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Prince said it best with Darling Nikki.
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looks like Hogan's thinking of jumping in... santis doesn't have such great support outside of florida, and a lot of more 'normal' republicans might see Hogan as a solid candidate, especially as he spoke up against trump's lies over the Georgia election.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...pc=U531&cvid=bbece6d4154c4039a20fe031eb66d12b
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Well, yes, she's also ruled out in the past running in 2024 if Trump was running. But American politics don't work that way. She's busy now sounding very much like a probable candidate in 2024.
Her waffling (on other issues) has put me off, but I wouldn't have been voting for her anyway. The issue is whether she'll run for the Republicans.
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Far too early to say for a man only popular in Florida. He has two major problems identifiable now;Trump will run interference and he appears to be weak at debating.
Butters should consider Haley not as a good candidate but as a 'least bad' candidate. Trump and Pompeo are the worst candidates and I put Pompeo as at least as bad as Trump. The real conundrum for Democrats is picking a GOP candidate who is tolerable as opposed to one who can be beaten most easily. I reckon Trump would be the easiest to beat but haven't a clue which would be the most tolerable.
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Awww, I think Ugly Steve likes her!!
Steve Bannon Slams Nikki Haley Amid 2024 Rumors: 'Ambitious as Lucifer'
On Wednesday, the Associated Press reported that Haley is planning to announce a bid for the 2024 presidency in the next few weeks.
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Trump is still the biggest badest gorrilla in any Republican primary.
Desantis as of now is the only one with a decent shot of dethroning him for the nomination.
Nikki will get a percentage of the vote but I'd be shocked if it is higher than 20% and it would only take away the percentage of Rep. voters willing to vote for someone not named Trump.
Hogan will enter the primary and quickly find no one cares and bow out just as quick.
That's my take as of now.
Desantis as of now is the only one with a decent shot of dethroning him for the nomination.
Nikki will get a percentage of the vote but I'd be shocked if it is higher than 20% and it would only take away the percentage of Rep. voters willing to vote for someone not named Trump.
Hogan will enter the primary and quickly find no one cares and bow out just as quick.
That's my take as of now.
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Him? Drop out for anything? No, not that guy. First off, so much of his identity is tied into becoming president again and being the leader of the GOP and how in his deluded brain 2020 was stolen from him. Him give up on 2024 no, never ever. Not that guy. He's ride or die on 2024.
Also secondly running for president is one of the few viable legal defenses he has left against so many lawsuits he's fending off right now.
Nikki Haley has a snowflake’s chance in hell of winning the MAGAt nomination.
The only way anything changes is if the orange traitor is convicted of something and ineligible. - And the clock is really ticking on that possibility.
Currently even DeSantis is wary of entering the fray with the orange traitor.
The entire republican establishment knows they MUST keep the MAGAt voters on the hook to be even remotely competitive.
KM knows it. MM knows it, RDS knows it AND Nikki Haley knows it.
Liz Cheney could be a spoiler either way if she runs as an independent. The same with someone like Larry Hogan,
Ultimately, the “republican’s” best case scenario WOULD involve the orange traitor being convicted and ineligible, thus riling up the MAGAt base to “avenge” their orange martyr by voting for DeSantis, etc.
That ^ would be a tricky proposition if any of the “republican” challengers start taking legitimate shots at the MAGAt’s sacred orange cow NOW, (before the orange traitor is convicted of anything) and are seen as part of “the deep state” republican establishment.
The Democrats just need to maintain and expand their coalition.
Just like the US needs to maintain and expand the NATO coalition in Europe.
The only way anything changes is if the orange traitor is convicted of something and ineligible. - And the clock is really ticking on that possibility.
Currently even DeSantis is wary of entering the fray with the orange traitor.
The entire republican establishment knows they MUST keep the MAGAt voters on the hook to be even remotely competitive.
KM knows it. MM knows it, RDS knows it AND Nikki Haley knows it.
Liz Cheney could be a spoiler either way if she runs as an independent. The same with someone like Larry Hogan,
Ultimately, the “republican’s” best case scenario WOULD involve the orange traitor being convicted and ineligible, thus riling up the MAGAt base to “avenge” their orange martyr by voting for DeSantis, etc.
That ^ would be a tricky proposition if any of the “republican” challengers start taking legitimate shots at the MAGAt’s sacred orange cow NOW, (before the orange traitor is convicted of anything) and are seen as part of “the deep state” republican establishment.
The Democrats just need to maintain and expand their coalition.
Just like the US needs to maintain and expand the NATO coalition in Europe.
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Desantis seems to be getting his ducks in a row. He has the guy that was in charge of the Rep. governor's association or something as a campaign manager and more imprtantly at least two rich all important sugar daddy donors to use in Sheldon Adelson's widow and Keith Griffin on board behind him.
So he may be wary of entering the race before he's ready. Realistically he doesn't need to for a little while longer too.
So he may be wary of entering the race before he's ready. Realistically he doesn't need to for a little while longer too.
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He's already in the process of being dropped. This isn't about what he wants and will try to do. He's showing signs of understanding that and knowing that it's now more about trying not to go to prison than regaining the presidency.
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Him? Show signs of understanding reality? Where have you been for the last eight years? He'll call all that fake news and say his polls are the best ever, and his fundraising is the greatest it's ever been, and how people say he's the most popular president ever, and anything else is part of the Democrat's and Radical left media's attempts to steal it from in 2024 like they did in 2020?
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Trump's future is murky. The next few years are filled with civil and criminal court dates. Anything could happen. Remember when Jeb Bush was
the favorite?
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You insist on viewing it from what Trump does/says. That's increasingly not the determining factor in what is happening/will happen. When you're able to discuss from the perspective I'm actually looking at it from--and that is showing all over the place in the media now--we can continue to read the tea leaves here.
The topic is Trump being dropped. Trump increasingly is not the one controlling that. (And, no, his fundraising is not "the greatest it's ever been." His donors are dropping him--notice, DROPPING him. Go check some news.)
The GOP has a problem:
https://morningconsult.com/2024-gop-primary-election-tracker/
There is a major disconnect between establishment republicans / donors and likely GOP primary voters.
Ultimately, (barring conviction and ineligibility) I believe they will cave to the orange traitor and the MAGAts…..again.
It certainly doesn’t help that your everyday run of the mill MAGAt loves to see the “establishment” crawl just for the fun of it; The country and democracy be damned.
SAD!!!
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We'll see in 2024. I think we'll see long before that--that Trump is even now crumbling before our eyes. But, ultimately, we'll see in 2024. I don't have any need to convince you about that. But, by all means, check back to this post in the summer of 2024.
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Hogan would be a good President, but he's not nutty enough to get the Republican nomination.
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