squirting

[M's girl]

That is what I was always wondering about. I've seen women squirt (in porn movies) and although I want to believe it's not urine I was wondering where all this fluid could come from all at once if not from some kind of bladder... I mean.... men have balls (two of them!) and even they produce only a relatively small amount of cum at a time. (sorry guys... )

Now, I certainly don't know everything but I know about the anathomy of the female (and male for that matter). Nowhere, never have I seen or had someone explain about the 'sack' you are mentioning. If it was a common part of the human (female) body; wouldn't we have been told in Biology class, along with the rest of the information?

Again, I'm not saying it's urine (or it's not, for that matter); I just don't know since I don't squirt myself. Mr GGG said something about a gland... would that be the sack you are talking about? And if some women have them and others not, why are there no pictures of the vagina (you know, the drawn ones) with and without this gland or sack.

I'm curious to know...

Am I being sarcastic if I say it does not surprise me no one has answered my question?

 

[ApplesMcgee]

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[ApplesMcgee]

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[M's girl]

If you're worried about it being urine, make sure that the female urinates before your sexual encounter.

Also, the fluid that comes out has a slight different...what's the word...viscocity (sp?) than urine. What I'm saying is the "slippery-ness" is a tad different. Also, the ejaculatory fluid is usually either clear or a bit white-ish.

Thanks for your reply. No, I'm not worried. I don't squirt and I must say I don't think I would want to. It would depend on how much fluid I would "lose". I don't mind about the "mess" we make right now at all, but I would not want to have to clean up after us every time we had sex. I would also worry about sex in unusual places and quickies outside our home. Would not want to miss them ;-)

My question though was not if the fluid was urine or not. But from what I have seen the amounts that come out at one and the same time are way too much to not come from SOME SORT OF bladder. Like I said, if a man ejaculates it's not even 5% of what I see coming out of those women sometimes, and men have their balls for the production and storage, so to speak. If a woman is able to squirt as much as one cup or more of this fluid (whatever it is) to my opinion it can't be something that is being "transpired" out of the vaginal area. Do you know what I mean?

 

[QueenObeymee]

Thanks for your reply. No, I'm not worried. I don't squirt and I must say I don't think I would want to. It would depend on how much fluid I would "lose". I don't mind about the "mess" we make right now at all, but I would not want to have to clean up after us every time we had sex. I would also worry about sex in unusual places and quickies outside our home. Would not want to miss them ;-)

My question though was not if the fluid was urine or not. But from what I have seen the amounts that come out at one and the same time are way too much to not come from SOME SORT OF bladder. Like I said, if a man ejaculates it's not even 5% of what I see coming out of those women sometimes, and men have their balls for the production and storage, so to speak. If a woman is able to squirt as much as one cup or more of this fluid (whatever it is) to my opinion it can't be something that is being "transpired" out of the vaginal area. Do you know what I mean?

A possible answer to your question...

[quote="angel" eve]personally, depending on the day i can ejaculate a lot or a little (often relating to how much liquid i've put into my system - obviously on a hot day when i've sweat alot my body isn't going to be willing to give up alot of liquid in the form of cum no matter how good it feels.) i sometimes dribble, sometimes squirt with some force, sometimes i cum once as a dribble, and then the next few times i squirt... ussualy my orgasms build in intensity throughout a session.

i have cum both from stimulation from fingers, dildos, and best of all while fucking. i can also cause myself to cum - this was the way i originally learned to cum. i never believe that it was a possibility i could ejaculte. i just read it was possible and assumed i could learn to do it if i got to know my body well enough and relaxed. within 2 weeks i had learned to soak through a fairly thick full size bathtowel folded in 6 - a talent i've been asked to showcase a few times for various partners. their reaction is a combination of "how the hell!", and "can you teach me to do that/make my girlfriend do that/make you do that".

my girlfriend once ejaculated enough in the course of one session to fill 2 beer bottles plus at least another 1/2 we aren't entirely sure as a scientific measuing would wreak the mood and make it rather dificult to cum at all. i'm willing to suggest that i can ejqculate about the same amount. sometimes either of us may only ejaculate the equiv. of 1/2 a beer bottle. depends on our body, as well as the stimulation.[/quote]

 

[M's girl]

Thank you Queenobeyme... I came across this already and it was part of the reason I posted my question rather than it did answer it.

