Spanking in Today's Brittish Schools?

[angela146]

Do schools in the UK still use corporal punishment in any form? If so, what? If not, when was it abolished/outlawed/discontinued.

I'm wanting to write a story inspired by the trouser/skirt issue (https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255630) and want to get it set in the proper time period.

It simply wouldn't do to have the verismilitude of the story interrupted by an anachronism.

 

[magicalmouse]

http://www.nospank.net/n-b53.htm

http://home.freeuk.net/mkb/mainpage.htm

These links might help

 

[Guest]

Short answer: a resounding, NO!

It was made illegal a long time ago. Not sure when, probably at least 25 years.

Teachers are afraid to even breath on kids these days, let alone give them a rap across the knuckles, for fear of criminal prosecution.

Lou

 

[angela146]

Thank you MM and TL!!!

I guess I'll have to come up with a work-around, involving a silent conspiracy and the Official Secrets Act.

Of course I could set the story in a Texas boarding school but that just wouldn't be the same.

 

[Virtual_Burlesque]

Make up that the principal told his underlings that those anti-corporeal punishment laws don't apply, because their students are over 18, while the law referred to "minor children in their custody."

Nah! Better not.

Nobody would believe that anyone in authority would weasel around with the law like that.

 

[angela146]

Nobody would believe that anyone in authority would weasel around with the law like that.

Thank you. Your idea is more believable and much simpler than my Official Secrets Act ploy...

 

[snooper]

Bear in mind that the pupils are rarely, if ever, sanctioned for hitting the teachers!

 

[matriarch]

Bear in mind that the pupils are rarely, if ever, sanctioned for hitting the teachers!

Sorry to disagree, Snooper, but that is incorrect.

Children/pupils are sanctioned, in English schools, with either detention or 'exclusion' for a set period. Parents are informed in an official letter, local education authority informed, goes on their record. Believe me, I am constantly seeing copies of exclusion notices for just that reason.

There are strict and explicit guidelines laid down by DfES (Department for Education in Schools), with regard to exclusion of pupils and the reasons for such action, which can and do, include verbal abuse to a pupil, verbal abuse to a teacher, physical abuse to a pupil, physical abuse to a teacher, constant disruption of lessons, refusal to obey and follow school rules........and many more.

Mat.




Edit: Silly me, DfES is 'Department for Education and Skills'. Duh!

 

[Guest]

In the United States -

Public school teachers are encouraged to press criminal charges if a student (or a parent) threatens or actually inflicts physical harm.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

From an erotic writer's point of view, spanking, birching, caning, and all sorts of nasty acts still go on in schools all the time, especially in exclusive finishing schools for innocent young ladies. It's also perfectly normal to trade sex for grades and for teachers to have good locks on their doors and comodious sofas in their offices, although sex on the desk is also encouraged.

You're in Lit land, Angela, a place where men are always ready and women always willing, after a fashion. A land without warts or moles or STD's, where every sexual encounter ends in a simultaneous and mutually fulfilling orgasm, where no one masturbates without being seen, where no one passes a mirror without thinking how good they look, where all the women are svelte and all the men 6'2 190 lbs and everyone works out 4 times a week. This is the only place in the universe where women have 36 DD breasts and men walk around with 10-inch penises stuffed into their skin-tight briefs.

We are a law unto ourselves here, so if you want to spank, by all means spank, and don't worry about reality.

---dr.M.

 

[Pure]

From a link provided by magical

Corporal punishment in state schools
The cane was finally abolished in state schools in 1987 after a long campaign by pressure groups such as S.T.O.P.P.

From his other link:

Text of British law banning corporal punishment in all schools, voted March 25, 1998
Abolition of corporal punishment in schools etc.


It's nice to see Britain in the vanguard of social change!

In North America now, the re-introduction of corporal punishment, is linked with an Evangelical Christian revival. It seems the the 'rod' and its application is sanctioned by the Book.

 

[SummerMorning]

...without thinking how good they look, where all the women are svelte and all the men 6'2 190 lbs and everyone works out 4 times a week...

hey, are you saying we don't all look like that? Next you'll tell me there's no Happy Santaman doling out free condoms!

Waaaaaahhhh!!!

 

[matriarch]

...........This is the only place in the universe where women have 36 DD breasts ..............

---dr.M.

I always knew there was something strange about me.

I don't exist outside of Lit.


Mat

 

[Guest]

From a link provided by magical

. . . It seems the the 'rod' and its application is sanctioned by the Book.

(In your best Beavis and Butthead voice)

"He said - rod."

