So, you think this memo thing has legs?

[adrina]

steel dossier timeline

 

[Luk]

Are you guys talking about that FBI text message thing that was debunked and proven fake? Its hard to tell, I'm pretty new around here.

For a new girl, you're way more informed than the whiney bitch currently going by "Que".

 

[BobBalouski]

Page was presumably talking about the Russian interference investigation. Why wouldn't a president want to stay informed regarding such a thing?

He thinks the FBI should be "his guys" and not a separate entity.

http://www.sherv.net/cm/emo/laughing/roflmao.gif

BTW, wannbe: the referenced text is dated September 2, 2016. The FBI obtained its first FISA warrant against Carter Page a month later in October 2016. Robert Mueller was appointed to head your "Russian interference investigation" in May 2017.

Maybe you'd like to rethink what adulterous lovers Strzok and Page were gossiping of in September 2016, and then tell us why the head of the Democratic Party would be so interested as to order the FBI to keep him up-to-date about it?

BWII: you'd better be preparing your socialist/progressive/Democrat ass for ravishing butthurt coming your partisan way on the Russia deal, and you'd better double that dose of vaseline because CIA/FBI undercover informant William D. Campbell began speaking with staff members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, House Oversight, and House Intelligence Committees today, and if what he says is true, it means basically EVERYTHING Obama, Hillary, Holder, & Lynch have said about Uranium One are lies, with his FBI handlers even continually telling him ALL of them - including Obama getting daily briefs - knew exactly what he was uncovering, because what Campbell was learning from the Russians alarmed him so much he couldn't believe his handlers WERE actually keeping their higher ups informed.

God, it's going to be so friggin' fun watching your progressive buttholes getting reamed over and over and over and over...

FBI informant on Uranium One Breaks Silence Today
Testified to three committees on Capitol Hill
https://saraacarter.com/fbi-informant-uranium-one-breaks-silence-today/

 

[BobBalouski]

President Obama to Chris Wallace in 2016:

I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it.”

Today, as the September 2, 2016 Page text becomes public:

A new report released Wednesday by a prominent Republican senator suggests texts between an FBI lawyer and an agent who was once part of Robert Mueller's special counsel team show that then-President Barack Obama was keeping tabs on the agency's investigation into the Hillary Clinton email scandal.

...the two had been tasked with preparing talking points for then-FBI Director James Comey because Obama apparently wanted to be kept abreast of the case.

In a Sept. 2, 2016, text exchange, Page writes that she was preparing the talking points because "potus wants to know everything we’re doing."

So, who's flat-out lying?

 

[Hypoxia]

So, who's flat-out lying?

Keep squawking, Henrietta.
The fox is closing in.

 

[patient1]

Page was presumably talking about the Russian interference investigation. Why wouldn't a president want to stay informed regarding such a thing?

I would think developments should be part of the daily briefing.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Anyone here not aware that Hillary's campaign helped pay for the dossier?
Show of hands?

"Helped?"

All of the funding came either from the campaign or the DNC which was a wholly owned subsidery of the campaign and used just as a vehicle to launder large donations that would have exceeded campaign limits if they hadn't run them through the DNC first.

Pssst.

*whispers* That is why it’s called “opposition” research.

 

[Wrong Element]

I would think developments should be part of the daily briefing.

True. When I posted that in response to Vette 2.0, I didn't realize that Fox had been spreading the disinformation that the texts were supposedly about the Clinton email investigation that had ended two months prior, instead of being about Russia, which makes infinitely more sense.

 

[HisArpy]

I would think developments should be part of the daily briefing.

Developments of what? The collusion investigation was just beginning at that point. The email scandal was what was in the news at the time and Obama stated quite clearly that he remained distant from the FBI/DOJ on that and everything else.

Thus the question; why would the POTUS "want to know" about something that he said he officially kept away from? And HOW would Page and Strzok know he wanted to be briefed on developments? Especially if he wasn't involved?

The butt reamin' is a-coming. I think even Libs see it because the lies that usually come from the left aren't very loud right now.

 

[Aglaopheme]

Developments of what? The collusion investigation was just beginning at that point. The email scandal was what was in the news at the time and Obama stated quite clearly that he remained distant from the FBI/DOJ on that and everything else.

