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Rusty_Rider

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Hello!

Domination as in case of discipline, I have seen some cases where a master has trained his slave to do certain activities on command. Those acts put me to think far into the fact that can by discipline a master/mistress can put the submissive (or slave) into a state where he ( the master or mistress ) controls the bodily activities of the slave. This, obviously, can be explained by the fact that by regular and reoccurring training and punishments which put the body under painful experiences (both mentally and physically) teaches the brain of a submissive individual to react at certain commands so as to keep the “body” out of pain. I never believed it was ever possible unless I saw it myself a few days ago.
This has put me to serious thinking. Is it possible that a dominant can also improve a real bad man by teaching him some manners or by teaching him to keep his temper under control? Is it possible that by regular and continuous training can a man be trained to live a sensible life by quitting drugs and other bad habits?
Okay... I know the answer to the question... but would like to hear from u guys …
Adding another question … is there any Dom that would like to take up a job of this kind?

Extending this query to a personal I would add that I need a Dom for such a purpose...
I have been livin’ alone from the age 9, and I would say I got “seasoned” with all sorts of people and I did grew up and became the bad guy... and now after plenty long years I do realize that how wrong have I been but by now the attitude became habits and habits have turned out to be character. If a Dom is willing to undertake me as a slave... I would open the book of my life to him/her... I would follow as and whatever as u say... without any questions … u can control me completely... (Sex included)...
There will be no need for revealing your identity... all u can tell me is the state where u live... unless u want to!
Anyone interested?
Or is BDSM means one Dom usin’ his/her slaves just for their sexual pleasure … without a motive …
Just for a fuck?


~R~
 
You've been living alone since the age of 9? Can you explain how and why that occurred?
 
Rusty_Rider said:
Domination as in case of discipline, I have seen some cases where a master has trained his slave to do certain activities on command. Those acts put me to think far into the fact that can by discipline a master/mistress can put the submissive (or slave) into a state where he ( the master or mistress ) controls the bodily activities of the slave. This, obviously, can be explained by the fact that by regular and reoccurring training and punishments which put the body under painful experiences (both mentally and physically) teaches the brain of a submissive individual to react at certain commands so as to keep the “body” out of pain. I never believed it was ever possible unless I saw it myself a few days ago.
This has put me to serious thinking. Is it possible that a dominant can also improve a real bad man by teaching him some manners or by teaching him to keep his temper under control? Is it possible that by regular and continuous training can a man be trained to live a sensible life by quitting drugs and other bad habits?
Okay... I know the answer to the question... but would like to hear from u guys …
Adding another question … is there any Dom that would like to take up a job of this kind?
It sounds to me like you are looking for the "quick fix" to years of misbehavior. Even if you expect it to take a long time, you still want to have somebody else take responsibility for your past history and fix it for you. But in reality you have to do it. Nobody can force you to change your ways. What you are looking for might work in the short term, but it is just like using hypnosis to cure addiction - it isn't going to last.

Rusty_Rider said:
Extending this query to a personal I would add that I need a Dom for such a purpose...
I have been livin’ alone from the age 9, and I would say I got “seasoned” with all sorts of people and I did grew up and became the bad guy... and now after plenty long years I do realize that how wrong have I been but by now the attitude became habits and habits have turned out to be character. If a Dom is willing to undertake me as a slave... I would open the book of my life to him/her... I would follow as and whatever as u say... without any questions … u can control me completely... (Sex included)...
There will be no need for revealing your identity... all u can tell me is the state where u live... unless u want to!
Anyone interested?
Or is BDSM means one Dom usin’ his/her slaves just for their sexual pleasure … without a motive …
Just for a fuck?
~R~
BDSM is different things to different people. For some people it is just about the sex, for others it is about developing a loving, caring relationship between two people. Based on the little personal ad you've given, though, I suspect you'd attract HNGs and not anybody who wants to help you with your problems.
 
Don't you think we'd be un-fucking all the fucked up people by now if it were that simple?
 
FurryFury said:
You've been living alone since the age of 9? Can you explain how and why that occurred?


I grew up at an orphanage ... I hope that explains. Its the most crowded home you will ever see with least living space to grow .. but its the lonliest place on earth.


