Soldiers!

[teddybear4play]

Re: Right or wrong...

A Soldier's Story
By Matt Condon
t r u t h o u t | Perspective

You think this is somehow amazing?

There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who have served in the U.S. military. That you found one who thinks Bush is stupid is the Law Of Averages, not some amazing perspective.

TB4p

 

[Somme]

You really are the epitome of callow, ignorant youth, Ted - if you wern't so abysmally ignorant and bigoted I'd be inclined to put you on ignore. You do, however, have a limited amusement value mainly due to your cheap, ineffective (and often childishly scatalogical) attacks. Get things straight, laddie, if you want to play with the grown-ups. The man who wrote the article is one of many who see through the despicable doings of the present government of the USA; you may be able to discover that their voices are becoming more and more strident. The position that you take - if it is worthy of being called a position - is becoming more and more untenable with each passing day. Do us all a favour in future by being less ill-mannered and rude; it really doesn't improve the tenor of the place and you may even find that despite not agreeing with other opinions, you may learn to respect people - and perhaps even earn other peoples' respect.

 

[teddybear4play]

Get this straight, jackass: I respect people with opinions. I engage in dialogue with people like Don K Dyck, p_p_man, and Lovelynice, and though sometimes I deliver some sarcastic barbs, 1) this is a free country, 2) they're more than welcome to return fire, and 3) just to reiterate, this is a free country, so stuff it.

I have much less respect for people like you and REDWAVE, who don't have opinions so much as they have an awful lot of links to people who have opinions. Before the above, I cannot remember the last post you made with more than about 25 words that were clearly your own. Every now and again you'll add something like "this is an interesting perspective," but that's worthless. It's hit-and-run argument. busybody had more personal expressions than you, and he was considered by everyone, even people who might otherwise have agreed with him, as an ignorant buffoon. Just because your vocabulary is larger than his doesn't change that.

Say what you want about my "abysmally ignorant" views (I personally don't see "bigoted" myself, but then I'm abysmally ignorant, what do I know?), but at least I put them on the line. You can offer nothing else but boilerplate sloganeering and a bunch of words written by other people.

The day you rely more on your argument and less on Matt Condon's will be the day I respect you. Unfortunately, you'll never respect me, because I disagree with you and am sometimes a bit rude. Oh yeah, and scatological. I haven't yet made a scatological reference in this post, so I'll close with one:

Eat shit.

TB4p

 

[Somme]

Ted, I'd presume you were speaking to me.

If you wern't aware of it, I'm not posting in your country, but in an international setting which is, despite all efforts to the contrary of J. Ashcroft and co, still free.

If I had as much time as others to do so, I'd gladly spend more time exchanging views; my reiteration is that I'd be willing to do so in a civilised and adult manner - and I've made this perfectly clear.

Should you wish to not read what I've posted, don't. But don't expect me to not post further; it's my way of sharing what I've read. Many of the things I post ARE germain to the 'discussions'; many do not represent my own particular viewpoint/s; many, I find, have only limited value but i'll post them if I find it useful.

I don't rely on any argument; much of what is being 'discussed' is of a fluid nature; much is conjecture and there's a whole load of rubbish to sort through. My opinions and judgements may also be changed if cogent arguments are presented, but ONLY if they're presented and backed by good research.

Your concluding paragraph I'll just ignore; I think that even you may retrospectively admit it was a cheap shot.

 

[teddybear4play]

I know you're not from the U.S.. Ashcroft crack aside, the waiver next to the posting window says, in part: "By posting a message on this bulletin board, you understand this is your exercising of free speech under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution - which governs this website. As such, any reply to you is also protected and you waive liability to Literotica for any discussion resulting from such a reply or thread. If you do not agree, then DO NOT POST." In short, you can say whatever you want, and I can do the same. Ain't freedom great?

I never said I expected you to stop posting. It's part of that whole freedom deal. I wish you'd alter the manner in which you post, and as long as you're at it, dump the condescending attitude, but I can't make you do that.

Much of what you discuss is conjecture just as much as anything else. That whole "despicable doings of the present government of the USA": It's conjecture. It's opinion.