Thus the question; why would the POTUS "want to know" about something that he said he officially kept away from? And HOW would Page and Strzok know he wanted to be briefed on developments? Especially if he wasn't involved?

The butt reamin' is a-coming. I think even Libs see it because the lies that usually come from the left aren't very loud right now.

RoJo is a bozo, ffs. How can lies so easily debunked be taken seriously by you? Do you verify nothing through other sources? Comey closed the case in Clinton months prior to this.

Three days after Page sent her text, Obama confronted Putin for Russian meddling in the 2016 election on the sidelines of the G20 meeting in Hangzhou, China.

"In early September, when I saw President Putin in China, I felt that the most effective way to ensure that that did not happen was to talk to him directly and tell him to cut it out, there were going to be some serious consequences if he did not," Obama told reporters on December 16, 2016.

The September 2016 text also came months after Comey held a July news conference where the FBI director announced the closure of the Clinton email investigation and sharply criticized Clinton's handling of her emails at the State Department but recommended no charges against the former secretary of state.

And a subsequent text that Johnson released seemed to indicate Strzok only learned of new Clinton emails being discovered at the end of September, and it was weeks before Comey would reopen the Clinton investigation. Comey briefly reopened the investigation on October 28 -

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/07/politics/ron-johnson-obama-clinton-investigation/index.html

 

[BobaFetaCheese]

Developments of what? The collusion investigation was just beginning at that point. The email scandal was what was in the news at the time and Obama stated quite clearly that he remained distant from the FBI/DOJ on that and everything else.

Thus the question; why would the POTUS "want to know" about something that he said he officially kept away from? And HOW would Page and Strzok know he wanted to be briefed on developments? Especially if he wasn't involved?

The butt reamin' is a-coming. I think even Libs see it because the lies that usually come from the left aren't very loud right now.

Even Fox has pushed that text shit to the back pages because it turned out to be bullshit.

 

[Que]

So Obama was or was not COMPLETELY removed from investigations as he claimed, or was he wanting to know EVERYTHING. I don't see how it can be both.

There is no plausible deniability for him remaining if whatever all this distills down to is not able to be spun into the "nothingburger" that Dems are going to insist on cha4acterizing it, regardless of whatever it is.

 

[Aglaopheme]

So Obama was or was not COMPLETELY removed from investigations as he claimed, or was he wanting to know EVERYTHING. I don't see how it can be both.

There is no plausible deniability for him remaining if whatever all this distills down to is not able to be spun into the "nothingburger" that Dems are going to insist on cha4acterizing it, regardless of whatever it is.

I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say there. I have one word for you just the same:

Pending....

 

[BobBalouski]

Like ALL natural liars, Obummer is directly asked one specific question (whether he'll protect Hillary Clinton re her email debacle) yet expounds further to indignantly proclaim, ala Bubba Clinton commanding he "did not have sex with that woman"...

“I can guarantee that not because I give Attorney General [Loretta] Lynch a directive, that is institutionally how we have always operated,” the former president claimed. “I do not talk to the Attorney General about pending investigations. I do not talk to FBI directors about pending investigations. We have a strict line and always have maintained it. I guarantee it.”

Whether adulterous lovers Strzok & Page were referring to the Clinton INVESTIGATION or the Russia INVESTIGATION doesn't matter an iota; what matters is FBI lawyer Page, elaborating on preparing reports for FBI Director Comey, UNARGUABLY states to Strzok, “potus wants to know everything we are doing."

Chris Wallace should interview Obummer again, remind Obummer of intentionally lying to Wallace, and then ask him about the almost $1 million Obama for America paid the law firm Perkins Coie between April 2016 and August 2017, during the same time Perkins Coie was also facilitating the transfer of $millions$ between Hillary Clinton's campaign, the Democratic National Committee, Fusion GPS, and foreign agent Christopher Steele to compile his infamous "dossier".

Yeah, I know: what's the use? It's not like Obummer would reply any differently than when he flat-out lied to Wallace before.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/07/f...to-fbi-director-about-pending-investigations/

 

[RobDownSouth]

I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say there. I have one word for you just the same:

Pending....

He's not exactly sure either.

All he knows is there is a chance to splutter in outrage against Obama, which means maybe THIS time AJ will notice and take him back into his arms, holding him close to his bosom in a warm, manly, loving embrace.

