Some Manner of Bullshit

[Lee Chambers]

Parents' Ire Grows at Pedophile's Blog

By JENNIFER STEINHAUER,
The New York Times
Posted: 2007-07-29 09:40:03

LOS ANGELES (July 28) -- The search for the self-described pedophile in the large-brimmed black hat commences nearly every day here, with findings posted on chat rooms frequented by mothers.

He was spotted at a fair in Santa Clarita. He recently emerged from the Social Security office on Olympic Boulevard. He tapped away on a computer at the library in Mar Vista. Warnings have gone out. Signs have been posted.

And yet unlike convicted sex offenders, who are required to stay away from places that cater to children, in this case the police can do next to nothing, because this man, Jack McClellan, who has had Web sites detailing how and where he likes to troll for children, appears to be doing nothing illegal.

But his mere presence in Los Angeles -- coupled with Mr. McClellan’s commitment to exhibitionistic blogging about his thoughts on little girls -- has set parents on edge. One group of mothers, whose members by and large have never met before, will soon band together in a coffee shop to hammer out plans to push lawmakers in Sacramento to legislate Mr. McClellan out of business.

Read the rest here.

Someone needs to take this guy out...one way or another.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Cut his brake lines.

 

[Stella_Omega]

I wonder if he's surprised at the outrage?

 

[S-Des]

Reminds me of the guy who goes between high school & junior high sporting events, videotaping the cheerleaders. He then sells the video tapes on Ebay and other sites, advertising them by showing stills of the young girls (usually panty shots). They had the police chief where he lives on Fox, and he said there was nothing they could do. Just like a lot of crackpots, they'll keep going until they get caught doing something, or they piss off the wrong parent.

 

[MagicaPractica]

Scary, maybe if he was following a particular kid they could use the anti-stalking laws against him? Isn't there something they can do that has to do with the term "menacing?"

 

[Liar]

Of course he's not surprised. He's trolling for attention. Taking trollish behaviour to it's most ridiculous extreme.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Scary, maybe if he was following a particular kid they could use the anti-stalking laws against him? Isn't there something they can do that has to do with the term "menacing?"

He doesn't menace.

He is in public places, and he indulges his thoughts in the privacy of his own mind-- at least, so he swears. Then he shares those thoughts on the internet, later.

This is not illegal behavior. However it's pretty reprehensible, and some citizen will offer up a very concrete objection sooner or later-- a couple gallons of concrete, I'd bet.

 

[MagicaPractica]

He doesn't menace.

He is in public places, and he indulges his thoughts in the privacy of his own mind-- at least, so he swears. Then he shares those thoughts on the internet, later.

This is not illegal behavior. However it's pretty reprehensible, and some citizen will offer up a very concrete objection sooner or later-- a couple gallons of concrete, I'd bet.

You're right, but I will be very surprised if he does not escalate his behavior at some point. He's getting his jollies out of this now but at some point it's probably not going to be enough for him.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

At some point in the cycle of life we, all of us here at Lit., would, have or are being, called sick and perverted for what we do. Whether the stories be of the Loving Wives, Incest & Taboo, Interracial, Mature or Sci-Fi Fantasy...we of the liberal mind have written things in the name of the first amendment about things that others of the world might find reprehensible.

And although I don't find what this guy does a good thing, until he does what he speaks of thinking about, he deserves all the rights that we shout about for ourselves.

Big brother will truly be upon us if and type of legislation is passed to prevent him from doing what he does, writing about his thoughts and fantasies.

 

[Stella_Omega]

You're right, but I will be very surprised if he does not escalate his behavior at some point. He's getting his jollies out of this now but at some point it's probably not going to be enough for him.

I doubt he'll live that long... Far too many people are anticipating that same escalation, and plenty of those will be willing to nip it in the bud, so to speak.

 

[MagicaPractica]

At some point in the cycle of life we, all of us here at Lit., would, have or are being, called sick and perverted for what we do. Whether the stories be of the Loving Wives, Incest & Taboo, Interracial, Mature or Sci-Fi Fantasy...we of the liberal mind have written things in the name of the first amendment about things that others of the world might find reprehensible.

And although I don't find what this guy does a good thing, until he does what he speaks of thinking about, he deserves all the rights that we shout about for ourselves.

Big brother will truly be upon us if and type of legislation is passed to prevent him from doing what he does, writing about his thoughts and fantasies.

I don't believe I suggested anything that would violate his rights. I'm suggesting looking for ways that he has already violated the rights of others.

 

[Zeb_Carter]

I don't believe I suggested anything that would violate his rights. I'm suggesting looking for ways that he has already violated the rights of others.

I don't believe I said you did, I perhaps should not of included you in the quote. Nor Stella for that matter. I don't know what I was thinking when I did that.

 

[unpredictablebijou]

Here's an interesting thought: in one sense, he's far less dangerous than most pedophiles. Obviously, if you're that public about it, people are going to be keeping a much closer eye on you, and waiting for you to actually slip up. He'll be a lot easier to catch than, say, someone's innocent and amiable uncle ralph, or that morally unimpeachable pastor, or whatever.

sometimes I write things that I would never actually do. Sometimes I even post them on the internet. Occasionally, I feel like writing about them helps me let them go, not obsess about them, figure out a healthy way to approach them. For me, they may be monsters that become smaller and more definable when I have the courage to fit them through my mouth.

