzare masters and is introduced to a wonderful new non-removable sex toy, to which she does not have the controls...

I guess I just want to make sure everything I describe regarding the female ejaculation is possible, feasible, believable.

ax

 

[TheEarl]

There are women who can squirt all the time and some who can never squirt. Most women can, but most will find it very difficult.

The trick to doing it (or so my sources tell me <ahem>) is to press on the G-spot, either with the time-honoured two fingered beckoning, or with your thumb. Then when the lady in question is close to cumming, she'll feel like she has to pee. If she lets loose, then she might squirt (Nb. the liquid won't be pee. Don't worry).

The synopsis of your story sounds fascinating. Do let me know when you're done.

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

The trick to doing it (or so my sources tell me <ahem>) is to press on the G-spot, either with the time-honoured two fingered beckoning, or with your thumb. Then when the lady in question is close to cumming, she'll feel like she has to pee. If she lets loose, then she might squirt (Nb. the liquid won't be pee. Don't worry).

this is pretty much as I understand it so far. Most of what I've read has come from porn sites, and I always question the validity of the text underneath the pictures / movies ;-)

the 'having to pee' bit is familiar too. if I recall she spent the rest of the night sulking 'cos she was convinced she'd wet the bed...

ax

 

[openthighs_sarah]

(Nb. the liquid won't be pee. Don't worry).

Oh yes it will. I'd worry if I were you.

 

[TheEarl]

Don't scare him Sarah.

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

Oh yes it will. I'd worry if I were you.

do i look concerned?

 

[john_mcleod]

SlaveMasterUK,

I thought i'd tell of my first hand experience - i've been with (and am still with) a girl who can ejaculate

first off i should point out that sexually she's a very lucky girl - some girls struggle to reach orgasm i beleive, some can but become desenstised after a couple - other girls don't - and in comparison to others i find she has no trouble what so ever.

it isn't testament to my amazing talents, unfortunatly , i don't know how quite to put it in words, but basically she is very easily manipulated/brought to orgasm

i beleive this helps

so onto female ejaculation, well from my first hand experience this is how it worked for her (i reckon every girl would be different, another story to tell, all i can say is what works for us)

to make her ejaculate she needs some strong stimulation directly on her gspot. i find that rubbing my fingers backwards and forwards quickly is the most effective way.

typically she's already arroused when this happens - and so it doesn't take THAT much to bring her to an orgasm (no foreplay nessesary, ect)

the feeling is always intense becuase it's a sensetive spot anyway, but after just of minute or so, she starts to feel the 'need to pee' sensation.

now i've done a little research becuase i'm more then curious about this myself, i beleive biologically this is supposed to be a gland (the name of which evades me at this moment) connected to the urethra filling with the ejaculatary fluids. the gland is near the gspot, and thus gspot stimulation makes it fill with fluids...

she tells me it feels EXACTLY the same as needing the toilet...

now when she has this feeling and then reaches orgasm, that shesimply loses control over the flow - she ejaculates, no choice in the matter.

i've read (and seen in a video or too) the ejaculation being quite literally squirted out, some times in one go, sometimes bit by bit over a suprising long time.

this has not been my experience though - with my gf it ran out, not squirted, very similar to peeing - a constant trickle. it's about the rate of say weakly peeing. i'm told it feels great...like one big orgasm all the way through - very intense. it varies in how powerful it is, and can lasts for anything from say 10 seconds to over a minute

i think the legnth of ejaculation is relative to how much fluid has built up as much as anything, if you spend 20 minutes before teasing and stopping just before orgasm, you build a lot and it's a quite stunning orgasm. if she comes as soon as possible it's weaker, and isn't as long

colour and taste wise it's clear and tasteless, and fairly warm. i would say it feels ever so slightly thicker then water but thats about the only noticible difference.

ejaculation only happens with gspot stimulation, so far atleast. it doesn't happen with any other type of orgasm so far only through using my fingers, or a couple of times a vibrator pressed up against the gspot (as in not through penetration...i beleive in the doggy style it's possible to hit the gspot, but we've had no luck that way)

now here comes the atypical bit. unfortunatly it's not all that simple

not always is her ejaculate tastless and clear. some times it actually IS pee.

this has only happened a couple of times (but being on the receiving end, as in down the hatch, i can assure you it wasn't tasteless cum :| )

she tells me it feels no different to normal ejaculation, it works (is triggered) the exact same way, with both the 'need to pee' feeling, and the actual ejaculation producing the same sensations

now obviously this is something quite intriguing, and the reason i happen to be able to rant this long about it is becuase for obvious reason i did some research myself, to try and figure out why this happens

from what i've read (and now obviously this isn't first hand experience, so i can't guarentee it's credability) is that sometimes the female ejaculation somehow has been known to trigger actual urination.

basically letting go of the ejaculatary fluids starts the flow....but control over the bladder is lost and actual pee is let go too

i don't beleive this is typical (but hearing how much the experiences vary i don't think there is a typical one) also the explanation i give is the most logical i can work out, i can't guarentee you that it's correct (and if anyone else knows any better i'd be more the glad for a definative explanation)

but i hope my first hand example has helped you a little...

if there any details i've left out that you're interested in i'd help if i can

good luck with the story

john

(p.s. one of the two stories i have pending actually includes female ejaculation... just for your info)

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

thank you very much John, that was extremely helpful...

