Sometimes sex isn’t sexy

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

I've seen a lot of stories on here. As the resident lesbian with fucked up anatomy I don't find any of them particularly believable. At least when I view it through the lense of my own experience. I'm sure something close to the pleasure described in porn is possible for some people.

That much I'm willing to forgive. But I gotta say it is odd that the characters in literotica are so good at what they do. Like I've yet to see even a first time story that delves into the feeling of not knowing if anything is working and being too shy to ask. I've yet to be faced with the unsexy reality of sex in written form.

Is unsexy sex bad writing or just bad erotica?

I'm waxing philosophical here.

I fully expect the story I just submitted to flop, explicitly because it's a real experience. Told in the broadest of strokes it lacks the glamorous flair and the easy to jerk off to happy ending. But I have to ask myself why? Why is that a bad thing?

Does anyone else have a story that's not sexy?

 

[John_Vandermeer]

I've seen a lot of stories on here. As the resident lesbian with fucked up anatomy I don't find any of them particularly believable. At least when I view it through the lense of my own experience. I'm sure something close to the pleasure described in porn is possible for some people.

That much I'm willing to forgive. But I gotta say it is odd that the characters in literotica are so good at what they do. Like I've yet to see even a first time story that delves into the feeling of not knowing if anything is working and being too shy to ask. I've yet to be faced with the unsexy reality of sex in written form.

Is unsexy sex bad writing or just bad erotica?

I'm waxing philosophical here.

I fully expect the story I just submitted to flop, explicitly because it's a real experience. Told in the broadest of stromes it lacks the glamorous flair and the easy to jerk off to happy ending. But I have to ask myself why? Why is that a bad thing?

Does anyone else have a story that's not sexy?

Nope. My FMCs are seriously multi-orgasmic and my MMCs have ridiculously short refractory periods.

 

[ElectricBlue]

Possibly bad erotica.

I remember reading a story which was about a heroin user having sex. After reading endless vomit scenes, I concluded the writer was more into being a junky than he was into sex. That's the least erotic story I've ever read.

Even the lesbian scat stories I stumbled across had a bizarre kind of fascination which was vaguely sexual, but not that one.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Awkward sex that isn't your mainstream smooth perfectly-functional experience? Sounds like my kind of writing! (Some of it, anyhow.)

My Nude Day story features lesbians, fucked up anatomy, and not the sex readers probably wanted, hence a terrible rating so far, but one person got it: "Well that was different! despite that, I found myself enjoying it. Thanks for posting it."

It's not not-sexy - I don't really write that, apart from one guy's history of self-hatred including sex and using sex as a distraction - he gives two contrasting blow jobs in one chapter, one sexy, one 'clinical' to detract from nicotine withdrawal. Though come to mention it, I have a First Time story that probably meets your criteria, in places - plenty of awkwardness and things not working.

 

[alohadave]

I remember reading a story which was about a heroin user having sex. After reading endless vomit scenes, I concluded the writer was more into being a junky than he was into sex. That's the least erotic story I've ever read.

I read a series not too long ago about a girl getting hooked on heroin and being whored out by her boyfriend/pimp. It was well written, but it wasn't really erotica, even though it contained sex scenes.

 

[NotWise]

I doubt many readers come here to read about unsuccessful sex. That said, I think you can write clumsy, awkward, unsuccessful attempts, and still have a well-accepted story. I have a couple, anyway. It's all in the details, and maybe in how things get worked out.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

You've hit the nail on the very head, Ms Daisy.

Somebody once posted, "If I wanted to see wrinkly, fat old people having sex, I'd put a mirror next to my bed." This is a site dedicated, not to reality, but to erotica.

 

[ronde]

You've hit the nail on the very head, Ms Daisy.

Somebody once posted, "If I wanted to see wrinkly, fat old people having sex, I'd put a mirror next to my bed." This is a site dedicated, not to reality, but to erotica.

I wouldn't classify a lot of stories here as "erotica'. Many I would classify as porn, but there are some that are what I'd call "male fantasies". They may be well written, but not very plausible. As soon as I read "12 inch cock" or 44DD breasts on a woman also described as having a slender waist and narrow ass, I chalk it up to a male fantasy. It's the same with the five minute recovery for a guy. When I was 18, that was a possibility, but not once I turned 30. Maybe I'm just the odd man out, but I doubt it.

In most of my "first-time" stories, the guy fumbles around with the girl and cums after only a few strokes. The girl feels that first jab of pain so it's not really erotic for her at all. I think that's the most common first time experience.

 

[Djmac1031]

Most of my stories probably fall into "male fantasy" territory, but I do try to include a little realism.

In The Deal With Lara I had the male lead lose his erection in the middle of sex (he'd gotten a blowjob earlier in the evening) and he needed some time to recover.

He wound up going down on Lara for awhile, taking care of her until his erection came back.

My closest to reality story would be Mya Watches, about an older married couple who are struggling sexually but reconnect and find a fun alternative after the wife walks in on him masturbating.

No wild crazy sex, no multiple orgasms, no perfect bodies.

Just two people in love finding a way to share some intimacy despite some health issues.

