So, Roy Jones Jr won WBA heavy weight title, ha?

[Guest]

Poor Ruiz. Beaten by a natural born middle weight. He'll be a laughing stock now for sure.

I could almost hear the eye balls of promorters and Vegas money men going chi-ching! ($)_($)

Tyson v Jones Jr? It'll be big, big money. (Vegas now has got lid of the conservatives and encouraging iron Mike to re-apply for the license) Tyson is actually shorter than Jones Jr.

Lewis v Jones Jr? Lennox is a class boxer and too big for Jones Jr. There is no incentive for Lennox to face Roy apart from money. Lennox don't want to be like Ruiz.

Hollyfield v Jones Jr? Money: yes. Evender is not a big man and too old. The Easiest big money for Roy.

 

[Bogey77]

I missed that fight last night. Did Roy Jones toy with him like he usually does? I have seen him fight a couple of times, and while he clearly wins the fights, he never seems to want to knock anyone out.

 

[nimbus9]

Roy Joes is a tough mother. He won a split decision but if he doesn't take out the big boys in the first three or four rounds he won't win. Those legitimate Heavy's will take his best punch and not blink.

 

[Guest]

Bogey, it went the distance. Roy boxed. I assume, basically danced like Ali.

nimbus, I thought it was unanimus decision.

I agree on your take, but Roy can jab and dance against Tyson and Hollyfield. He's really quick with hands and reflex.

Lennox is another matter. The Jamacan-Canadian-Londoner can box. You don't win Olympic Gold if you can't.

 

[nimbus9]

I didn't see the fight. I thought I heard "split" but I was burning one at the time.

Yes, you won't win all the marbles if you can't knock out the champion or beat the dog out of him. Dancing don't get it.
I hope he don't get hurt.

 

[Guest]

I disagree. Dancing is an art form. Sure any of genuin world class heavy weights can knock jones Jr out with a punch or two. Finding the target (i.e. Roy's chin) is the problem.

Tyson is too erratic now. Evender is too slow. I reckon Lennox is the only one who are throwing accurate and fast enough punches to find Roy's chin.

 

[Liontamr]

I like Jones Jr, but against Lewis he wouldn't last five rounds. Lewis of all of them knows how to truly box. And if either Tyson or Evander land one solid punch to Roy's grill, it's over. As CV said though Lewis may be the only one with the ability to land that punch.

And yes Roy did hot dog against Ruiz.. It was funny and all, but I keep thinking if he does that once against Lewis, the next thing Roy will be doing is looking for his jaw in the sixth row.

 

[Guest]

the next thing Roy will be doing is looking for his jaw in the sixth row.

LOL

Good one.

 

[Frimost]

Roy Jones Jr. said this was the first and last fight for him in the heavyweight division. So look for him to vacate the title as he moves back down in weight (199-pounds at fight night) and in division (back to Light Heavyweight).

 

[Frimost]

Bogey, it went the distance. Roy boxed. I assume, basically danced like Ali.

Wrong, he stood and fought, he boxed-yes, but also brawled a bit just to show everyone that he can take a punch and hurt Ruiz as well.

Jones, a former middleweight and super middleweight title holder, won the WBA heavyweight title by fighting like a heavyweight, not a 160 pounder. He stood his ground, he took the few solid shots Ruiz landed, and he easily avoided the other punches.

Jones earned earned Ruiz's respect with his unexpected power. And then his skills and phenomenal speed took over.

In the second and third rounds, Jones landed crisp hooks while backing up and scored with sharp rights while stepping in. Jones landed an uppercut in the fourth that splattered Ruiz's nose, covering the heavyweight's face in blood.

 

[sweet soft kiss]

I refuse to watch boxing anymore... (although I think amature boxing is okay)... but pro boxing has become as fixed and showcased as pro wrestling... IMHO of course

 

[Guest]

Roy is a careful man. He never took a big risk except this Ruiz fight. If he is really serious aboutprooving he'sthe best, he should go back down to the Super middle weight where the heat is on right now.