~R~
 
Etoile said:
It sounds to me like you are looking for the "quick fix" to years of misbehavior. Even if you expect it to take a long time, you still want to have somebody else take responsibility for your past history and fix it for you. But in reality you have to do it. Nobody can force you to change your ways. What you are looking for might work in the short term, but it is just like using hypnosis to cure addiction - it isn't going to last.

Obviously I am not looking for a quick fix! If it was that simple most criminals would have improved to an extent to win the "citizen" awards for the country.
Moreover .. dont think I sound like I am blaming others for what I became .. I hold responsibility for every act I did in my entire life .. no one else has to take responsibility for that nor would I like it that way!

What I am looking for might work for short -term and If I keep working on it in future it can be made long term .. aint it?

Hypnosis does cure some guys of addiction to drugs ... most dont get cured becoz they stop working on it/ or start working on them! Am I right?

BDSM is different things to different people. For some people it is just about the sex, for others it is about developing a loving, caring relationship between two people. Based on the little personal ad you've given, though, I suspect you'd attract HNGs and not anybody who wants to help you with your problems.

With due respects Ma'am .. I am new to this "forum" thing .. and with hardly any manners to talk .. this was almost the best what I could come up with! Would u like to help me? either with my post ( I dont know what's an HNG is! )or with what I need?
Hope u got me!




~R~
 
WriterDom said:
Don't you think we'd be un-fucking all the fucked up people by now if it were that simple?

I really dont know but wen life fucks you and u try to fuck it back .. u are just left fucked up! After that u start hating the fucking process and try to sort out ur fucked up brain .. some do chose fucking out to get relief from the fucked up life but still they realise it after the night that all they did was fucking up again! Sometimes the fucking doesnt helps to sort the fucking problems but creating the problems that u cant dare to fuck!

Life not only sucks but fucks as well .. hope u dont want to try!

~R~
 
Rusty_Rider said:
With due respects Ma'am .. I am new to this "forum" thing .. and with hardly any manners to talk .. this was almost the best what I could come up with! Would u like to help me? either with my post ( I dont know what's an HNG is! )or with what I need?
Hope u got me!
HNG = Horny Net Geek

As for the rest of it, I don't think I really believe you, so I wouldn't be interested in working with someone who is just trolling.
 
Rusty_Rider said:
Hello!

Domination as in case of discipline, I have seen some cases where a master has trained his slave to do certain activities on command. Those acts put me to think far into the fact that can by discipline a master/mistress can put the submissive (or slave) into a state where he ( the master or mistress ) controls the bodily activities of the slave. This, obviously, can be explained by the fact that by regular and reoccurring training and punishments which put the body under painful experiences (both mentally and physically) teaches the brain of a submissive individual to react at certain commands so as to keep the “body” out of pain. I never believed it was ever possible unless I saw it myself a few days ago.
This has put me to serious thinking. Is it possible that a dominant can also improve a real bad man by teaching him some manners or by teaching him to keep his temper under control? Is it possible that by regular and continuous training can a man be trained to live a sensible life by quitting drugs and other bad habits?
Okay... I know the answer to the question... but would like to hear from u guys …
Adding another question … is there any Dom that would like to take up a job of this kind?

Extending this query to a personal I would add that I need a Dom for such a purpose...
I have been livin’ alone from the age 9, and I would say I got “seasoned” with all sorts of people and I did grew up and became the bad guy... and now after plenty long years I do realize that how wrong have I been but by now the attitude became habits and habits have turned out to be character. If a Dom is willing to undertake me as a slave... I would open the book of my life to him/her... I would follow as and whatever as u say... without any questions … u can control me completely... (Sex included)...
There will be no need for revealing your identity... all u can tell me is the state where u live... unless u want to!
Anyone interested?
Or is BDSM means one Dom usin’ his/her slaves just for their sexual pleasure … without a motive …
Just for a fuck?


~R~

hmmm...to me, being a submissive isn't about having my Dom 'fix' me. in my opinion you have to have control of YOURSELF before you can hand that control over to a Dom. sounds to me like you need something more than a Dom, maybe some psychiatric help to get you over the past? you are the only one who can change your life and make 'you' a better person. yes, a Dom can guide you and 'help' you make changes but they cannot change you.

