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Peregrinator

Peregrinator

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1) Define it please. Justify your definition with some sort of credible source.

2) Name someone currently in politics who is a socialist according to that definition. Use specific examples.

Alternatively, prove to me that I am a socialist.
 
Socialism is, in Marxist theory, the transitional phase from a capitalist system to the Utopian communist system. In socialism, all means of production is centralized.

Raul Castro

I have not seen you support socialism, so I will not define you as one.
 
1a) A socialist is someone who doesn't agree with Amicoot.

1b) A socialist is someone who isn't a member of the Ayn Rand Institute.

2) All politicians who are not members of the Ayn Rand Institute are socialists.

Let's see...I think that makes you a socialist. Bites, doesn't it? :mad:
 
Wok said:
Socialism is, in Marxist theory, the transitional phase from a capitalist system to the Utopian communist system. In socialism, all means of production is centralized.

Raul Castro

I have not seen you support socialism, so I will not define you as one.
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You never will see me support the centralization of all means of production.
stephen55 said:
1a) A socialist is someone who doesn't agree with Amicoot.

1b) A socialist is someone who isn't a member of the Ayn Rand Institute.

2) All politicians who are not members of the Ayn Rand Institute are socialists.

Let's see...I think that makes you a socialist. Bites, doesn't it? :mad:
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I'm increasingly of the mind that when people call me a socialist--which of course only ever happens here--what they mean is "you are slightly further to the left than I am." Using that logic, they are also further right than I am, so I will henceforth refer to all of them as anarchists. Does that seem reasonable?
 
Peregrinator said:
1) Define it please. Justify your definition with some sort of credible source.

2) Name someone currently in politics who is a socialist according to that definition. Use specific examples.

Alternatively, prove to me that I am a socialist.
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STFU.
 
According to many here, denial of being a Socialist proves you are one. Just as appearing homophobic proves you're gay. Just sayin'. :rolleyes:
 
wiki:

Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.[1][2][3] A socialist society is organized on the basis of relatively equal power-relations, self-management, dispersed decision-making (adhocracy) and a reduction or elimination of hierarchical and bureaucratic forms of administration and governance, the extent of which varies in different types of socialism.[4][5] This ranges from the establishment of cooperative management structures to the abolition of all hierarchical structures in favor of free association.
As an economic system, socialism is the direct allocation of capital goods (means of production) to meet economic demands so that production is oriented toward use and accounting is based on some physical magnitude, such as physical quantities or a direct measure of labour time.[6][7] Goods and services for consumption are distributed through markets, and distribution of income is based on the principle of individual merit/individual contribution.[8]
As a political movement, socialism includes a diverse array of political philosophies, ranging from reformism to revolutionary socialism. Some currents of socialism, often referred to as state socialism, advocate complete nationalisation of the means of production, distribution and exchange as a strategy for implementing socialism; while social democrats advocate public control of capital within the framework of a market economy. Libertarian socialists and anarchists reject using the state to build socialism, arguing that socialism will, and must, arise spontaneously. They advocate direct worker-ownership of the means of production alternatively through independent syndicates, workplace democracies, or worker cooperatives.
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I'm not aware of anyone here or of national prominence in the USA who advocates more than one or two of these ideas at the most.
 
Peregrinator said:
You never will see me support the centralization of all means of production.


I'm increasingly of the mind that when people call me a socialist--which of course only ever happens here--what they mean is "you are slightly further to the left than I am." Using that logic, they are also further right than I am, so I will henceforth refer to all of them as anarchists. Does that seem reasonable?
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They'll take it as a compliment. The faux-libertarianism that is all the rage now has the entire right thinking they're the new patriot-warriors.
 
i just dug a big old dry bugger out of my right nostril. it was disgusting, but also incredibly satisfying.
 
off2bed said:
According to many here, denial of being a Socialist proves you are one. Just as appearing homophobic proves you're gay. Just sayin'. :rolleyes:
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You don't just "appear" to be homophobic.
 
Peregrinator said:
Nope. He has geriatric dehydrated buttfuckers in his nose.
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where the fuck did you get geriatric?

oh yes, old. touche.

also, fuck you opera spellchecker. put the goddamned accent on it for me, you cunt.
 
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