*Snicker*

 

[cloudy]

(In your best Beavis and Butthead voice)

"He said - rod."

*Snicker*

 

[Guest]

You're in Lit land, Angela, a place where men are always ready and women always willing, after a fashion. A land without warts or moles or STD's, where every sexual encounter ends in a simultaneous and mutually fulfilling orgasm, where no one masturbates without being seen, where no one passes a mirror without thinking how good they look, where all the women are svelte and all the men 6'2 190 lbs and everyone works out 4 times a week. This is the only place in the universe where women have 36 DD breasts and men walk around with 10-inch penises stuffed into their skin-tight briefs.


---dr.M.

Shit, that was so close. You had me thinking I led an idyllic life, for a moment.

Shame about the tits.

Lou

 

[snooper]

Sorry to disagree, Snooper, but that is incorrect.

Tell that to the teacher who complains and is then immediately accused by the child of striking first.

The child is always believed (as a matter of policy) when it is a dispute between the teacher and child as to facts.

 

[angela146]

We are a law unto ourselves here, so if you want to spank, by all means spank, and don't worry about reality.

Thank you, darling!

I don't know, I guess I just enjoy having as much reality as possible in my stories. Certainly I digress from the real world but I like to do so only when necessary. If there is a way of keeping a story within the realm of the plausible I would prefer to do so.

Having said all of that, I think the way around it is to take advantage of the fact that the student would have to be 18 years old and would be able to consent to a spanking.

 

[angela146]

Re: In the United States -

Public school teachers are encouraged to press criminal charges if a student (or a parent) threatens or actually inflicts physical harm.

Yes. A lot of schools in the U.S. are adopting zero-tollerance policies.

Even those without will come down hard on a student who actually strikes a teacher.

Inner-city schools have had such policies for a long time. The Columbine incident changed a lot of things in the suburban schools to bring them more in line with reality. They no longer have illusions that "such things couldn't happen here".

 

[gauchecritic]

Just set the story (assuming it's an English school) pre 1980, although it was a dying art then. I remember getting 'slippered' in the early 70's, but that was a sadistic PE teacher, didn't get barely given the evil eye after I reached 5' 11" a few years later.

Gauche

 

[elfin_odalisque]

Still trying to find my way in this world, so excuse me if this isn't full of bells and whistles.

Angela

Reading the thread, Mab is closest to the truth. Corporal punishment was never a sexual thing in the UK, never done naked and usually a ruler on the hands.

I love the idea of your story but you are going to have to stretch reality - hell, we love that. As a girl who never experienced it, I loved my brother's stories about having to 'bend over', but it wasn't sexual for him, just embarrassing.

Go with the flow and find a severe correctional establishment for boys or girls where the principal is a perverted sadist.

The only problem is that everyone has to be over 18. Whether right or wrong, that limits the creative juices.

Why not set your story in the future, where accepted rules have changed?

 

[angela146]

After reading the "school for the sexual arts" suggestion thread...

https://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=255839

... I think it might be interesting to set the story in an elite private college. I could include a sexual arts curriculum (as part of the liberal arts requirements) and throw in school uniforms as a bonus.

That solves a host of problems, including the age thing.

 

[snooper]

... Corporal punishment was never a sexual thing in the UK, ...

Hmm ... in the mind of the punisher ... ?

... never done naked ...

Probably true.

... and usually a ruler on the hands. ...

Your youth becomes you. In my schooldays it was a ruler or a cane on the hand, or a cane on the rear end ("bend over, boy") for boys. A ruler on the hand, or a smacked thigh, or a cane on the hand for girls.

 

[snooper]

A few minor points

British has only one T.

A Public School in the USA would be called a State School in the UK.

A Private School in the USA would usually be called a Public School in the UK.

There are no Colleges in the US sense of the word in the UK.

All Literotica permitted pupils in UK schools are in the Upper Sixth form.

The various Grades in the USA are called Years in the UK.

Most children leave UK school in the July after their eighteenth birthday at the very latest and were in Year Twelve.

The subdivions of a UK school or university year are called Terms. Freshman is a first year student at the University in the UK. The terms sophomore, junior, semester and trimester are meaningless to a UK student.

A Prep School in the UK takes pupils only up to the age of twelve, and prepares them for entry into Public School via an exam called Common Entrance.

 

[Rusty914]

Swings both ways in the US. If a kid hits a teacher, the kids gone, no lawsuit but is expelled. /

Bear in mind that the pupils are rarely, if ever, sanctioned for hitting the teachers!