BDSM to me isn't about just 'sexual pleasure' but i'm not sure there is a 'motive' either other than two people who love and trust each other. Daddy and i have a bond like i've never seen or felt before, the sex is good but that's just not what it's all about. however, BDSM means different things to different people. sounds to me like you need to work on yourself before trying to find someone to take on being your Dom.
 
Okay... I'm NOT going crazy... Because I knew I had replied to this exact same message and here I was about to PM the Mods and ask 'em "WTF? Where'd my reply go?"

But this was posted verbatim in the BDSM personals and My reply is HERE. No need to re-invent the wheel.
 
Rusty_Rider said:
I grew up at an orphanage ... I hope that explains. Its the most crowded home you will ever see with least living space to grow .. but its the lonliest place on earth.


~R~

Thank you for answering my question.

Now matter what your childhood comprised, your choices are YOURS alone. For the most part, YOU will shape your own future.

Good luck. I hope you create a wonderful one.
 
Etoile said:
HNG = Horny Net Geek

As for the rest of it, I don't think I really believe you, so I wouldn't be interested in working with someone who is just trolling.

Am not "just" trolling here. And I dont understand what makes for your "unbelief".
If that is a way of saying "nay" .. dont stick the "no" with the gum of doubt.

~R~
 
FurryFury said:
Thank you for answering my question.

Now matter what your childhood comprised, your choices are YOURS alone. For the most part, YOU will shape your own future.

Good luck. I hope you create a wonderful one.


Wen you live in a place full of wild animals you get two options, one is to be a good boy and a nice person and get tortured, humiliated,and beaten everyday .. not only by the teachers, or people managing your "home" but bullies as well .. it does offers dying within urself each day and every moment trying to think why were you sent in this place .. but your head denies to think of anything .. so much is expected from you .. not only in academics but in physical( and sexual ) form as well ...
The second option that comes asks you to be strong enough and stab the biggest kitchen knife that you can steal, straight into the heart of the guy who will try to kick ur ass ... consequesnces will be there .. but that will be better than this for sure ...
Not telling you this in an attempt to hold the society or anyone responsible for my deeds ... ( Ofcourse .. I know what I have done ! And I have no apologies for that .. ! ) Just telling about the "wonderful" thing!

~R~
 
Rusty_Rider said:
Wen you live in a place full of wild animals you get two options, one is to be a good boy and a nice person and get tortured, humiliated,and beaten everyday .. not only by the teachers, or people managing your "home" but bullies as well .. it does offers dying within urself each day and every moment trying to think why were you sent in this place .. but your head denies to think of anything .. so much is expected from you .. not only in academics but in physical( and sexual ) form as well ...
The second option that comes asks you to be strong enough and stab the biggest kitchen knife that you can steal, straight into the heart of the guy who will try to kick ur ass ... consequesnces will be there .. but that will be better than this for sure ...
Not telling you this in an attempt to hold the society or anyone responsible for my deeds ... ( Ofcourse .. I know what I have done ! And I have no apologies for that .. ! ) Just telling about the "wonderful" thing!

~R~

If you're planning on spending your whole life blaming your childhood for every screwup you make, you're not likely to even be considered by a dominant worth his/her salt. Get off your ass and get your own shit together, and then you can go looking for someone. Dominants aren't therapists. I suggest studying William Glasser's Choice Theory and finding yourself a good therapist if you want to get serious about getting your life together. I studied Glasser's work in my Positive Psychology class as an undergrad, and it changed my life.
 
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Um, I don't think that she was talking about your past but about your future. But if YOU choose to dwell on your past there is not anything anyone can do to help you. YOU have to let it go before you can do anything else or be a part of anything more than yourself.
 
lil_slave_rose said:
hmmm...to me, being a submissive isn't about having my Dom 'fix' me. in my opinion you have to have control of YOURSELF before you can hand that control over to a Dom. sounds to me like you need something more than a Dom, maybe some psychiatric help to get you over the past? you are the only one who can change your life and make 'you' a better person.
If the horses had a control on themsleves; they would'nt need a jockey!
It is only the horses "who" can with the race .. jockeys wont run for them .. it is only they who have to control themselves and run faster and faster to win the race .. but lady .. they do need a jockey ... !
yes, a Dom can guide you and 'help' you make changes but they cannot change you.
Am looking for that "help".
BDSM to me isn't about just 'sexual pleasure' but i'm not sure there is a 'motive' either other than two people who love and trust each other. Daddy and i have a bond like i've never seen or felt before, the sex is good but that's just not what it's all about. however, BDSM means different things to different people. sounds to me like you need to work on yourself before trying to find someone to take on being your Dom.

