So, this is how it's going to play out...

Leverage said:
You know what...I've come to the realization that its almost pointless to try and discuss or talk truthfully with a majority of the members of this forum.

Well to be fair, it is if you have a history of lying isn't it?
 
~Fata Morgana~ said:
Well to be fair, it is if you have a history of lying isn't it?

Yes, that is a fair statement but considering all the players involved, my situation cannot be anymore or less questionable than theirs.

Peace...
 
Leverage said:
Yes, that is a fair statement but considering all the players involved, my situation cannot be anymore or less questionable than theirs.

Peace...


Nope, I'm not singling you out on your own Leverage - I haven't really taken that much notice of your own particular drama/altfest. But all the recent uproar over posters on here has been brought about by their own lies and deception.

I have little sympathy. You reap what you sow. People don't like being lied to, in any shape or form.
 
Morcheeba said:
Oh fuck off and die, Setti!

Wait, that was weak.

I should do a search on links from Jazzmin, Ms. Sharon and Kathyann and read all the vile, absurd, nastyass insluts that Leverage made up about others in here for some real bone-crunching putdowns. Yo.

The way you talk its almost like I was the very first person to ever use an insult on the GB...really. I guess this place was just a pardigm of virtue before my time. :rolleyes:
 
Leverage said:
Truthfully, I gave up the whole third person jazz a while back. As I am sure you're aware that its was just a part of that persona. I know you are just posting here for a joke but I just wanted to clarify...

Peace...


now now, that's not true. you've been using the third person references pretty much continuously. here's a thread you started just a few days ago. but who's counting really.
 
Leverage said:
The way you talk its almost like I was the very first person to ever use an insult on the GB...really. I guess this place was just a pardigm of virtue before my time. :rolleyes:

That's paragon, dead guy, paragon.
 
~Fata Morgana~ said:
Nope, I'm not singling you out on your own Leverage - I haven't really taken that much notice of your own particular drama/altfest. But all the recent uproar over posters on here has been brought about by their own lies and deception.

I have little sympathy. You reap what you sow. People don't like being lied to, in any shape or form.

Well then, taking your last statement at face value I would venture to guess that 90% of the GB has issues.
 
sweetvee said:
now now, that's not true. you've been using the third person references pretty much continuously. here's a thread you started just a few days ago. but who's counting really.

OK, you got me...two third person references.
 
Leverage said:
You know what...I've come to the realization that its almost pointless to try and discuss or talk truthfully with a majority of the members of this forum. loveumore, whatever you may believe...I pmed you because after scanning the JK thread your name was the last to post at the time and I thought that we were at least civil (in a message board type of way). FYI: I pmed JK as well and got the same cookie cutter response that she apparently sent out to several GBers...no suprise there. And if you remember correctly, I have always been nothing but nice to you...going back to your Daisy May days even when folks were calling me crazy for being nice to someone who they described as a "racist c*nt." I felt like since you have never done anything to me personally, I did not have a reason to be mean to you. Obviously most folks don't feel the same. Also, I'm going to go out on a limb here because I'm thinking that based on your past experiences on and off line, you are admittedly skeptical of anyone that shows you any interest or that is nice to you in the least...especially on the GB where the motives for ones actions are most times in question. But remember, everyone does not have a motive...even on the internet.

Well, at least that finally sunk in. I don't like a lot of attention, especially when it's too much kindness. I run like hell. And I know it sounds weird, but I lived a real fucked up life, and I don't want to get into any details. I'll tell you this much, I'm working on it the best I can.

As far as the racist remark, I no longer feel I have to explain myself. It's been done too many times. I've even done it to white people, and it's well in the past. I promised that I'd start this New Year being more positive, and treating myself and others with more kindness and respect, and *I* believe I'm doing a fine job. That's all that really matters. Me. I know I'm not completely there yet, but I know damn well I'm trying.

Fear controls many.

And with that being said, do you honestly think it breaks my heart when someone throws an insult my way? No, it's been going on since the day I was born. It's all I know, bud. So as you can see, I've got a long way to go, but at least I know where the problem is.