While I absolutely agree with the general sentiment that the planet would be far better off less the weight of this asshole, I had to offer these two ideas to the discussion.


peace,
bijou

 

[Boxlicker101]

He doesn't menace.

He is in public places, and he indulges his thoughts in the privacy of his own mind-- at least, so he swears. Then he shares those thoughts on the internet, later.

This is not illegal behavior. However it's pretty reprehensible, and some citizen will offer up a very concrete objection sooner or later-- a couple gallons of concrete, I'd bet.

More likely a series of steel-jacketed bullets.

 

[MagicaPractica]

I don't believe I said you did, I perhaps should not of included you in the quote. Nor Stella for that matter. I don't know what I was thinking when I did that.

Peace

 

[Stella_Omega]

I don't believe I suggested anything that would violate his rights. I'm suggesting looking for ways that he has already violated the rights of others.

I'm saying that his civil rights will be violated, inevitably.

 

[MagicaPractica]

Here's an interesting thought: in one sense, he's far less dangerous than most pedophiles. Obviously, if you're that public about it, people are going to be keeping a much closer eye on you, and waiting for you to actually slip up. He'll be a lot easier to catch than, say, someone's innocent and amiable uncle ralph, or that morally unimpeachable pastor, or whatever.

sometimes I write things that I would never actually do. Sometimes I even post them on the internet. Occasionally, I feel like writing about them helps me let them go, not obsess about them, figure out a healthy way to approach them. For me, they may be monsters that become smaller and more definable when I have the courage to fit them through my mouth.

While I absolutely agree with the general sentiment that the planet would be far better off less the weight of this asshole, I had to offer these two ideas to the discussion.


peace,
bijou

I too write about things that I would never actually want to happen in real life. I consider it a safe way to explore these fantasies. What concerns me is that he seems to be targeting a group of people and an area in his writing. I may be wrong in that but it seems like he is menacing them in a way. Again, I may be misunderstanding what is going on in some way.

 

[MagicaPractica]

I'm saying that his civil rights will be violated, inevitably.

I'd say you're probably right. I'm not saying I think that's a good thing though. As much as part of me yearns toward vigilante justice at times, I don't think it's good for our society.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

At some point in the cycle of life we, all of us here at Lit., would, have or are being, called sick and perverted for what we do. Whether the stories be of the Loving Wives, Incest & Taboo, Interracial, Mature or Sci-Fi Fantasy...we of the liberal mind have written things in the name of the first amendment about things that others of the world might find reprehensible.

And although I don't find what this guy does a good thing, until he does what he speaks of thinking about, he deserves all the rights that we shout about for ourselves.

Big brother will truly be upon us if and type of legislation is passed to prevent him from doing what he does, writing about his thoughts and fantasies.

Pedophilia is just too immediate of a threat to ignore like that.

People who write about murderers who kill half a town with a chainsaw aren't an immediate threat to go out and kill with a chainsaw.

People who write about sex with kids, on the other hand...

 

[Stella_Omega]

Pedophilia is just too immediate of a threat to ignore like that.

People who write about murderers who kill half a town with a chainsaw aren't an immediate threat to go out and kill with a chainsaw.

People who write about sex with kids, on the other hand...

Quod Est Demonstrat; Instant vigilante reflex!

 

[Lee Chambers]

At some point in the cycle of life we, all of us here at Lit., would, have or are being, called sick and perverted for what we do. Whether the stories be of the Loving Wives, Incest & Taboo, Interracial, Mature or Sci-Fi Fantasy...we of the liberal mind have written things in the name of the first amendment about things that others of the world might find reprehensible.

And although I don't find what this guy does a good thing, until he does what he speaks of thinking about, he deserves all the rights that we shout about for ourselves.

Big brother will truly be upon us if and type of legislation is passed to prevent him from doing what he does, writing about his thoughts and fantasies.

And who stands up for the rights of the children and the parents in this situation?

 

[Stella_Omega]

And who stands up for the rights of the children and the parents in this situation?

The rights of parents and children to live in a world where not one single pedophile ever voices his desires?

I don't know how you'll be able to control that much human behavior , Lee. Really.

 

[rgraham666]

I'm wondering if he's foolishly pulling our legs, doing some sort of a psychological experiment to see how people react.

Or perhaps he hasn't got the balls to put the gun in his mouth and this is some elaborate suicide ploy.

Or perhaps he's trying to goad someone into murdering a person he doesn't like. Make the people who read the site think the 'Jack Mclellan' is a 'pedophile threat' in the hopes that someone blows him away.

All I know is if this man is killed for what he's written, we'll be starting down a dark road.

 

[angelicminx]

Pedophilia is just too immediate of a threat to ignore like that.

People who write about murderers who kill half a town with a chainsaw aren't an immediate threat to go out and kill with a chainsaw.

People who write about sex with kids, on the other hand...

How so? I don't see the difference. In both cases it's just writing at this point, what's to keep either writer from fulfilling their 'fantasy'?

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Quod Est Demonstrat; Instant vigilante reflex!

Actually, I don't support actually shooting him dead until he actually touches a kid inappropriately. Right now it's a matter of law enforcement taking action, if they can.