Someone, Anyone, Give Me Something to Think About

I have a good article on reverse engineering negative polarity gravitation field generators for the purpose of improving advanced spaceflight. It also links to a good article on quantum physics.

But my bookmarks all disappeared 2 weeks ago. You can ponder that if you'd like.

OR, here's a question: Which weighs more - the ancient pyramid at Cheops, or the Chrysler Building??

You seem bored this morning, Lav. Hi. I'm Storm. Have a good day.
:rose:
 
Israel OKs 60,000 more gun permits in terror fight
By Abraham Rabinovich
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
http://www.WashTimes.com/world/20020307-8478768.htm


JERUSALEM Sixty thousand additional gun permits are to
be distributed to Israeli civilians as authorities loosen licensing restrictions to help fight a growing wave of terrorism.

Armed civilians have played a significant role in bringing down terrorists during the Palestinian uprising, most recently during an attack this week by a Palestinian gunman at a Tel Aviv restaurant where a wedding party was under way.

A 46-year-old civilian packing a pistol fatally shot the terrorist at close range after three persons had been killed and he had been wounded. When a radio reporter asked the man whether he was a member of the security forces, he said he was a shoe salesman.

Police and Interior Ministry officials decided this week to make 60,000 more gun permits available to civilians, particularly reserve army officers and veterans of combat units. Guns also are being issued to firemen and municipal inspectors while they are on duty.

Most Israelis are army veterans and are familiar with firearms. Already, 265,000 guns are in civilian hands, particularly in border areas and the occupied territories. With terror now striking the Israeli heartland almost daily, officials decided to make more
guns available there as well.

Police Inspector-General Shlomo Aharonisky cited a danger that some people would be too quick to use the weapons.

"But," he said, "there's no question that weapons in the hands of the public have prevented acts of terror or stopped them while they were in progress. Chance passers-by have killed terrorists in the midst of gun attacks."

New bylaws obliging large businesses to post armed guards
outside their premises are soon to go into effect.

The laws will apply to any business with more than 5,000 square feet of floor space as well as hotels, cinemas and other locations that draw large crowds. Police patrols are being stepped up around schools, including kindergartens.

Adi Eldar, mayor of the city of Karmiel in Galilee, has asked all city officials to carry weapons during working hours. Mr. Eldar, head of the Union of Local Authorities, has called on all mayors in the country to do likewise.

One-third of the nation's 6,000 bus drivers also carry personal weapons to work.

Despite the uneasiness caused by the terror attacks, the public is not panicked. The dominant sentiment appears to be a desire to strike back at the Palestinians.

That mood was captured in an article published yesterday in the newspaper Yediot Ahronot under the headline, "What to do [when facing] an armed terrorist."

In the article, a retired police officer said civilians firing at armed terrorists might hit other civilians but argued that the risk had to be accepted.

Another retired police officer assured a radio interviewer that an easing of licensing restrictions would not put weapons in the hands of criminals. "Every criminal who wants a weapon already has one," he said.
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lavender said:

Maybe we could make this thread a place to link very interesting articles, not necessarily to comment on, but just for those who might be interested? And if someone finds that the article or something on that site merits discussion we could start a new thread.


One of the many internet papers I read is
"www.wnd.com"

Richard
Michigan
 
Did the Chinese beat Columbus?

http://www.msnbc.com/news/721582.asp?pne=11947&0ct=-300&cp1=1

Did the Chinese beat Columbus?

Historian claims that Chinese ships reached America in 1400s

LONDON, March 9 — Is it goodbye Columbus? A British historian’s claim that a Chinese admiral reached America decades before the Italian explorer has unleashed a frenzy of media interest in a theory that could force the rewriting of history


Perhaps a more relevant question is does it make any difference if they got here first if they didn't do anything about it?
 
As an addendum to Cheyenne's post...why is it that in Israel damn near anyone can carry around an automatic weapon, but they have a fraction of the gun violence (Israeli on Israeli) that we have. Is it because they are concentrating on defending themselves from a common enemy and don't have the time to rob and kill each other? Does their faith make them better, more responsible people?

Is an armed society a polite society?
 
Re: Re: Did the Chinese beat Columbus?

storm1969 said:


I would agree

That it doesn't make any differenece, or that history has to be completely rewritten?

There is a poll on that page. One of the choices is "there were so many others who beat Columbus that this is irrelevant." (or words to that effect.)

I've always felt that "America" was never "lost" and didn't need to be discovered. All of the pre-columbian "discoverers" just didn't make any significant mark on, or have any significant interaction with, America so there's nothing "historical" to record about those "discoveries."
 