Now, going back to accusing you of being Jennifer, I'm sorry, but that's still my opinion. You both stole pictures and claimed to be people you're not, and many of your threads (even alts) are constantly flattering Jennifer. It leaves me suspicious. Oh well. You won't prove who you are on cam, and neither will Jenn, so there's nothing we can do here, is there?

I know nobody has to prove a thing here, but it sure as hell would help your situation out. Well, at least some of it.
 
Well, at least that finally sunk in. I don't like a lot of attention, especially when it's too much kindness. I run like hell. And I know it sounds weird, but I lived a real fucked up life, and I don't want to get into any details. I'll tell you this much, I'm working on it the best I can.

Like I said before, the attention that you received from me was sincere. I was attracted to you based on what little that I've seen of you. Nothing more, nothing less. I don't want anything from you.

As far as the racist remark, I no longer feel I have to explain myself. It's been done too many times. I've even done it to white people, and it's well in the past. I promised that I'd start this New Year being more positive, and treating myself and others with more kindness and respect, and *I* believe I'm doing a fine job. That's all that really matters. Me. I know I'm not completely there yet, but I know damn well I'm trying.

You never directed any of those remarks my way and all I can say with certainty is that as far as I know those things are hersay.

Fear controls many.

And with that being said, do you honestly think it breaks my heart when someone throws an insult my way? No, it's been going on since the day I was born. It's all I know, bud. So as you can see, I've got a long way to go, but at least I know where the problem is.

I understand what you are saying here but my story is not the same. I'm not used to insults as being the norm and when I hear them it makes me believe that the person behind them are deliberately attempting to inflect pain on the receiver. However, I soon realized that LIT is just a big soup of insults being tossed around like yesterday's newspaper UNLESS those insults are by someone that the LIT in crowd does not approve of...ie Jazzmin/Ms. Sharon/KathyAnn.

Now, going back to accusing you of being Jennifer, I'm sorry, but that's still my opinion. You both stole pictures and claimed to be people you're not, and many of your threads (even alts) are constantly flattering Jennifer. It leaves me suspicious. Oh well. You won't prove who you are on cam, and neither will Jenn, so there's nothing we can do here, is there?

I can understand your suspicions but I can say with all honesty that I amm not Jennifer Kaye. I don't know if you have read the history of how my alts were exposed but I'm sure if you do you will come to the same conclusion.

I know nobody has to prove a thing here, but it sure as hell would help your situation out. Well, at least some of it.

I don't know why JK will not post a pic...probably the same reason as me and RH and countless others. I will never cam or post a pic on the GB...plain and simple. If you still think that I am JK well, that's on you but I assure you that I am not. Anyway, my opinion of you has not changed...I still think that you are a beautiful woman that's been mostly misunderstood, hurt and for the most part treated badly apparently on and off line. I hope that one day soon you will be in a position where you can accept kindness with not thought of anything else involved.

Peace...
 
Leverage said:
OK...

This morning I log on to LIT and immediately I'm drawn to this Q and A with Jennifer Kaye thread. First, I think that its just an old thread that someone has bumped in an attempt to further make a mockery of the whole Jennifer Kaye incident then I get to reading the thread. Seems as if quite a lot of banter went back and forth on yesterday with Jennifer Kaye and the rest of the GB and even though I had nothing to do with this drama, MY name was brought up almost as much as the accused.

In response to this, I would like to say that first off...Jennifer Kaye, I thought you were leaving LIT. Judging from the posts in the thread yesterday it seems as if you are planning no such thing and that you are using deflection and any other reliable means to continue to deny and rationalize your actions. I quoted you above because you seem to think that MY actions were somehow worse than yours have been. I don't think so...

For those that don't remember lets review...Leverage was found out to have a total of four alts...Jazzmin, Ms. Sharon, KathyAnn and SexyAmy29. The first two were actual individuals' pics used with their permission for the purposes of website advertisment (and it worked). Kathy Ann was created as result of backlash etc. and SexyAmy29 was just a blip on the radar.