The bit about teasing actually fits beautifully into the story since... Well, I won't give too much away, but there's a lot of teasing and orgasm denial involved (this seems to be my speciality).

Ax

 

[john_mcleod]

are you copying my story?



only joking of course, but it is - well atleast the idea is - along the same lines as the one i have pending

i will be very interested to see what you come up with - no doubt we'll approach it from vastly different perspectives

John

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

I quite often find stories here that have a striking similarity to mine, or something I planned to start. But it doesn't scare me - erotica is one of the few genres where you can get away with writing the same story again and still make it interesting.

if your story involves teasing & denial then get it posted - I have yet to read a bad denial story on Lit, but there aren't enough of them for my liking (either that or I'm using the wrong search keys).

ax

 

[dr_mabeuse]

From what I can tell, legitimate sexologists are still debating fhe whole question of female ejaculation and the nature of the ejaculate. (Of course, they're still debating the existence and significance of the G-spot too.)

I just thought that, for what it's worth, I'd point out that the idea of an ejaculate originating in the interior of the vagina makes anti-sense as far as evolution is concerned, because it would act as a natural douche and decrease the chances of fertilization. So whatever's going on, it must be happening in the external parts of the female genitals.

---dr.M.

 

[john_mcleod]

---dr.M.,

it comes from the urethra (pee hole) which is located up by the clit, and not the vaginal hole - so it wouldn't act as a douche as you suggest

and i agree, looking from a biological point of view i can't think of an obvious reason why it happens...infact it seems completely pointless (but then so does the clit...)

all i know is it does, because i've seen it, repeatedly,

John

 

[TheEarl]

I like to see it as an argument for the existence of God. It serves no useful evolutionary purpose, yet it's there. It's far too complicated to have arrived by chance therefore it's guided.

God created orgasms. God created squirting. God bless his little cotton socks.

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

God created orgasms. God created squirting. God bless his little cotton socks.

Earl, you have just succeeded in making me laugh out uncontrollably. for a miserable bastard like me, that's quite impressive. God bless the Earl. And squirting. Obviously.

Back on topic tho (or sort of, depending how you look at it) there are lots of 'unnecessary' things on each sex that don't make sense, but they're there for the basic reason that it's simpler to start with one basic template for life than two.

Men have nipples that serve no purpose. But women do have useful nipples, and a whole array of fascinating and wonderful mechanics behind them that make them useful. This is evidence that the male body could in theory support female genitalia.

The clit is the evidence that the basic female body could support male genitalia, and indeed if the clit is there, why not the gland that produces fluids to ejaculate (note semen as opposed to 'sperm.' Now that would REALLY outmode us men ;-).

The only difference between male and female DNA is one chromosome. AFAIK this tiny little chromosome tells the pituitary gland (tiny thing in the brain) to produce testosterone or progesterone (I think. Or is it eastrogen?) and it is these hormones which determine our sex. So IN THEORY if we were to switch the hormone, we would begin to change sex. The basic DNA in each and every one of us, male and female, contains a pattern labeled PENIS AND TESTES and one labelled VAGINA, OVARIES AND UTERUS. Which means that the female only need produce one type of egg.

All this is going a little bit off-topic and far too complicated for this time of night (it's 20:55 in the UK!), but I haven't taken my painkillers yet and my brain is beginning to do strange things without their inhibiting effect. But it leads on to Iain M. Banks (who rarely stays out of one of my conversations for more than a few minutes) and his Culture series, in which humans have modified themselves to take conscious control of their glands. In short, Culture citizens can change sex at will, over a period of IIRC 8 months.

now who didn't find that fascinating?

Ax

 

[TheEarl]

God bless the Earl. And squirting.

Are the two connected? I should hope so .

I believe the female hormone is estrogen. Progesterone is a female hormone, but not the major pubescent one. Interesting thoughts, but due to the fact that my insomnia has robbed me of sleep for 36 hours, I get the feeling that I'm not getting it 100%.

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

another thought...

I was just brainstorming around the teasing idea and had another thought...

If any fluid gland is agitated/excited into producing excessive amounts of fluid and is then not allowed to vent anywhere, this will cause bruising and inflamation to the gland. I know this applies to things like tear ducts which can become blocked, and also to semen glands in the men.

