sports and trans folk... isn't it time for schools to embrace the concept of 'school teams' where any gender can compete for places on the team?

[butters]

most team sports have positions whose roles call for different skillsets... strength, speed, agility, adaptability, accuracy etc... there are 'mixed doubles' in tennis, and i have little doubt the likes of Sabrina and her sister could knock the socks of most, if not all, male tennis players.

even in sports like gymnastics, a stronger (often male) competitor isn't as well suited as more agile (often female) athletes, though there are obvious layers of overlap; you get very strong women, you get more agile (than their male team mates/competitors) males. A woman shot-putter may not (not guaranteed) have the same physical strength as her male counterpart, but might have better accuracy and technique.

my main point, here, is that at the level of school teams—like soccer/football/volleyball/basketball/track and field events et al—why not simply go all out 'any gender' and for that to then follow through into more advanced team situations as the norm?

 

[rockcasbah]

Please include Down Syndrome kids on all teams.

 

[oggbashan]

Some UK schools already do that, but usually only up to age 11.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

No. Never. Mixed doubles is a thing because it's good for the sport (both genders) and it was created for that reason. And I don't want to see a 200lb female tailback to run into a 300lb DE dozens of times in a game.

I don't want to see a 30-year-old trans beat a 13-year-old girl in a skate contest.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Some UK schools already do that, but usually only up to age 11.

Yeah, dodgeball and crab soccer don't count.

 

[rockcasbah]

Some UK schools already do that, but usually only up to age 11.

I’m thinking MLB.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

I’m thinking.

Link? Cite?

 

[oggbashan]

Yeah, dodgeball and crab soccer don't count.

Idiot. Cricket, soccer and Rugby are usual.

 

[Rightguide]

Yes, if you want to see the demise of female sports. Since the vast majority of the time, no female, or trans person can compete with men as such.

 

[butters]

i'd like to add here that (as a teenager) i was up against 3 other competitors (all male to my female) in a Venture Scouts swimming competition. One of the first female V.S's in the country, i was a decent swimmer and none of the lads wanted to enter the swimming competition. I put my name forward and, since it couldn't be refused, i was allowed to take part even though everyone expected me to lose over the freestyle 2-lengths (50 meter pool) race. They could hardly bear to watch and almost begged me not to embarrass myself. I came a tidy second. I was slim and 5'.4", the others were all bigger than me.

 

[oggbashan]

Yes, if you want to see the demise of female sports. Since the vast majority of the time, no female, or trans person can compete with men as such.

Up to age 11 girls can and often excel.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Idiot. Cricket, soccer and Rugby are usual.

Dumbfuck. Take a joke, viejo.

 

[KeithD]

Curling. Mixed gender teams. Let's do it.

 

[ll74]

Band was always mixed gender. Nobody ever complained.

 

[jaF0]

As I said before, do some size, weight and strength matching like they do in wrestling and boxing. Set classes accordingly.

 

[oggbashan]

Dumbfuck. Take a joke, viejo.

No. Your comment was degrading girls.

 

[jaF0]

^^ Your comments are those of a BB.


And let's not forget that you identify as another gender under one of your IDs.

 

[rockcasbah]

No. Your comment was degrading girls.

He’s just jealous.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

No. Your comment was degrading girls.

No, it wasn't. It's a literal fact.

 

[butters]

No. Never. Mixed doubles is a thing because it's good for the sport (both genders) and it was created for that reason. And I don't want to see a 200lb female tailback to run into a 300lb DE dozens of times in a game.

I don't want to see a 30-year-old trans beat a 13-year-old girl in a skate contest.

but don't they already have male players of diverse sizes and weights playing different positions on teams already?

as for the skate comp., it was open to all ages... perhaps a division ruled by age-groups would be fairer. It seems most the outrage is about the winner (being trans female) being so much older than the children competing (with the underlying gist being 'man beats young girls'). Would the story have had the same backlash if the transwoman had been a trans girl of the same age group as her competitors? Or if her competitors had been as old as her? Seems to me the most unfair advantage she had over the kids was skill through experience which comes through age.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

but don't they already have male players of diverse sizes and weights playing different positions on teams already?

as for the skate comp., it was open to all ages... perhaps a division ruled by age-groups would be fairer. It seems most the outrage is about the winner (being trans female) being so much older than the children competing (with the underlying gist being 'man beats young girls'). Would the story have had the same backlash if the transwoman had been a trans girl of the same age group as her competitors? Or if her competitors had been as old as her? Seems to me the most unfair advantage she had over the kids was skill through experience which comes through age.

Here's the thing; the NFL would fold if they allowed women (besides refs) on the field. No one wants to see that. And yes, the skate thing to me was more egregious because of age than gender but my point remains. It's just dumb.

 

[rockcasbah]

Here's the thing; the NFL would fold if they allowed women (besides refs) on the field. No one wants to see that. And yes, the skate thing to me was more egregious because of age than gender but my point remains. It's just dumb.

Hates women.

 

[LukSkyFokker]

Hates women.

We know. That's why you prey on younglings.

 

[rockcasbah]

Lukatmydick, like most American “Men”, express their latent homosexual desires worshipping 3 sports:

Baseball… tight pants, ball scratching
Football… tighter pants, ass up
Basketball… no pants, skimpy shirts
College Ball…”sweet sixteen”

 

[Philthy_Phil]

most team sports have positions whose roles call for different skillsets... strength, speed, agility, adaptability, accuracy etc... there are 'mixed doubles' in tennis, and i have little doubt the likes of Sabrina and her sister could knock the socks of most, if not all, male tennis players.

even in sports like gymnastics, a stronger (often male) competitor isn't as well suited as more agile (often female) athletes, though there are obvious layers of overlap; you get very strong women, you get more agile (than their male team mates/competitors) males. A woman shot-putter may not (not guaranteed) have the same physical strength as her male counterpart, but might have better accuracy and technique.

my main point, here, is that at the level of school teams—like soccer/football/volleyball/basketball/track and field events et al—why not simply go all out 'any gender' and for that to then follow through into more advanced team situations as the norm?

I would just like to say that if serena or any other female tennis player were to play against the men, she would probably rank 150th or worse. She even acknowledges this.

If they want to start a separate tranny league I'm fine with that.