Americans seem to think Hopkins is the man in that devision but the Brits would back Joe C. (WBC champ with something like 33-0-0 30KO. I can never spell his Welish-Italian name)

 

[Frimost]

It depends on who the promoter is, some of the Tyson fights were fixed I think, for example Bruce Seldon, although not a great fighter went down wwwwaaaayyyy too easy in his title fight with Tyson during Iron Mike's comeback tour.

Don King is the slipperiest snake the sullies boxing's name and reputation the most.

Also, the best boxer in the heavyweight division by far is Chris Bryd, not Lennox Lewis, not that Lennox is bad but he has the Achilles heel of arrogance so some time he egotistically plays down to the competition and will not train before a fight and thus give so much less then he is capable of (examples include the Oliver McCall and Abdul Rahman fight).

Jones gives Ruiz a wake-up call! lol

 

[nimbus9]

I really miss the boxing of the fifties, sixties and seventies. I watch way more old fights than current ones.

 

[Frimost]

Ruiz was a dork, as Roy kept moving up and up in weight while training John kept moving further down and down.

By the time of the fight Roy was 199 and John only 224 pounds. The last fight John was 235-pounds, he should have stayed at that or even moved further up in weight (in muscle) to make Jones shave to overcome that much more of a weight difference.

 

[Lasher]

Wrong, he stood and fought, he boxed-yes, but also brawled a bit just to show everyone that he can take a punch and hurt Ruiz as well.

This is from the AP wire:

The lack of action at times was reflected in ringside punching statistics which showed Jones landing 134 punches -- about 11 a round -- to 89 for Ruiz.

And...

It didn't get much better. Jones began showboating, secure in the knowledge Ruiz couldn't hurt him, and spent much of the fight circling slowly and throwing his left jab and left hook.

Neither fighter was knocked down and neither ever seemed to be in any serious trouble in a fight that drew boos at times from the crowd at the UNLV campus arena because of a lack of action.

 

[Frimost]

Roy is a careful man. He never took a big risk except this Ruiz fight

Wrong, Roy took a huge risk in his fight with James Toney. Toney was the Tyson of middleweight both in dominance, demeanor, personality, attitude, and background. Everyone thought that Roy was going to get his ass handed to him in that one.

Roy already fought Bernard Hopkins, and kicked his ass (long ago).

 

[Guest]

Wrong, Roy took a huge risk in his fight with James Toney. Toney was the Tyson of middleweight both in dominance, demeanor, personality, attitude, and background. Everyone thought that Roy was going to get his ass handed to him in that one.

Roy already fought Bernard Hopkins, and kicked his ass (long ago).

Is that the lights out Toney?

Wasn't Jones scared that he got disqualified because he punched the opponent when he was on the floor?

 

[Frimost]

From The Sporting News website:

LAS VEGAS -- Roy Jones Jr. surprised John Ruiz by not running. There was nothing surprising about the masterful skills he used to become a heavyweight champion.

Just because it may have been slow dose not mean Roy Jones ran away from Ruiz. As for not getting tagged a whole lot, THAT is what a good boxer is supposed to do! This is boxing afterall, not drunken bar brawling.

 

[Frimost]

Wasn't Jones scared that he got disqualified because he punched the opponent when he was on the floor?

You probably thinking of the Montell Griffin fight where he did[/i[ get DQ'ed, which was his only "loss" of his otherwise stellar career.

Roy Jone's record

 

[Spinaroonie]

How did a man win a women's basketball award?

 

[honeylick]

How did a man win a women's basketball award?

title IX backlash

 

[Frimost]

Is that the lights out Toney

That was 'Lights Out' James Toney at the height of his career no less.

 

[Guest]

That was 'Lights Out' James Toney at the height of his career no less.

Of course, Roy knocked the lights out of Toney in the re-match.

LOL

 

[Frimost]