What I'm (still) wondering about is where this fluid is stored. Mr GGG spoke about some kind of gland. Now, I'm not a native english speaker but that sounds to me like a solid texture kind of thing. I can imagine how fluid could be "transpired" from that (I guess that works to a degree with me too as I get wet) but I can't understand how it could hold so much fluid that it would come out LOOKING like you are urinating (I'm referring to the amount and the way it comes out, NOT because I think it is urine!). This is not "transpiring" fluid anymore if you ask me. It looks like it would have to be stored in some kind of bladder before ejaculation.

Take a sponge for example. It can soak up a lot of fluid and release it again. But if that sponge were to be inside you (a woman) I don't see how you could ever release a firm beam of fluid.....

 

[monkeysee]

as far as I was aware, when a woman 'squirts' its actually just the vaginal muscles contracting and 'squeezing' out excess amounts of vaginal fluids that are in there. In the same way some women get wetter than others when aroused, some become so wet and have strong enough muscles that the liquid squirts out when they cum, like if you have water in your fist and then clench it real fast

 

[M's girl]

as far as I was aware, when a woman 'squirts' its actually just the vaginal muscles contracting and 'squeezing' out excess amounts of vaginal fluids that are in there. In the same way some women get wetter than others when aroused, some become so wet and have strong enough muscles that the liquid squirts out when they cum, like if you have water in your fist and then clench it real fast

Hmmmm.... don't know if you watch porn. Find a DVD (video or whatever) with Cyther(i)a in it. I know some women get wetter than others. This (Cyther(i)a) is beyond getting wet or wetter. Believe you me... ;-)

 

[therockap1]

if its all natural then she is a freak, but i think she probably has something that helps it, because ive seen one where she literally squirts from the bed to the top of the ceiling.

 

[M's girl]

if its all natural then she is a freak, but i think she probably has something that helps it, because ive seen one where she literally squirts from the bed to the top of the ceiling.

My thoughts exactly. On the other hand.... then there are a lot of freaks out there, haha. So thanks for your reply but it still hasn't answered my original question.... :-(


Hmmm, before anyone gets angry with me.... I did not mean to say that women who squirt are freaks. On the contrary ... but I do think squirting is one of the new fetishes of 'today' and so I do agree that it could be that in some porn movies they did a little something to help to proces, so to speak.

When I started watching porn there was no such thing as squirters and anal penetration or DP's were rarely seen. Now it's anal everywhere and all of a sudden there are all these women who squirt. Why is that? The porn industry has always been keen enough to make more money (which I'm sure squirters help to make) so where were all these squirters when I was younger? FYI... I'm 42 at the moment and am watching porn movies with my current BF for almost a year now. Did not watch it for several years before that and all of a sudden there is all this anal, DP and squirting stuff....

 

[therockap1]

My thoughts exactly. On the other hand.... then there are a lot of freaks out there, haha. So thanks for your reply but it still hasn't answered my original question.... :-(


Hmmm, before anyone gets angry with me.... I did not mean to say that women who squirt are freaks. On the contrary ... but I do think squirting is one of the new fetishes of 'today' and so I do agree that it could be that in some porn movies they did a little something to help to proces, so to speak.

When I started watching porn there was no such thing as squirters and anal penetration or DP's were rarely seen. Now it's anal everywhere and all of a sudden there are all these women who squirt. Why is that? The porn industry has always been keen enough to make more money (which I'm sure squirters help to make) so where were all these squirters when I was younger? FYI... I'm 42 at the moment and am watching porn movies with my current BF for almost a year now. Did not watch it for several years before that and all of a sudden there is all this anal, DP and squirting stuff....

What I meant was freak of nature if its natural because thats incredible. Not a freak freak

 

[M's girl]

What I meant was freak of nature if its natural because thats incredible. Not a freak freak

I know, I just wanted to make sure I was not misunderstood eighter!

 

[therockap1]

My thoughts exactly. On the other hand.... then there are a lot of freaks out there, haha. So thanks for your reply but it still hasn't answered my original question.... :-(


Hmmm, before anyone gets angry with me.... I did not mean to say that women who squirt are freaks. On the contrary ... but I do think squirting is one of the new fetishes of 'today' and so I do agree that it could be that in some porn movies they did a little something to help to proces, so to speak.

