Some opinions?

[Betticus]

I want to get a S/O and cover her body in topical novocaine except for her crotch. Tie her to a restraint system and totally force her into the sensory deprivation. Blindfolded, able to feel nothing but me inside her and to hear my voice.

I think that it would really help with a training type of thing I've been thinking of.

Feedback? Anyone?

 

[Xelebes]

It'd be like fucking the Matrix! Whoa... dude! Far out!

Sorry, no actual advice in this post.

 

[Betticus]

Look at that, one person replied. Cool.


I'm really liking this sensory deprivation scenario. Look at it this way. A sound spanking, the pain concentrated in one area forces attention to that area and upon the person delivering that pain.

This scenario I'm thinking of does something similar but instead of causing an overload of sensation on one area it takes away a lot of other sensation and causes her to experience heightened awareness on the sex and voice.

The blindfolding contributes to it as well.

The effect being that it forces her attention to what I am doing to her and pretty much nothing else. If all she can feel is my cock and all she can hear is my voice...... the impact should be good. There are many variations of this game that I can play.

 

[RJMasters]

I don't know the medical implcations

Sounds like an interesting thing to try.

Would definately check into the medical ramafications for doing it one time vs multiple times.

I don't know how available novicane is either.

As a different suggestion, what about hypnosis? Maybe you could learn the technique of hypno and if your partner is willing....you could accomplish the same thing.

I don't know just making a suggestion, interesting idea.

 

[bluntforcemama]

It's certainly an original thought. It sounds lovely... the cock and voice part. What if you just didn't touch her anywhere else, even while making love to her-- just hold your body away from hers. It would be a type of teasing, too, because if you're holding away, then you can't go very deep either, depending on your positions. Perhaps you could try using novicane only on the parts where her body touches something else, such as the restraints or other equipment.

Then when you finally can't stand it anymore you can line your body up with hers, head to toe, and touch every inch of her before cumming. That might be a sensation you'd both enjoy-- the sudden closeness at the critical moment.

 

[Netzach]

Tape mummification, legs spread.
Way cheaper and easier. 3m vetwrap.

 

[Betticus]

That hypnosis comment gave me ideas.

I could just talk her through everything I want her to think and feel while I'm doing it. Make her talk about everything that is happening while it's happening. Tell her what I want and get her to shape her own mind, will and body for me. A gift you might say.

If she wants to give me that then I don't need to take it from her forcefully. It would just be more fun. Of course she would understand that I want to take it from her but to have her give it willingly would be nice.

I like cooperation.

 

[SweetDommes]

If you do the novacaine thing, you need to make damn sure that she isn't sensitive to it first - well in advance (as in, at least 24 hours to check for a reaction). And in that quantity, it could cause a reaction in someone who isn't sensitive to it. Plus, I'm pretty sure that you would have to get a prescription for that ...

However, I was in a chat room the other day, and learned of something that I believe has a small amount of lidocaine (which you would still need to make sure she does not react to). He said that his Domme uses it on him and it doesn't eliminate sensation, but does dull it - it's called ella-max (I think ... I can't find the paper I wrote it down on) and you can get it at WalMart.

If you are going to cover her, be very careful ... very very careful - as with the novacaine, even someone who wouldn't normally react to it may.

Oh, and I missed another part of it ... "restraint system" ...
If you are suspending her while she is numb, she cannot give you feedback on if it's too tight, if it's cutting in, if it's causing damage ...

 

[Betticus]

Something comfortable. No suspension or anything like that. Padded restraints. She won't be able to feel them anyhow. Maybe instead of completely numbing her I could dilute it in bathwater, apply liquid latex to the areas I want her to have sensation in and bathe her in the dilute solution. That way it would not be in direct contact with her skin in it's undiluted form.

This could also be something I could build up to. It would be interesting of course. Test some of it on her skin in a small spot and see if she has a reaction. Work us both up to using it. Mix in some with her massage oils. A numbing massage oil would be interesting.

Fuck it. There are so many different ideas and so many different variations floating around in my head that even I can't keep track of them.

Another thing to consider. The numbing effect might turn her off so much that I couldn't achieve anything by it other than chalking it up as a failed attempt.

 

[SweetDommes]

Something comfortable. No suspension or anything like that. Padded restraints. She won't be able to feel them anyhow. Maybe instead of completely numbing her I could dilute it in bathwater, apply liquid latex to the areas I want her to have sensation in and bathe her in the dilute solution. That way it would not be in direct contact with her skin in it's undiluted form.

This could also be something I could build up to. It would be interesting of course. Test some of it on her skin in a small spot and see if she has a reaction. Work us both up to using it. Mix in some with her massage oils. A numbing massage oil would be interesting.

Fuck it. There are so many different ideas and so many different variations floating around in my head that even I can't keep track of them.

Another thing to consider. The numbing effect might turn her off so much that I couldn't achieve anything by it other than chalking it up as a failed attempt.

Ok, so you had thought about the possible dangers of her not being able to feel the restraints - good for you, not everyone does think of that ...

The numbing massage would be interesting, although that's something I would want after a long night at work, not as part of playtime

And you are right, it could just be a total failure - but you won't know until you try it ...

I think diluting it is a good idea ... but you might want to check out how strong the ella-max (or whatever you use) is - for what you are wanting, you don't want to dilute it too much or it won't do anything to her.

 

[James G 5]

I've gotta think that much of an application would be toxic
Have tou ever seen a vacuum bed?
They make a model that has a "port" for sex
That would have the effect you're looking for

 

[corkie2]

When I am restrained so that I cannot move....

blindfolded so I cannot see

ears covered with ear muffs so I cannot hear

my focus is totally concentrated on sensations I feel. So I think if you are wanting her focused on only the part of her body you are paying attention to restraining her in such a way that you can fuck her or do anything else to her without touching any other part of her body would do the trick.

