So what is the real reason maga hates foreign wars?

[BrightShinyGirl]

Ultimately, DonOld is going to do what Putin tells him to do; full stop.

I think mostly Trump is angling to take credit for Israel's victories.

 

[Lazaran]

I think mostly Trump is angling to take credit for Israel's victories.

DonOld can do that ^ while still doing exactly what Putin tells him to do when it comes to active U.S. engagement in Iran.

Related:

DonOld STILL hasn’t sanctioned Russia.

Weird…





We. Told. Them. So.

 

[Lazaran]

Putin likes his Iranian drones. He's bought plenty of them and I don't think would take kindly to his supply drying up

First off: Fuck Putin.

Second: Russia has taken over production and innovation of drones that originally were designed & built in Iran. I’m sure Iran is still providing some drones, etc, to Russia, but nothing that is a game changer.

Again: Fuck Putin.

 

[cdstefi]

First off: Fuck Putin.

Second: Russia has taken over production and innovation of drones that originally were designed & built in Iran. I’m sure Iran is still providing some drones, etc, to Russia, but nothing that is a game changer.

Again: Fuck Putin.

I mean I don't disagree on that. He must have some really good kompromat on the tangerine palpatine to have him so onside.

Imagine being a traitor, knowing you're a traitor and still playing the patriot game for all it's worth for the sake of your idiot voting base. How hollow an experience that must be.

 

[Bray123]

Ultimately, DonOld is going to do what Putin tells him to do; full stop.



Also:

A bunker buster strike on Fordo in no way locks the U.S. into a prolonged war with / in Iran. If anything, it could (would) probably resolve a major point of contention - though, admittedly, it is less than optimal; A regime change (with the new regime allowing for a complete removal of bomb making materials & dismantling of enrichment infrastructure) would be optimal.

That of course depends on what Iran thinks of having the shit bombed out of their very expensive infrastructure with the inevitable deaths involved.

Maybe Japan thought that bombing Pearl Harbor wouldn't mean a prolonged war.

 

[Politruk]

I mean I don't disagree on that. He must have some really good kompromat on the tangerine palpatine to have him so onside.

The pee tape would not suffice. Putin must have dirt tying Trump to the Russian Mafiya.

Is there any NYC real-estate developer without such connections, to Mafiya or plain old Mafia?

 

[Lazaran]

That of course depends on what Iran thinks of having the shit bombed out of their very expensive infrastructure with the inevitable deaths involved.

Maybe Japan thought that bombing Pearl Harbor wouldn't mean a prolonged war.

Iran could obviously choose to do something else stupid (just like when they chose to enrich their uranium to 60% weapons grade, and when they funded their proxies to “boil Israel like a frog”), but that didn’t work out too well for Iran (or Iran’s proxies). And that was when it was only Israel that was involved in major offensive operations.

Of course, the U.S. and Israel COULD: leave the job half-done; leave the mullahs in charge, and then hope that Iran doesn’t rapidly develop a nuclear weapon…after Iran was just pummeled to the brink by Israel’s superior conventional weapons…

Talk about stupid…



I would also add:

If the U.S. did take out Fordo, then the Israelis would have little justification to continue with their assaults on other Iranian infrastructure (unless it was related to Iran’s nuclear ambitions, or, if Iran did escalate things.

“One Big Beautiful Bomb” could possibly put an end to this round of fighting. It worked with Japan in WWII.

 

[RobDownSouth]

https://imgur.com/o9yP6XW

The reason the US is the richest country is because we don't have "Scandanavian living standards."

Someone has to pay for those "Scandanavian living standards" and that mean taxes. Which are based on not only the redistribution of the taxes back to the people who pay them, but ALSO the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution.

America understands that you get more, and it's cheaper overall, for you to DIY when it comes to personal financial health and comfort.

America has no single-payer healthcare. The rich can afford it, penniless bums such as yourself depend upon the vagaries of poorly funded government health care.

Single payer would solve that.

 

[HisArpy]

America has no single-payer healthcare. The rich can afford it, penniless bums such as yourself depend upon the vagaries of poorly funded government health care.

Single payer would solve that.

Lol. Good ol' rubbery, a day late and a brain short.

 

[Politruk]

The reason the US is the richest country is because we don't have "Scandanavian living standards."

Someone has to pay for those "Scandanavian living standards" and that mean taxes. Which are based on not only the redistribution of the taxes back to the people who pay them, but ALSO the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution.

Funny, that's not how it goes in Scandinavia.

 

[HisArpy]

Funny, that's not how it goes in Scandinavia.

Lol, Grok says otherwise.

Important Note: While Scandinavia is often cited as a model for high living standards, it's important to acknowledge that it also has a high cost of living. The high taxes and prices for goods and services are a trade-off for the benefits of the social welfare system and high quality of life.

Basically, you just got owned AGAIN for being EXTREMELY stupid in public.

 

[Politruk]

Lol, Grok says otherwise.



Basically, you just got owned AGAIN for being EXTREMELY stupid in public.

Oh, of course they have high taxes. But how much do they actually spend on "the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution"?

The success of a nation's economy should not be judged by its GDP, nor (as many conservatives and Libertarians seem to think) by government spending as a percentage of GDP. It should be judged by what it's like to live there -- by the average standard of living, and by how low the poverty rate is. They outperform the U.S.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Lol. Good ol' rubbery, a day late and a brain short.

Thank you for your daily dose of ad hominem.

I continue to pray for the disintegration of your spinal column, so that your physical body will match your mental disintegration.