When I started watching porn there was no such thing as squirters and anal penetration or DP's were rarely seen. Now it's anal everywhere and all of a sudden there are all these women who squirt. Why is that? The porn industry has always been keen enough to make more money (which I'm sure squirters help to make) so where were all these squirters when I was younger? FYI... I'm 42 at the moment and am watching porn movies with my current BF for almost a year now. Did not watch it for several years before that and all of a sudden there is all this anal, DP and squirting stuff....

So what would you say has been your favorite type of porn so far?

 

[QueenObeymee]

What I'm (still) wondering about is where this fluid is stored. Mr GGG spoke about some kind of gland.

Ok, in Mr. G's post (the one he describes his TECHNIQUE) there is a post from romeonline, about whether or not what a woman squirts out is urine or not. romeonline did some research and came up with this......

I'm very sorry guys but female ejaculation is simply diluted urine. This debate is over! It's been clearly demonstrated by Gary Scubach.

Read:

I became interested in the controversy about the source and cause of female ejaculation during the course of my doctoral studies. My doctoral research project was an exploratory experiment designed to provide information about some of the key issues in this controversy by collecting precise data during a medical procedure. The procedure I chose involved placing a Foley catheter through the urethra and into the bladder of seven women who reported that they regularly expelled fluid during sensual and/or sexual arousal. The purpose of the catheter was to effectively segregate the bladder from the urethra and collect vaginal expulsions in a controlled, medically supervised environment.
It was an interesting experiment that had been conceived previously by researchers but never actually performed. I was moved to do this research mainly because I was intrigued by the fact that it had never been done before and fortunately I was acquainted with women ejaculators who were potential and willing subjects. Following a considerable amount of time screening and preparing the applicants, I assembled and managed the necessary research team, including medical personnel, and we created a relaxed and comfortable environment that was conducive to the experiment.
After urine specimens were collected from each of the female subjects, they were aroused for a period of at least an hour in whatever manner was preferable to them before the actual insertion of the catheter. The stimulation choices that were utilized were manual self-stimulation, manual stimulation by a partner and/or use of a non-mechanical acrylic device known as a Crystal or G-Spot wand.
After the subjects indicated that they felt properly stimulated and ready for the ejaculatory demonstration part of the experiment, the catheter was inserted. Their bladders were drained and the collection bag was changed. The bag with the drained fluid was saved for later analysis (of levels of urea and creatinine, the two main ingredients of urine).

Then, with the catheter in place, the subjects were asked to resume their stimulation of choice and achieved what they (and the medical team) considered to be an ejaculatory orgasm. Any method that the woman preferred was acceptable, although intercourse was not possible, due to the presence of the catheter tube. The primary conclusion from the experiment was that, at least for these seven women, all knowledgeable and experienced ejaculators, the vast majority of the fluid expelled unquestionably came from their bladders. Even though their bladders were drained by the catheter, they still expelled from 50 ml to 900 ml of fluid post-drained through the tube and into the catheter bag, the only reasonable conclusion for which seemed to be that the liquid came from a combination of fluid from the walls of the bladder and from new kidney output.
We also noted a consistency of results between our study and the earlier studies that also showed a greatly reduced concentration of urea and creatinine (the primary components of urine). The clear inference was that the expelled fluid is an altered form of urine, meaning that there appears to be a process that goes on during sensual or sexual stimulation and excitement that effects the chemical composition of urine.

Conclusions

The evidence of this experiment is clear and groundbreaking that the vast majority of the fluid expelled by women during sexual arousal originates in the bladder. Furthermore, that fluid, which passes through the urethra, may be "deurinized" liquid from the bladder. Additionally, in some women and at some times, a small discharge may be added from the female equivalent of the prostate gland, medically known as Skene's glands and long thought to be dormant and no longer functional, and which may be neither.
It has not yet been proven for certain whether women can expel at least a small amount of fluid from their urethral (prostate) glands, during a very deep and intense orgasm, but I sense that it is very close to being proven. Past research has indicated that most women have urethral glands and ducts about a third the size of the prostate gland of the average man, so the amount of fluid that might be emitted would naturally be likely to be less.
In my study, having segregated the urethra from the bladder, we observed, at least for our seven subjects, that more than 95% of the fluid expelled during sexual arousal originated I n the bladder. However, that fluid contained an average of only 25% of the amounts of urea and creatinine found in the subjects' baseline urine samples. We theorized that it may lose the appearance and smell of urine due to the secretion of the hormone aldosterone during sensual/sexual arousal, causing the re-absorption of sodium and the excretion of potassium by the kidneys.15 Furthermore, I found research material indicating that an involuntary opening of the bladder sphincter can be triggered with stimulation of either the G Crest or the clitoris or both simultaneously."16