 

[Bramblethorn]

I've seen a lot of stories on here. As the resident lesbian with fucked up anatomy I don't find any of them particularly believable. At least when I view it through the lense of my own experience. I'm sure something close to the pleasure described in porn is possible for some people.

That much I'm willing to forgive. But I gotta say it is odd that the characters in literotica are so good at what they do. Like I've yet to see even a first time story that delves into the feeling of not knowing if anything is working and being too shy to ask. I've yet to be faced with the unsexy reality of sex in written form.

Is unsexy sex bad writing or just bad erotica?

I'm waxing philosophical here.

I fully expect the story I just submitted to flop, explicitly because it's a real experience. Told in the broadest of stromes it lacks the glamorous flair and the easy to jerk off to happy ending. But I have to ask myself why? Why is that a bad thing?

Does anyone else have a story that's not sexy?

I don't have a great interest in writing "first time" stories, but I have one scene where a sex scene gets derailed when one character gets startled and accidentally headbutts her partner in the mouth. I think they do get it back on track, though. I also have an incident in Red Scarf where a BDSM scene gets aborted after the protagonist fucks up and her partner goes into an autistic meltdown.

I tend to keep the focus on people having enjoyable sex but sometimes it's good to acknowledge that not everybody is a sexual Olympian 24/7.

 

[TarnishedPenny]

All valid, truly. Yet try to think of a NYT bestselling novel in which everybody is just average, leading 'normal' lives - mortgage, 1.8 cars, 2.3 kids, 9-to-5. That's how most of us live - why would we want to read about that? When was the last Oscar handed out for a movie like that? Hardly - we want different, exciting (or at least interesting).

I've written first time and, yes, included her initial discomfort. I've written A-cup MFCs and awkward sex. True, I've written a few oversized willies and wobblies, but only if there was a real need for it in the plot; most are well-centred on the bell-curve.

Yet Literotica is a fantasy site, a place people go to be lifted out of their humdrum, taken away from the norm - in an erotic context. How to increase that eroticism? Well, good writing is certainly central, but having attractive people enjoying sex (including the workup to it) is pretty useful.

Moreover, think of the things which interfere with our 'normal' sex lives, things like menstruation, worries about pregnancy, ED, STDs, clumsy partners, children wanting a drink of water at the wrong time. With some exceptions, IRL we work around such things. It's hardly surprising that few of them are mentioned in most Lit stories. Oh, they can be worked in, but they're classic 'Chekov's rifle' and the author needs to have a reason to include them if they aren't to hamper the tale.

 

[SimonDoom]

I think most people come here (pun intended) for fantasy, not reality. Elements of reality may help connect the reader (or the author) with the story in a satisfying way, but most people, when they seek erotica, seek sexual pleasure. So it makes sense for character's bodies to be well-above average and for the characters to have better technique than their probable counterparts in real life would. If people want reality, bully for them, but I think they're in the minority. And, certainly, as far as erotica is concerned, reality doesn't make a story BETTER in any objective sense. Fantasy is perfectly valid both as art and as sexual stimulant.

 

[Lifestyle66]

I wrote into many of the sex scenes in my stories how the MFC wife grabs a few tissues to catch the cum before it drips out of her. This is what my wife does all the time in real life.

My wife would sometimes read my stories, and she once commented "Why would I want to read that?"

When my wife reads erotic stories, she's choosing them for the fantasies which she'll enjoy. And describing unsexy details is a turn off for her. But it depends on the reader and audience to which the author is trying to appeal. If I wrote about the MFC giving a guy a blowjob and the cum dripping out of the corner of her mouth and down her chin, my wife would find that a turn-off. But male readers might enjoy that visual.

But if authors want to write a blow-by-blow account of their real-life experiences, it probably belongs in a non-fiction biography. And readers will rate it based on what they are looking for.

 

[Milo_Grigsby]

Not entirely on topic but interestingly enough my story posted in Non-Erotic, which appropriately only has a fleeting reference to an implied sexual encounter between the two MCs, has received the most positive feedback in comments. Which EITHER means that I am actually not all that great at writing sex scenes OR people here do actually appreciate stories without sex (sexy or un). I'm kind of hoping it's the latter.

Aaaanyway, your post presents an interesting writing challenge to me. Looking back on my postings so far I have to admit that I have fallen prey to the typical collection of male sexual fantasies: males with freakish stamina or recovery who shoot massive loads, multi-orgasmic females who love giving head with deep throat, etc. I am tempted now to try to write an effective erotic story that depicts sex in a more realistic manner.

 

[SimonDoom]

I'm going to walk back just a bit from my last post, in this sense: to write good (and popular) erotica, you don't have to be realistic, but you also don't have to OVER-indulge in fantastic techniques and proportions. In my stories the men's members typically are firm and long, and get the job done effectively (because who wants to read about sexual failure?) but I don't go out of my way to describe them as having the width of a Coke can or the length a rolling pin. There's no need for that, and if an author does too much of that it's more likely to get eye-rolling from me than erotic pleasure.