 

[Wrong Element]

I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say there. I have one word for you just the same:

Pending....

I tried to diagram that sentence, and it looked like the result of a kitten playing with a ball of yarn.


Maybe the Trump Defense Squad should have written up their latest breathless lunacy as another memo; they could have gamed the legit media into covering it as a real story again.

 

[BobBalouski]

Of course, as long as we're posting about the despicable lying by bozos in the statistly corrupt Obama administration and Billary's criminal email debacle, it's always fun to reair Obama's FBI Director James Comey (himself a proven liar) pinpointing exactly what Hillary expansively lied about under oath:

Comey challenges truthfulness of Clinton's email defenses
https://www.politico.com/blogs/jame...07/clinton-untrue-statements-fbi-comey-225216

Obama + Clinton + Lynch + Holder + Comey + Clapper + Brennan = STATIST, deep state, LIARS

 

[OldJourno]

Pssst.

*whispers* That is why it’s called “opposition” research.

Pssst. *whispers* The point is that the dossier is a work of fiction, the FBI never verified any information in it, yet it was used to obtain FISA warrants.

 

[Que]

Pssst. *whispers* The point is that the dossier is a work of fiction, the FBI never verified any information in it, yet it was used to obtain FISA warrants.

There was no "research" either. It was a commissioned work of fiction. Steele was hired to take the bits of brainstorming by Blumenthal and give it the prose of an actual intelligence brief.

 

[Luk]

Two things confuse Que - facts and bullshit.

 

[William_James]

Philosopher Harry Frankfurt, in his essay On Bullshit, attempts a rigorous philosophical definition of bullshit. For Frankfurt, this consists of drawing a sharp distinction between a bullshitter and a liar; the difference being that a liar cares enough about the truth to state known falsehoods, whereas a bullshitter does not care because some other goal is paramount. "Liars at least acknowledge that it matters what is true. By virtue of this, Frankfurt writes, bullshit is a greater enemy of the truth than lies are."

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Bullshit

 

[Que]

I’m not exactly sure what you are trying to say there. I have one word for you just the same:

Pending....

This is a scandal. How dramatic of a scandal it is, remains to be seen. No matter how dramatic this scandal turns out to be you're going to try minimize it and say it's nothing. It is nothing to the base, regardless. Same as Trump shooting someone would be nothing to his base. I'm by no means naive about the idea that all political operatives deflect, deny, and dissemble.

It will impact independants. To what extend it does that, depends entirely on how deep this scandal ends up being. On your side, as I mentioned, it will be nothing literally nothing. . . no matter what is uncovered.

My point is: to whatever extent the scandal unfolds, Obama is clearly implicated in *it.* You can pretend, deny, and deflect all you want, but this went all the way to the top whatever *it* is.

 

[BobBalouski]

Pssst. *whispers* The point is that the dossier is a work of fiction, the FBI never verified any information in it, yet it was used to obtain FISA warrants.

Undeniably and totally paid for by the Clinton campaign and the DNC (and possibly even by Obama for America), compiled by an unregistered foreign agent, whose "sources" were almost entirely housed within Vladimir Putin's government.

 

[Aglaopheme]

What has been verified so far:

Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.

Page vehemently denied that he met with Sechin. But in November, the House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of Page’s congressional testimony revealing he had in fact met with other Rosneft officials, including Sechin's subordinate Andrey Baranov, during a trip to Moscow in 2016.

According to the dossier, Rosneft officials used their meeting with Page to push for the U.S. to lift sanctions on Russia for its support of armed separatist groups in eastern Ukraine. It is now known that the Trump administration sought to water down a proposed Republican Party commitment to send “lethal weapons” to Ukraine’s army to fight off the Russian-backed separatists.

Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.

Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
Emails released in July revealed that Agalarov’s publicist Rob Goldstone had written to Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., to set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer who supposedly had dirt on Hillary Clinton, as part of what Goldstone called "Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump." Trump Jr. attended a Trump Tower meeting with the lawyer in June 2016 along with Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. That meeting has become a major focus of the investigations into the Trump campaign. Goldstone allegedly organized the meeting at Emin Agalarov's behest.

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

 

[Que]

Well.

Shit.

"Maintains ties to. . ."

That looks like checkmate!

I guess game over, then?