My last paragraph was indeed a cheap shot, and I wrote it with full knowledge and intent to be so. Don't like it? Too fucking bad. You called me bigoted and ignorant twice — isn't that a cheap shot just as much? I'm just more direct and honest about my verbal attacks. In short, I slog in the trenches while you pirouette around them.

TB4p

 

[p_p_man]

Get this straight, jackass: I respect people with opinions. I engage in dialogue with people like Don K Dyck, p_p_man, and Lovelynice, and though sometimes I deliver some sarcastic barbs, 1) this is a free country, 2) they're more than welcome to return fire, and 3) just to reiterate, this is a free country, so stuff it.

Oh goody....

BANG!...you're dead...

Just put it down to friendly fire...



ppman

 

[Jean Claude]

I'm not sure, but I think p_p_man was trying to be humourous.

Obviously the joke lost momentum as it travelled from his head to his typing fingers and ended up on a thread as yet another example of pap.

 

[p_p_man]

Re: Re: Right or wrong...

You think this is somehow amazing?

There are hundreds of thousands of Americans who have served in the U.S. military. That you found one who thinks Bush is stupid is the Law Of Averages, not some amazing perspective.

TB4p

Think again...

"Veterans Against Iraq War is a coalition of American veterans who support our troops but oppose war with Iraq or any other nation that does not pose a clear and present danger to our people and nation.

Until and unless the current U.S.Administration provides evidence which clearly demonstrates that Iraq or any other nation poses a clear, direct and immediate danger to our country, we oppose all of this Administration's pre-emptive and unilateral military activities in Iraq. Furthermore, we cannot support any war that is initiated without a formal Declaration of War by Congress, as our Constitution requires."

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**sigh** Lord, forgive TB4p for he knows not what he says?...

ppman

 

[Vixandra]

Well this thread got cute... even got newbies on saying people are being funny and not mean.
A couple of firearms jokes, a few "eat shit" insults, all sorts of fun things.

 

[REDWAVE]

Draft

The Bush regime has been making moves lately toward reinstating the draft. Any attempts to do so should be uncompromisingly opposed as involuntary servitude in flagrant violation of the Thirteenth Amendment. Should the draft actually be resumed, discipline within the ranks of the military will almost certainly break down totally.

SOLDIERS! TURN THE GUNS AROUND!

 

[teddybear4play]

Re: Re: Re: Right or wrong...

Think again...

[snip]

**sigh** Lord, forgive TB4p for he knows not what he says?...

I didn't honestly think he was the only soldier who opposed Bush.

My point still stands: some veterans think Bush's actions haven't been prudent (Wesley Clark), some support them wholeheartedly (Norman Schwarzkopf).

TB4p

 

[Somme]

Re: Re: Re: Right or wrong...

Think again...

"Veterans Against Iraq War is a coalition of American veterans who support our troops but oppose war with Iraq or any other nation that does not pose a clear and present danger to our people and nation.

Until and unless the current U.S.Administration provides evidence which clearly demonstrates that Iraq or any other nation poses a clear, direct and immediate danger to our country, we oppose all of this Administration's pre-emptive and unilateral military activities in Iraq. Furthermore, we cannot support any war that is initiated without a formal Declaration of War by Congress, as our Constitution requires."

Visit the Site

**sigh** Lord, forgive TB4p for he knows not what he says?...

ppman

I suppose things have to be spelled out. Well done, pp.

 

[teddybear4play]

Wow, way to miss the forest for the trees, fellas.

TB4p

 

[REDWAVE]

Willful blindness

I suppose things have to be spelled out. Well done, pp.

Those who are willfully blind can never be made to see.

 

[zipman]

Re: Willful blindness

Those who are willfully blind can never be made to see.

LOL, when was the last time you looked in a mirror?

 

[teddybear4play]

Re: Willful blindness

Those who are willfully blind can never be made to see.

Says the man who gouged his own eyes out years ago.

TB4p

 

[Somme]

http:// www.freepress.org/columns.php?strFunc=display&strID=788&strYear=2003&strAuthor=7

 

[REDWAVE]

Bush and his rich cronies are proud to send you to die for their country.