Speaking Of Marines

The day I would stand at post unarmed in a hostile environment is never.
 
I have to go back and check but I thought Vette told us the problem was the Marines weren't involved because the attack was someplace without Marines. Did that change or can he speak out of both sides of his mouth?
 
“In the end, the ambassador of any country has the final call on what to do in a country,” the source said. “The buck stops with you. You make every decision.”

Security procedures are subjective and subject to change depending on locale, the source said.

Each ambassador, in consultation with their Regional Security Officer (RSO), sets the policy regarding the rules of engagement, according to the adviser. The RSO is responsible for coordinating all security measures and reports directly to the ambassador in any given nation.

“A decision or order to set rules of engagement that you can’t carry live ammunition and can’t engage violent crowds climbing over your walls and tearing down your flag stems from direct orders from the Chief of Mission and possibly whoever the Chief of Mission reports to,” the source explained.

Doesn't anyone in the State Department report to the President of the United States anymore? If Romney is smart, he will jump all over this.

Wherever United States armed forces are deployed, the buck should stop with the Commander in Chief under whose command those troops serve.

Furthermore, State Department employees, most notably ambassadors, are responsible for faithfully representing the foreign policy of the United States as it may currently exist at the direction of the President with the advice and consent of Congress.

If the President, in concert with the Secretary of State and local embassy officers, choose a specific policy such as "no live ammo" for embassy guards, then that decision ultimately should rest with the President and no one else.

Let's not forget whose really in charge here.
 
Speaking of marines, bigot, I got into the argument about whether John in was a racist.
 
This is a stupid thread. The obvious next thing that happens is someone compares the current ROE to the same during previous administrations and


Bush was worse! No, Clinton was worse!
 
I have to go back and check but I thought Vette told us the problem was the Marines weren't involved because the attack was someplace without Marines. Did that change or can he speak out of both sides of his mouth?

That was allegedly Libya not Egypt
 
This is a stupid thread. The obvious next thing that happens is someone compares the current ROE to the same during previous administrations and


Bush was worse! No, Clinton was worse!

LOL. I know all the drinking dens for Pendleton.
 
Doesn't anyone in the State Department report to the President of the United States anymore? If Romney is smart, he will jump all over this.

Wherever United States armed forces are deployed, the buck should stop with the Commander in Chief under whose command those troops serve.

Furthermore, State Department employees, most notably ambassadors, are responsible for faithfully representing the foreign policy of the United States as it may currently exist at the direction of the President with the advice and consent of Congress.

If the President, in concert with the Secretary of State and local embassy officers, choose a specific policy such as "no live ammo" for embassy guards, then that decision ultimately should rest with the President and no one else.

Let's not forget whose really in charge here.

This is who's in charge
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Somehow, I don't think that the Gunny would put his Marines on Post without live ammunition, orders to the contrary or no.

Gunnies seem to answer to a higher authority when it comes to protecting their post.

This is the first General Order: To take charge of this post and all government property in view, and the Eleventh is like unto it: To be especially watchful at night, and during the time for challenging, to challenge all persons on or near my post and to allow no one to pass without proper authority.

On these two Orders hang all the Sergeants and Corporals.
 
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