Moreover, on five occasions we observed a small milky discharge from the urethra which may mix in the urethra with the fluid from the bladder. So it is possible that the ejaculatory fluid originates not from either the bladder or the urethral glands, but from both.
For the scientific community to keep saying that the fluid originating in the bladder is solely the result of urinary stress incontinence is a vast oversimplification. The same muscles, nerves, sphincters and reflexes may be involved in female ejaculation as in urinary stress incontinence but this is not urination and we do not want to leave women nor their partners with the impression that they are inappropriately urinating during sexual arousal. It should also be noted that, at least in American culture, there are strong negative associations with urination and defecation even though urine, of course, is sterile and not all cultures have the same biases regarding it.
However, if female ejaculation is viewed as natural and pleasurable, then a woman can feel good about her body as well as all fluids that come out of it. She can then experience these expulsions during sexual arousal more positively than in a situation in which these expulsions are considered "dirty," or a malfunction of the bladder, urogenital system or any of its components.
Desmond Heath, a New York psychiatrist, offered an interesting hypothesis on the question of whether all women can ejaculate and, if so, why don't they? Basically, it is his premise that little girls often become excited in their lives and this may result in their dribbling a few drops of urine. He theorizes that this is probably followed by some form of displeasure by their parents or other adults, along with an admonition that this is bad and wrong, possibly accompanied by feelings of shame on the part of the child. Often punishment follows. Subsequently, women learn to keep their pubococcygeal muscles contracted and don't allow the pelvic floor to relax. Later on, when they become sexually active, it is natural that most women find it difficult to feel emotionally safe enough to allow themselves to become aroused sufficiently to ejaculate."17
For women, relaxation and emotional safety are crucial in order to become aroused and stimulated enough so that at orgasm they can ejaculate. At such moments a woman might expel voluminous amounts of fluid from a nearly empty bladder, the fluid having only a tinge of the odor, smell or appearance of normal urine. However, for this to happen to women naturally and normally, our society will have to abandon its puritanical ancestry and celebrate this event as a symbol of a woman fully enjoying bodily pleasure.

I hope this helps answer your question.

 

[QueenObeymee]

ooops double post

 

[M's girl]

Ok, in Mr. G's post (the one he describes his TECHNIQUE) there is a post from romeonline, about whether or not what a woman squirts out is urine or not. romeonline did some research and came up with this......


I hope this helps answer your question.

Oh yes it does! I had not read this but I must say this was something I expected already, ain't that funny? Thank you.

 

[M's girl]

So what would you say has been your favorite type of porn so far?

Haha, aren't we going a bit off topic here with this? But OK, I'll try answer your question as best as posible... Since I'm a fairly "regular" girl regarding sex (I guess) "regular porn" is what I like to watch also. No bizarre stuf I mean. Also I like the somewhat more glamourous productions where time and effort has been spent on the decor and wardrobe (as far as they have anything on, haha). I don't think porn should have extended storylines and all that bla bla but on the other hand productions that only show the girls (and men I guess) as fuck dolls with three holes to fill are less appealing to me. I like hardcore and not softcore but it should somehow look good and show some foreplay as well.

Michael Ninn Productions, Andrew Blake and Jill Kelly Productions are my favourites. And yours?

Edited typo

 

[therockap1]

Haha, aren't we going a bit off topic here with this? But OK, I'll try answer your question as best as posible... Since I'm a fairly "regular" girl regarding sex (I guess) "regular porn" is what I like to watch also. No bizarre stuf I mean. Also I like the somewhat more glamourous productions where time and effort has been spent on the decor and wardrobe (as far as they have anything on, haha). I don't think porn should have extended storylines and all that bla bla but on the other hand productions that only show the girls (and men I guess) as fuck dolls with three holes to fill are less appealing to me. I like hardcore and not softcore but it should somehow look good and show some foreplay as well.

Michael Ninn Productions, Andrew Blake and Jill Kelly Productions are my favourites. And yours?

Edited typo

I like hardcore. Don't really have a preference. Not too much storylines, if i want a story i'll rent a movie.

 

[QueenObeymee]

Oh yes it does! I had not read this but I must say this was something I expected already, ain't that funny? Thank you.

YW dear glad to help