Problem Child said:
As an addendum to Cheyenne's post...why is it that in Israel damn near anyone can carry around an automatic weapon, but they have a fraction of the gun violence (Israeli on Israeli) that we have. Is it because they are concentrating on defending themselves from a common enemy and don't have the time to rob and kill each other? Does their faith make them better, more responsible people?

Is an armed society a polite society?

It seems to undercut those advocating gun-controls as the ultimate solution to a violent society, doesn't it?
 
Do you really think so?

I agreed with that guy all the way to the end....

... and then.... he went soft.

I did not miss the appreciation of the institutionalization, the iconophany (if there is such a word) of "Ron Jeremy."

I saw Ron on "The Test".... (stupid show if you ask me), but I was completely amazed at how hypocritical Americans are about sex. Prostitution is illegal, Porno is BAD, yet here is the hedgehog himself on the stage. And his friend Randy West with a couple of young starlets in the audience.

Ron is a hedgehog. Porn is business (excellent business, in fact).

And porn is not just sex. There is the "pornography of greif" that our media culture is so fond of.

Erotica is porn, just like the news.

But I think I get you- tell me about erotica. What is it you like about it? Where do your tastes run into the wall in so far as erotica (another form of porn from my view) is concerned?

They are quite related- do you agree? I like my discussions on a middle ground sometimes.
 
Problem Child said:
Is an armed society a polite society?



Possibly.

My brother lives in a small town in the middle of Texas. When I went to visit him, I noticed guns seemed to be everywhere, on people, in trucks, all very visable. I also noticed that while here in Maryland, if you bump into to someone, it's "Move, asshole", there it is "I'm sorry, excuse me".

Take that for what you will.
 
Mensa said:


It seems to undercut those advocating gun-controls as the ultimate solution to a violent society, doesn't it?

So does this, from an email list I belong to:

The figure of 2.5 million uses of a firearm in self defense has been seen several times, but I don't recall ever seeing a source for the figures.

Armed Resistance to Crime: The Prevalence and Nature of Self-Defense with a Gun

Journal of Criminal Law and Criminology, vol. 86, issue 1, 1995

http://www.guncite.com/gcdgklec.html
 
Re: Re: Re: Did the Chinese beat Columbus?

Weird Harold said:


That it doesn't make any differenece, or that history has to be completely rewritten?

There is a poll on that page. One of the choices is "there were so many others who beat Columbus that this is irrelevant." (or words to that effect.)

I've always felt that "America" was never "lost" and didn't need to be discovered. All of the pre-columbian "discoverers" just didn't make any significant mark on, or have any significant interaction with, America so there's nothing "historical" to record about those "discoveries."

How significant they were is a moot point. If we dismiss them as irrelevant and don't bother to investigate whether they had influence or not we are doing ourselves and history a disservice.

There are too many anomalies throughout history to ignore. It is supreme arrogance on our part to imagine we've got it all right and nothing need be questioned.
 
alexandraaah said:


I'm pretty sure I've known who this is for a couple weeks now.
I still love Rainbow Bright.

As I've posted before, I find Rainbow Bright just irritating in general. I don't read "her" posts as I don't like posts that sound like kids playing mixed in with my porn. But that's just me. "She" has as much right to be here as anyone else.
 
A beautiful foto!

I see the line you are drawing in the eye of the beholder.

My penis sees a man who is about to roll to his left and drink this woman.

My soul sees Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Children of the cosmos, creating cosmos.

It's a beautiful photo, Lavender. And the people are perfect- as we all are. :)

edit/add: I am almost compelled to go look up some Ruskin. Maybe I will sometime.

not what we see.... how we see......
 
Re: Did the Chinese beat Columbus?

Mensa said:
How significant they were is a moot point. If we dismiss them as irrelevant and don't bother to investigate whether they had influence or not we are doing ourselves and history a disservice.

There are too many anomalies throughout history to ignore. It is supreme arrogance on our part to imagine we've got it all right and nothing need be questioned.

Good point. I never meant to imply that discovering the extent and nature of pre-columbian trade/contact with the Americas wasn't important to understand.

Still, given the scope of the changes wrought by Columbus' "discovery" and exploitation of the Americas that pre-columbian contacts were essentially benign and/or trivial in scale. They certainly didn't create any massive changes or disturbance to the native cultures.

There is certainly some compelling hints that ancient Egypt traded with the "New World" long before the Vikings, Chinese, or Columbus did -- i.e. the "cocaine mummies" and other traces of plants only found in the Americas in Egyptian archeological digs.

I'm reasonably certain that there were maps and charts of the Americas destroyed in the Library of Alexandria along with a good many other "discoveries" that later figure prominently in our euro-centric histories.
 
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