Jennifer Kaye on the other hand was the very person that betrayed ME in the whole alt thing. Jennifer Kaye told RH and Morchy who in turn told KyleW in a pm fiasco who then exposed the truth behind the above alts. Then, JK turns around and makes an apology thread stating that she is a hypocrite and blah, blah, blah and everyone forgives her.

Now, we fast forward to the present and we find conclusively that JK is actually not the JK we thought she was. As it turns out, the actual person that JK is claiming to be comes to the board and posts a pic and a sign calling JK a liar. As it seems, JK has been playing this role for at least two years. My question to you JK is how can you claim that I am worse than you when you perputrated a total sham and fraud for at least two years...not to mention you were the one that so-called exposed me. JK, I would like some clarification regarding this...

Another thing, in reading that thread...I noticed that many of the GB supported JK in this whole ordeal saying things like "its big of you to come clean" and "learn from this and move on." Where was that kind of support when I was accused of having alts? Seems like even when I came clean with a detailed explaination, I was still being attacked while JK receives yet another pass. Inequity at its best. Seems as if the almost the only GBers to call her on this have been KyleW and loveumore and that's mainly because they are convinced that I am JK...which is foolish.

Frankly, loveumore...you should be the last person to talk about anything alt related. Everyone here knows that you have at least ten screen names and everyone knows of your past dealings on the GB. We all know the sorted past bewteen you and Lady F. We all know how you threatened her, drove to her house, took pictures and threatened to post them on the GB...we all know this. No matter what I have done on the GB, nothing and I mean nothing can compare to the real life stalker syndrome you experienced with Lady F. So the next time you feel like speaking on alts, think again.

Peace...

"Sordid."
 
KyleW said:
Maybe if you weren't a complete douchebag you'd have gotten some support. But you're a self serving pile of dog shit. And you're told about how you put people off with your idiotic ways of talking and you still ignore it. So you don't want to change, ever. Asshat.

To sum up, I don't think you and JK are the same. It's possible, but not likely. I do think you're both annoying twats though.

Fuck off and die.

Signed,

Every human on earth.


Leverage said:
That's your problem dude...you take this message board too seriously. Using words like "fuck off and die" are pretty harsh terms to use...even if on the internet. You know what dude, that shows that you care a great deal about LIT, the GB and your own little cyber world. A couple of alts got on your nerves soo bad that you wish they would "fuck off and die." Your actions on the GB show that your world is wrapped around the lives of these other cyber-heads online. You must be a pretty sad individual to just sit around all day and make plans regarding what GBer you're going to expose on any given day. Get something more productive to occupy your time dude...you're gonna stress yourself out.

Peace...


Actually, that was a pretty good comeback. Hit the nail right on the head.
 
Leverage said:
As it turns out, the actual person that JK is claiming to be comes to the board and posts a pic and a sign calling JK a liar. As it seems, JK has been playing this role for at least two years.

link plzthnx
 
Morcheeba said:
Oh fuck off and die, Setti!

Wait, that was weak.

I should do a search on links from Jazzmin, Ms. Sharon and Kathyann and read all the vile, absurd, nastyass insluts that Leverage made up about others in here for some real bone-crunching putdowns. Yo.


If I go ahead and fuck off, it seems like that ought to be enough. Don't know why I'd have to go so far as to die, too.
 
Hey you gutless wonder.

I guess since you spent your entire time as Kathy "I'm a tranny" Ann insulting the board, you must care deeply and spend hours thinking this shit up.

Suck a cock douchebag.
 
I can understand your suspicions but I can say with all honesty that I amm not Jennifer Kaye. I don't know if you have read the history of how my alts were exposed but I'm sure if you do you will come to the same conclusion.

The funny this is, everything you've said to me in this thread is exactly how Jann's friend spoke to me in pm's. Again, that leaves me suspicious that you were that person as well. I believe this person's account has been deleted because her/his name in my inbox comes up as Jann******** now. I don't have the link handy to post the profile.

But anyway, of course I read about those alts. I've been on Lit for over 3 1/2 years. :cool:

I couldn't play like that. You should really try out for an acting job, or maybe a comedian.
 
Well maybe he thinks you're one of those easy middle aged white women he was talking about.
 
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