Keep poppin' those Vicodin and Oxys while you can, buddy.

DOGE mandates call for eliminating opioids from the VA formulary soon (since all veterans requiring opioids are basically junkies in the first place), making you dependent on "Blues" (fentanyl) once more.

 

[HisArpy]

Thank you for your daily dose of ad hominem.

I continue to pray for the disintegration of your spinal column, so that your physical body will match your mental disintegration.

Keep poppin' those Vicodin and Oxys while you can, buddy.

DOGE mandates call for eliminating opioids from the VA formulary soon (since all veterans requiring opioids are basically junkies in the first place), making you dependent on "Blues" (fentanyl) once more.

Of course you do, the gentle caring soul that you are could do nothing more.

 

[HisArpy]

Oh, of course they have high taxes. But how much do they actually spend on "the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution"?

The success of a nation's economy should not be judged by its GDP, nor (as many conservatives and Libertarians seem to think) by government spending as a percentage of GDP. It should be judged by what it's like to live there -- by the average standard of living, and by how low the poverty rate is. They outperform the U.S.

Ahh, but the FACT IS that I said they have high taxes and you said;

Funny, that's not how it goes in Scandinavia.

Strange how you change your tune when you've been shown to be a LYING stupid shit in public.

 

[Politruk]

Ahh, but the FACT IS that I said they have high taxes and you said;



Strange how you change your tune when you've been shown to be a LYING stupid shit in public.

I was referring to "the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution". Don't think that happens in Scandinavia. Their governments, in fact, are probably more efficient than ours.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

The crazed MTG all of a sudden opens her mouth to criticize the felon.

Link to her post
https://imgbox.com/lCgVGWqX


Isn't it interesting how MAGA folks, like her , get all fired up against foreign wars, especially when she called him out for even thinking about Iran, but they don’t seem to mind the endless drama and fights happening right here in the US?

“No more foreign wars,” she says… but what about the civil wars on Twitter and in real life? Is it perhaps they would rather engage in domestic wars against the people they detest? Hypocrisy much? Drop your thoughts!

They didn't hate them when the Bushes started two completely unnecessary "foreign" wars.

I think they developed this as a political point against Obama, Biden and the Dems in general when they couldn't figure out anything else to use against them. Since then it's just become a thoughtless knee jerk political slogan for the MAGA idiots.

 

[Carnal_Flower]

They didn't hate them when the Bushes started two completely unnecessary "foreign" wars.

I think they developed this as a political point against Obama, Biden and the Dems in general when they couldn't figure out anything else to use against them. Since then it's just become a thoughtless knee jerk political slogan for the MAGA idiots.

PLus, Trump took it up as a coded racist slur against Obama. The blay-ucks are foreign and like foreign things.

 

[stxjimmy]

The reason the US is the richest country is because we don't have "Scandanavian living standards."

Someone has to pay for those "Scandanavian living standards" and that mean taxes. Which are based on not only the redistribution of the taxes back to the people who pay them, but ALSO the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution.

America understands that you get more, and it's cheaper overall, for you to DIY when it comes to personal financial health and comfort.

Rather disproved when one considers the cost of us education and healthcare.

 

[Politruk]

I was referring to "the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution". Don't think that happens in Scandinavia. Their governments, in fact, are probably more efficient than ours.

And definitely more efficient than ours after DOGE.

 

[HisArpy]

I was referring to "the paychecks for the legion of do-nothing government employees who work for the office of government redistribution". Don't think that happens in Scandinavia. Their governments, in fact, are probably more efficient than ours.

More of your lying evasions after being caught saying shit that's fake.

 

[HisArpy]

Rather disproved when one considers the cost of us education and healthcare.

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing. Not that it matters, the only way any society gets "Skandinavian living standards" is to pay more in taxes. It doesn't matter if it's free healthcare, free education, free money, the ONLY way you get there is to take it away from workers and give it to noncontribs in the form of higher taxes.

In general, I'm against taxes. I unbend when it comes to roads, police/fire, and general services. OTOH, I have this thing about taking what's mine to give to other people who don't earn it.

 

[stxjimmy]

Not sure if you're agreeing or disagreeing. Not that it matters, the only way any society gets "Skandinavian living standards" is to pay more in taxes. It doesn't matter if it's free healthcare, free education, free money, the ONLY way you get there is to take it away from workers and give it to noncontribs in the form of higher taxes.

In general, I'm against taxes. I unbend when it comes to roads, police/fire, and general services. OTOH, I have this thing about taking what's mine to give to other people who don't earn it.

A little of both, of course education and healthcare cost however they’re delivered but doing it communally at least makes sure everyone has some.

 

[HisArpy]

A little of both, of course education and healthcare cost however they’re delivered but doing it communally at least makes sure everyone has some.

Certain social services benefit society as a whole. However, there are things that only benefit a specific class at the expense of society overall.

The humorous part is those who advocate for these things are also the same people who tell us that 'trickle down economics' doesn't work.

To put into context, they want to tax everyone so that the government can 'trickle down' that money back to the people. It's ludicrous.

 

[stxjimmy]

Certain social services benefit society as a whole. However, there are things that only benefit a specific class at the expense of society overall.

The humorous part is those who advocate for these things are also the same people who tell us that 'trickle down economics' doesn't work.

To put into context, they want to tax everyone so that the government can 'trickle down' that money back to the people. It's ludicrous.

Trickle down doesn’t work, it’s been 50 yrs now and if it did we’d have noticed.

And access to public school education leads generally to good careers. Personally I object to that being subsidised by everyone else.