U mean to say I need to improve myself as much as I can and then I will be ready for a Dom to take me up as a sex toy ?
Just like .. the horses need to win the race and if that impresses the jockey .. he/she will step up the horse ? Everyone want a good horse ... I need one who can make one!
Or atleast help me to be one !
Or wants to contribute some minutes everyday .. and I will make up my best efforts!!

~R~
 
Rusty_Rider said:
If the horses had a control on themsleves; they would'nt need a jockey!
It is only the horses "who" can with the race .. jockeys wont run for them .. it is only they who have to control themselves and run faster and faster to win the race .. but lady .. they do need a jockey ... !

Am looking for that "help".


U mean to say I need to improve myself as much as I can and then I will be ready for a Dom to take me up as a sex toy ?
Just like .. the horses need to win the race and if that impresses the jockey .. he/she will step up the horse ? Everyone want a good horse ... I need one who can make one!
Or atleast help me to be one !
Or wants to contribute some minutes everyday .. and I will make up my best efforts!!

~R~

As a horsewoman and a sometimes-dominant, that is a faulty metaphor at best and total bullshit at worst. :rolleyes:
 
You do not need a Dom; you need a good therapist.

What you are proposing, isn't nearly as "simple" as you make it sound. You are asking a Dom to reprogramme you to function well in society; this is not a Dominant's job; this is not something that can be done through some sort of Online-Dom-Accountability-Programme.

In order for such a proposal to work, you would have to

A) find someone willing to undertake the task (I have a hard time imagining a responsible Dominant doing so - it goes way too deep into psychological issues. *Good* Doms send their subs to therapy to deal with shit like this)

B) actually follow the "orders" of a complete stranger... if you find someone to do this, how do you know you are handing your life over to someone with whom you can trust your mental health/future life?

C) what happens if your grand plan doesn't work??? You conveniently have someone else to blame - the Dom who didn't "fix" you.

IMO, you would be better served to contact your county MHMR deptarment (Mental Health/Mental Retardation) for therapy on a sliding scale fee, suck up (grow up), and do the freaking work yourself, for yourself.
 
northwoods_sub said:
Um, I don't think that she was talking about your past but about your future. But if YOU choose to dwell on your past there is not anything anyone can do to help you. YOU have to let it go before you can do anything else or be a part of anything more than yourself.

Past is the Raw data that you feed into ur machine of Present and the output is future.
The final product depends on the input. I am not 'holding' it hard .. but ur past walks with you where ever you go .. if its gud one .. u get promotions
If its bad .. it keeps walking with you ....

Yes I am not holding it ... I am ready for reformation .. and I am working on it ....
I am here looking for "help" ...

~R~
 
CutieMouse said:
You do not need a Dom; you need a good therapist.

What you are proposing, isn't nearly as "simple" as you make it sound. You are asking a Dom to reprogramme you to function well in society; this is not a Dominant's job; this is not something that can be done through some sort of Online-Dom-Accountability-Programme.

In order for such a proposal to work, you would have to

A) find someone willing to undertake the task (I have a hard time imagining a responsible Dominant doing so - it goes way too deep into psychological issues. *Good* Doms send their subs to therapy to deal with shit like this)

B) actually follow the "orders" of a complete stranger... if you find someone to do this, how do you know you are handing your life over to someone with whom you can trust your mental health/future life?

C) what happens if your grand plan doesn't work??? You conveniently have someone else to blame - the Dom who didn't "fix" you.

IMO, you would be better served to contact your county MHMR deptarment (Mental Health/Mental Retardation) for therapy on a sliding scale fee, suck up (grow up), and do the freaking work yourself, for yourself.