The total body novicane thing to me sounds too risky. I certainly would not try it w/o checking out the overdose possibilities and other ramifications angle. You could have some serious problems if you did this and she had a bad reaction to it.

But I must say I like the way your mind works..........*s* Your sub is a lucky girl.

 

[Peregrinator]

Lidocaine

Couldn't find Novocaine in my drug reference...they're very similar...

Local anesthetic

Description:

Local anesthetic

Indications:

LOCAL: infiltration anesthesia, nerve block

TOP (spray, ointment, solution) : anesthesia of skin and accessible mucous membranes

TOP (jelly): anesthesia of urethra, anesthetic lubricant for endotracheal intubation

Contraindications:

Hypersensitivity to amide anesthetics, heart block, septicemia, ophthalmic use

Spinal anesthesia (preparations containing preservatives)

Precautions:

Pregnancy category C

Inflammation, sepsis, shock

Elderly, children, severe liver disease

Adverse Reactions (Side Effects):

CNS: anxiety, disorientation, seizures, shivering, tremors, loss of consciousness

CV: bradycardia, cardiac arrest, dysrhythmias, myocardial depression

EENT: blurred vision, tinnitus

RESP: respiratory arrest, status asthmaticus

SKIN: allergic reactions, burning, edema, irritation, rash, tissue necrosis, urticaria

Local anesthetic

Description:

Local anesthetic

Indications:

LOCAL: infiltration anesthesia, nerve block

TOP (spray, ointment, solution) : anesthesia of skin and accessible mucous membranes

TOP (jelly): anesthesia of urethra, anesthetic lubricant for endotracheal intubation


Doesn't seem like a great idea. I think I remember reading that they were both based on cocaine. Think about dosage...all that surface area....probably really bad news. I do happen to know a pretty kinky anaesthesiologist, who might have a better idea.

 

[Betticus]

Hmmm...

Okay, the drugs are too risky. The novocaine anyhow. I'll risk a lot of things for pleasure but not another persons well being.

I'll have to consider the harder way. Purely psychological.

I could use a toy and that way isolate the sensation to just her pussy. That way I could still whisper in her ear.

 

[Peregrinator]

A physician's comments

This is a little late, and I see that you are already looking for alternatives, but here's what my friend the anesthesiologist had to say. I'm posting it in case anyone else gets the idea and has a lot less sense than you, Betticus.

"First of all, every one who thinks the concept of total body novacaine
is a bad idea has very good instincts. Fortunately, even those with bad
instincts who attempted it would find that it didn't work, and they
would in effect be saved from themselves. Novacaine, lidocaine, and all
the other local anesthetics intended for IV/spinal/epidural injection
are not absorbed through skin. If they were, and you bathed in them,
you'd have seizures and/or cardiac arrhythmias and die.

I hesitate to even mention this, but there is a compound out there that
IS well-absorbed through skin, and it's used a lot in pediatrics for
blood draws and placing IVs. It is very possible to die from local
anesthetic toxicity, so I'm not going to say anything more.

A caveat - it IS possible to absorb enough lidocaine through mucous
membranes to get systemic toxicity. They make all kinds of pleasant
preparations for topical anesthesia of the oropharynx, and if you are
exposed to enough of it, it will kill you (sense a recurrent theme?).

Enough said. Don't do anything with local anesthetics that your local
anesthesiologist wouldn't do."

Which, if this anesthesiologist is local to you, actually includes a startling number of things. I must preserve my friend's anonymity, but I will proclaim my undying affection and gratitude here.

 

[bluntforcemama]

I like cooperation.

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[Betticus]

Oh well.

I'll come up with other ideas.

Maybe prep a dungeon in a remote area, rent a van and get a couple of buddies to help me kidnap her. Wear masks and shit. Tie her up and blindfold/gag her, take her out to the dungeon. Fuck, it could be my own basement. She wouldn't know. Get tape recordings of foreigners speaking to each other in arabic, whatever. As long as it fools her. Play the arab news channel or something. Tie her naked down to a bench after the friends leave and then play with her all I want.

I want a soundproof basement dungeon with a floor drain and hoses. For the cleanup.

So the effect will be that she won't know who is using her body.

There won't be any warning, she won't know it's coming. Could really mess her up and take her back to her car when I'm more than done, cut the ropes and make her get out still blindfolded a few hours later and then make tracks for home, switch vehicles and go home. Pretend to be pissed off that she is late. Leave messages on her cell phone asking where the hell she's at and all that.

 

[bluntforcemama]

Have I ever told you about my dream of becoming a Russian spy?

 

[James G 5]

Oh well.

I'll come up with other ideas.

Maybe prep a dungeon in a remote area, rent a van and get a couple of buddies to help me kidnap her. Wear masks and shit. Tie her up and blindfold/gag her, take her out to the dungeon. Fuck, it could be my own basement. She wouldn't know. Get tape recordings of foreigners speaking to each other in arabic, whatever. As long as it fools her. Play the arab news channel or something. Tie her naked down to a bench after the friends leave and then play with her all I want.

I want a soundproof basement dungeon with a floor drain and hoses. For the cleanup.

So the effect will be that she won't know who is using her body.

There won't be any warning, she won't know it's coming. Could really mess her up and take her back to her car when I'm more than done, cut the ropes and make her get out still blindfolded a few hours later and then make tracks for home, switch vehicles and go home. Pretend to be pissed off that she is late. Leave messages on her cell phone asking where the hell she's at and all that.

See, I have a van I purchased JUST for things like that

 

[Betticus]

Have I ever told you about my dream of becoming a Russian spy?

I work for NASA, let's play!

 

[Betticus]

See, I have a van I purchased JUST for things like that

Sweet!