So, Ulaven Demorte says that accusing the Government of treason is Anti-American

[Le Jacquelope]

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25041310&postcount=137

I'm not sure what you mean by politcs.

So far you've tossed in your load with Crazynice the Anti-American Conspiracy theorist (also veryknowing among a myriad of others) and LT. This does not speak highly of your intelligence level.

But then, you set the bar so very low in choosing your Lit name that you haven't yet disappointed.

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25041872&postcount=181

Of course you don't see anything Anti-American about Crazynice. Just as members of a cult don't really see that they are being duped into believing utter nonsense and giving away everything they have to a headcase. You've bought the entire "The American government is being controlled by a shadow organization that staged the attacks on 9/11" complete line of bullshit.

It makes it so clean that way. it's not the American people who are bad, just the government. Except that America is a democracy, a government "of the people, by the people".

As an American I can bitch and moan about my government as much as I want. I have an active stake, and a say in how it's run.

Reminds me of an old movie (paraphrased)
"I can call my wife a bitch all I want, but you damned well better keep your comments to yourself or you'll get a fist upside the head."

Let's look at Ulaven Demented's logic:

1) Lovelynice accused the 2001 Bush-run and Republican-run Government of highly treasonous behavior, and of mass murder.
2) America is a democracy, a government "of the people, by the people".
3) Ergo, accusing the 2001 Bush-run and Republican-run Government of treason and mass murder, is the same as hating America.

The "accuse the Government of treason = hating America" argument that UD is pushing is idiotic enough without considering the fact that Lovelynice's accusations are aimed primarily at the right wing anti-freedom faction who would be TOTALLY motivated to pull the conspiracy she's alleging happened.

So what ever happened to "I love my country but I fear my Government"?

 

[TurdFergeson]

Well, good thing he wasn't around during the days of Benedict Arnold.

 

[Ham Murabi]

I read the thread title. I read the post.
As usual in your case, LT, the two are in conflict.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I read the thread title. I read the post.
As usual in your case, LT, the two are in conflict.

Lovelynice is accusing the Government of treason, dumbass.

If what she says is true, that is the charges that should be brought.

Your reading skills are in conflict with reality.

 

[emap]

Loving I swear you really are an old goof.

Staying out of the whole politics thing, the people on both sides of this crap won't listen to anything except what they beleive so why bother.

You know actually there is a third group, I suppose I am a part of it, there is the government isn't broke group, there is the government killed us because they could get something out of it, what I have no clue, nobody has said. Oh and the third group is the government is fucking broken though the rest of the country is sorta OK group.

Almost tempted to say a fourth group, but the corporations are running the country people mostly are the same ideas as the government killed us group so they are getting lumped.

If you happen too be offended by the lumping, well dang to bad your lumped.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Loving I swear you really are an old goof.

Staying out of the whole politics thing, the people on both sides of this crap won't listen to anything except what they beleive so why bother.

You know actually there is a third group, I suppose I am a part of it, there is the government isn't broke group, there is the government killed us because they could get something out of it, what I have no clue, nobody has said. Oh and the third group is the government is fucking broken though the rest of the country is sorta OK group.

Almost tempted to say a fourth group, but the corporations are running the country people mostly are the same ideas as the government killed us group so they are getting lumped.

If you happen too be offended by the lumping, well dang to bad your lumped.

I'm interested in knowing how low the GB will go to define 'anti-American'.

 

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[Le Jacquelope]

The definition of treason is found in the Constitution. That is the only legal definition of treason against the United States. Her accusations are preposterous lies and you're own prejudice keeps you from seeing it.

Off topic as usual. How does what she's doing qualify as Anti-American?

Remember, bucko, you're known for accusing the Government of conspiracies whenever Democrats are in power.

 

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[Roses_N_Lavender]

http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25041310&postcount=137


http://forum.literotica.com/showpost.php?p=25041872&postcount=181





Let's look at Ulaven Demented's logic:

1) Lovelynice accused the 2001 Bush-run and Republican-run Government of highly treasonous behavior, and of mass murder.
2) America is a democracy, a government "of the people, by the people".
3) Ergo, accusing the 2001 Bush-run and Republican-run Government of treason and mass murder, is the same as hating America.

The "accuse the Government of treason = hating America" argument that UD is pushing is idiotic enough without considering the fact that Lovelynice's accusations are aimed primarily at the right wing anti-freedom faction who would be TOTALLY motivated to pull the conspiracy she's alleging happened.

So what ever happened to "I love my country but I fear my Government"?

This place is a bazaar of the bizarre

Since when has it been "anti-american" to support everything the national consititution and it's founding fathers ever stood for?

Glad I'm not American, but I bet that your McCarthyite maniacs on this board aren't really Americans either.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

I am, name one.

Vince Foster. Your constant implication that Democrats are in on some communist conspiracy. And so on.

She's running a known propaganda mill which she knows is bullshit. I'm not questioning her right to be so inclined but let's call it what it is...it is anti-American. Would you call her posts pro-American? Wait don't answer.

Anti-American? How?

She accuses the government of treason (and murdering 3000 people would be treason). How is that anti-American? It may be anti-Bush or anti-Government but it isn't anti-America. It isn't anti-Constitution or anti-you and me. She's not proposing we surrender to a foreign power.

You've failed to define what anti-American is.

 

[Roses_N_Lavender]

I am, name one.

She's running a known propaganda mill which she knows is bullshit. I'm not questioning her right to be so inclined but let's call it what it is...it is anti-American. Would you call her posts pro-American? Wait don't answer.

Maybe if you could define what you mean by anti-american

When you have the definition, the there would be something to debate.

It appears that you are just anti-Lovelynice and she's done and said nothing "anti-american"

Maybe, you're more "anti-american" than she is? Is that why you won't give a definition?

 

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[Le Jacquelope]

She's not an American for one thing, and I do think she is teeing off on America. That's my sense of it.

I don't believe I've posted a damn word in regard to Vince Foster, correct me if I'm wrong, and present Democrats do have a lot of communistic ideas. You might not agree but that's okay too.

Nope. Wrong again. She's teeing off on Bush and the neo cons, not all of America.

 

[Bestlife]

Well, good thing he wasn't around during the days of Benedict Arnold.

TurdFergeson = LT= BB

 

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[Roses_N_Lavender]

Why don't you post under your usual name alt?

why don't you post an definition of anti-american, alt?

what is my 'usual name'? Do you mean I should post with my real life name? Get buggered,

You're stalling. Post a definition of anti-american.

 

[Le Jacquelope]

Why don't you post under your usual name alt?

Who do you think registered that nickname back in 2005?

 

[Bestlife]

She knows her accusations are false, so I think her goal is to smear the country.

Smear it with what? cream cheese??

 

[Le Jacquelope]

TurdFergeson = LT= BB

Bestlife = bent = Ishmael

See? Everyone can play that game!

 

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[Le Jacquelope]

Probably you.

Lemme guess.. do we file this under a lie, or hyperbole?

 

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[Roses_N_Lavender]

Who do you think registered that nickname back in 2005?

Me probably. I didn't see anyone else typing on the keyboard at the time. It could've been the cat doing it secretly while I was asleep, but i don't believe that advertisement or the one with the dog in it.