Thanx .. for your grand advice !

I am looking for someone .. who can tell me "not to do this or do that .. like how much alcohol I must consume .. and alikes" ... or could plan up things for me ...
This isnt a big workload I am expecting from anyone who is willing ... atleast not that big for *Good* Doms send their subs to therapy to deal with shit like this)
I am working on myself ..
I did grew up .. only my way of watching things is different ..
most people think like "prey" .. but that's psycology ...
Secondly I dont need a MH/MR ..

Nyways .. thanx for the grand advice ... I was not looking for it!
~R~
 
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Rusty_Rider said:
Thanx .. for your grand advice !

I am looking for someone .. who can tell me "not to do this or do that .. like how much alcohol I must consume .. and alikes" ...
I am working on myself ..
Secondly I dont need a MH/MR ..

Nyways .. thanx for the grand advice ... I was not looking for it!
~R~

If you can't make simple decisions like when to stop drinking, yes you do need therapy, Alcoholics Annonomous, or some other sort of professional intervention. I suggested MH/MR, as it is an affordable way to get counseling that is available to everyone in the community.

Generally speaking, dominants do not want mindless robots. Dominants do not want the stress, annoyances, aggrivation and responsibilities of a submissive who is incapable of making even the most basic of choices - like when to stop drinking. Again - you are far more likely to succeed with therapy, than a D/s relationship.
 
CutieMouse said:
If you can't make simple decisions like when to stop drinking, yes you do need therapy, Alcoholics Annonomous, or some other sort of professional intervention. I suggested MH/MR, as it is an affordable way to get counseling that is available to everyone in the community.

Generally speaking, dominants do not want mindless robots. Dominants do not want the stress, annoyances, aggrivation and responsibilities of a submissive who is incapable of making even the most basic of choices - like when to stop drinking. Again - you are far more likely to succeed with therapy, than a D/s relationship.

Oh, Cutie, do stop it. You're ruining the poor boy's little fantasy. I mean, don't YOU want to be able to be an automaton who doesn't have to think for herself?

You noticed that MY advice about therapist and choice theory/reality therapy went totally ignored because it probably hit too closely to home, didn't you? :rolleyes: We've all got our problems, but it's up to us how we deal with them.
 
Rusty_Rider said:
This isnt a big workload I am expecting from anyone who is willing

You are refusing to see that what you are asking *IS* a huge workload/task for another human being to take on.

good luck.
 
Yes, I was talking about your future.

What you did in the past, no matter how terrible is the past.

The future is wide open unless you, yourself close it.

It's all about choices and learning to live with the ones you made, the ones you are making and the ones you will make.
 
Rusty_Rider said:
If the horses had a control on themsleves; they would'nt need a jockey!
It is only the horses "who" can with the race .. jockeys wont run for them .. it is only they who have to control themselves and run faster and faster to win the race .. but lady .. they do need a jockey ... !

Am looking for that "help".


U mean to say I need to improve myself as much as I can and then I will be ready for a Dom to take me up as a sex toy ?
Just like .. the horses need to win the race and if that impresses the jockey .. he/she will step up the horse ? Everyone want a good horse ... I need one who can make one!
Or atleast help me to be one !
Or wants to contribute some minutes everyday .. and I will make up my best efforts!!

~R~

umm..i'm not sure using horses as a metaphor works well....we are not horses, we are humans and no one NEEDS a Dom, not anyone i know anyway. it's a choice. and if you're just talking about sexual pleasure then i am not sure what you think a Dom is going to do for you in terms of helping guide you down the right path of life. the BDSM lifestyle is not always just about sex. and yes, you do need to improve yourself before you hand over the 'reins' to a Dominant party, if you are talking about a true relationship and not just being a 'sex toy'.

i am WAY more to my Dom than just His sex toy, and He helps me to better myself and shows me everyday how i can do things better to make life better for me and my kids and Him. what i don't understand is what you are looking for? you say you want a Dom to help you 'better yourself' yet you say this person does not have to give their real name to you, or anything that you just want to be their sex toy. how do you think that will help you?? *shrugs* i think you need a therapist, not a Dom, but that's my opinion no matter how unpopular it is.....good luck to you...
 
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