 

[gunhilltrain]

I've seen a lot of stories on here. As the resident lesbian with fucked up anatomy I don't find any of them particularly believable. At least when I view it through the lense of my own experience. I'm sure something close to the pleasure described in porn is possible for some people.

That much I'm willing to forgive. But I gotta say it is odd that the characters in literotica are so good at what they do. Like I've yet to see even a first time story that delves into the feeling of not knowing if anything is working and being too shy to ask. I've yet to be faced with the unsexy reality of sex in written form.

Is unsexy sex bad writing or just bad erotica?

I'm waxing philosophical here.

I fully expect the story I just submitted to flop, explicitly because it's a real experience. Told in the broadest of stromes it lacks the glamorous flair and the easy to jerk off to happy ending. But I have to ask myself why? Why is that a bad thing?

Does anyone else have a story that's not sexy?

No, it's not bad writing or bad erotica. Maybe it's simply truthful? I've noticed that when I've written about prostitution, the results are not "sexy." The women who are doing it (I haven't written about the male versions yet) understand that it is purely transactional, a matter of money. They also grasp that their "customers" who think otherwise are deluding themselves.

This is about a real-life person (look her up) and a fictionalized guess about one trick she turned and the aftermath caused by her sheer exhaustion.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/valerie-in-new-york-ch-03

This is a made-up person, but she also experiences mental and physical distress that causes her to leave "the life" after about ten months.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/freshman-hooker

It seems to have a happy ending, but two years later she is back in paid sex work and it seems to go sour from the very beginning.

https://classic.literotica.com/s/nora-works-as-a-dominatrix

P.S.: You meant the "broadest of strokes." Pun intended?

 

[MrPixel]

Of course, what some people call "sex" is what others call "Ew! Gross!"

 

[stickygirl]

Erotica to me is huge umbrella term and by its nature is highly subjective. I've had erotic experiences that involved nothing more than a lazy Sunday morning and a feather - I could hardly breathe for the tension it created. Erotica to me is how you ended up in bed, not so much what you do when you get there.

I posted a 750-word comp story under Non-erotic but someone suggested it should have been under Romantic. Discussions of Lesbian stories are always lively at AH. There are good lesbians stories written by men and bad ones written by women and I wouldn't dare to suggest a proportion of one to the other.

I wear a pansexual badge, because I've written stories with no thought to what category they might belong. It's only at the end, with the cursor hovering over the category selection that I hesitate to ponder what the reader might think the content was - lesbian, romance, trans? I've written several stories that cover each of those areas. It doesn't matter to me what gender my characters are, but how they ended up in bed. Only then do I explore the fun sex side of things.

Write what you enjoy @AWhoopsieDaisy but don't opt for non-erotic if there are honest emotions expressed because that's then Romantic. Post a link please!

 

[quix581]

Awkward sex that isn't your mainstream smooth perfectly-functional experience? Sounds like my kind of writing! (Some of it, anyhow.)

My Nude Day story features lesbians, fucked up anatomy, and not the sex readers probably wanted, hence a terrible rating so far, but one person got it: "Well that was different! despite that, I found myself enjoying it. Thanks for posting it."

It's not not-sexy - I don't really write that, apart from one guy's history of self-hatred including sex and using sex as a distraction - he gives two contrasting blow jobs in one chapter, one sexy, one 'clinical' to detract from nicotine withdrawal. Though come to mention it, I have a First Time story that probably meets your criteria, in places - plenty of awkwardness and things not working.

Hi, I’m intrigued by your My Nude Day story. Please could you let me have a link to it

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Hi, I’m intrigued by your My Nude Day story. Please could you let me have a link to it

It's Naked Bisexual Lube Wrestling - not my best storytelling and suffered from a lack of computer to edit on, but if you imagine it as the drugged-up-on-prescribed-meds rambling of the narrator, I think it works OK. It's a sequel to Wheelchair Bound? and includes various characters I've used before.

I put it in the Exhibitionist/Voyeur category which might have been a mistake - Lesbian Sex readers might have appreciated a bunch of realistic bisexual women more. Who knows?

 

[MrPixel]

It's Naked Bisexual Lube Wrestling - not my best storytelling and suffered from a lack of computer to edit on,

No apologies necessary. At least I'm enjoying it. Haven't finished it yet since I'm bumping into tomorrow's deadline trying finish my own story, but it's a good read.

 

[RejectReality]

If I ever finish editing the thing, I've got one in the pipeline that's 90% emotionless, disconnected prostitute sex told from her perspective.

I tend to throw in a few fumbles with inexperienced males, but I typically err on the "it's fantasy" side.

 

[MrPixel]

I tend to throw in a few fumbles with inexperienced males,

Yeah, I just wrote something similar in a ND story I'm about to upload. Nerdy college boy turned out to be a virgin, and disappointed two FCs attempting a mercy fuck. Successful with the second, her complaint, "I didn't get anything out of it. Not fun."

 

[nice90sguy]

For a story to turn me on, the female protagonist needs to have a believable backstory and an unbelievable backside.

 

[AWhoopsieDaisy]

You meant the "broadest of strokes." Pun intended?

Oh yeah. All puns intended all the time.