This is why a lot of teasing stories regarding men often seem a little unrealistic - take a man close to orgasm and his body begins producing lots of semen. Deny him that orgasm and there is no motion to eject it, so it stays there. Begin arousing him again and he produces more, until the glands effectively become full. This is accompanied by a severe pain which is only relieved by ejaculation (and even then still exists as a dull background ache).

I know the pain part at least is true because I have experienced it first-hand and am not keen to revisit it. Somebody else here once posted a similar statement. I'm uncertain as to the mechanics of it but that's how it's been explained.

All this leads me to the assumption that if a woman's g-spot is teased for some time (in this instance we could be talking hours at a time) this could cause a similar build-up and associated pain, but since this whole squirting thing seems to be so poorly understood by the majority, perhaps that has not yet been tried by anybody who dares to read this.

I'll also assume that, in theory, a woman's ejaculatory gland can be 'milked' like the prostate gland. which opens a whole new avenue of possibilities...

ax

 

[reohoko]

hehehe I like this discussion too, and I am not shy

I learned how to squirt, an arguement with a friend of mine over whether or not I could gush, at age 30 I had heard of no such thing.

So, my poor tormented hubby (ROFL tormented=spoiled and spoiled=sucker), had to go through the learning experience with me. Yes, the G-spot is a HUGE helper, and no it is not a guarentee that gushing nor squirting will happen,and some women do not squirt they gush (the differnce between a fountain and a small explosion I must imagine having never actually seen the one and only time I accomplished a real gush); and some women do not gush they squirt and few women can do both with equal success. And there are women who seem unable to do either.

However, the learning experience, at least for me was it required a LOT of stimulation and clitoris and G-spot. First few tries I could accomplish it with the vibrator for my clit, a dildo (for the G-spot) and over an hours worth of extreme excitement without release. (fully requiring hubby's help, my arm fell asleep - LOL JOKING)After awhile if a woman is determined it can be controled MUCH easier LOL. That is another story.

BTW NO LAUGHING!!!
hehehe
HUGS HUGS HUGS
Reo

 

[crysede]

http://www.the-clitoris.com/f_html/ejacula.htm

 

[TheEarl]

Is a woman urinating or ejaculating? This is a question that cannot be answer outside a medical lab.

I wonder when they're going to get round to researching women's orgasms in a lab? And who's going to be the doctor?

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

I wonder when they're going to get round to researching women's orgasms in a lab? And who's going to be the doctor?

The Earl

That'll be in a future story of mine, I imagine...

Thanks to Crysede, that link was really useful for a scientific explanation. Once I'd waded through five or six paragraphs of look how your male oriented society has repressed female sexuality, I found a whole mine of information

ax

 

[TheEarl]

It was very feministic wasn't it? All that stuff about how men are to blame for more women not ejaculating.

The Earl

 

[SlaveMasterUK]

I thought it was directed specifically at me... I've got the blame for everything that's gone wrong within a 5 mile radius of me within the last 5 years.

honestly it was like the girl's uniform debate at school all over again...

ax

 

[gauchecritic]

Re: another thought...

Begin arousing him again and he produces more, until the glands effectively become full. This is accompanied by a severe pain which is only relieved by ejaculation (and even then still exists as a dull background ache).

I know the pain part at least is true because I have experienced it first-hand and am not keen to revisit it.

ax

A long time ago in biology class I was given to understand that 'unused' semen will be reabsorbed by the body. I'm not denying what is commonly called 'blueballs syndrome' which I have experienced only once (again a long long time ago), but is fairly common amongst teenagers apparently.

So, although not instant there is eventual relief from this phenomenon without ejaculation.

Gauche

 

[crysede]

Thanks to Crysede, that link was really useful for a scientific explanation. Once I'd waded through five or six paragraphs of look how your male oriented society has repressed female sexuality, I found a whole mine of information

ax

Yeah, and hypocritical thing brutishly oppressed me with its vile pinkness too

Wait a minute - that whole pink thing is your fault isn't it!

I knew a man had to be to blame somehow . . .

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Blue Balls

Despite the name, "blue balls" (aka "lover's nuts") is not caused by an excess of semen; it is caused by irritation of the epidydmus. My own personal research suggests that once the condition had become serious enough to cause real discomfort, ejaculation can be excruciatingly painful itself. In fact, at the establishment I used to squander my youth at during my formative years, a popular passtime was to tell the poor bozo with a case of blue balls to go into the men's room and slam the ham tp "relieve the pressure". Then we'd hang around outside the john and listen to him howl as he shot his wad.

The "overstuffed" gland theory is easily disproved by considering all those men who had had vasectomies. None of them are walking around with their balls in wheelbarrows as far as I know.

---dr.M.