So, apparently, I don't count.

[CandiCame]

Someone mentioned the 'slut' thing- the "I don't sleep with sluts". I got that one today for the first time to.

I think that maybe when you're used to being a slut- the whole amount of emphasis that people put on their potential partners- or on sex in general, is higher then what I would, so it means more to them. It's not even a 'you might have an STD' because I don't- it's some kind of moral superiority thing. They hard-wire think about sex differently then I do. I got insulted, but it was stupid of me to be insulted.

I just have this weird thing where I think that 'bisexual' and 'slut' don't overlap on everyone just because they do on me. You can be one without the other. And I don't understand judging anyone by anything other then core character, but some people have weirder hang-ups then what gender you've fucked in the past- they really do. Check the fetish forum.

I am really sorry you had to go through that.

Kinda a weird thing for your friend to say, though- I always felt so weird when someone introduced me to a chick I knew was uncomfortable. My female friends used to do this all the time. But just the whole, "You guys are gay! You should go be gay together!" is an odd suggestion...

 

[anitacheeky]

My advice is to ignore crass people like that. It can be difficult when they are friends of friends, but people who have opinions like this generally aren't worth bothering with.

 

[Somehowyou]

The other day I was strollin down the street (not

"you're bi? Ugh, I can't believe this. Do you realize it's because of people like you that the lesbian and gay communities have such a bad rep? Pick a sex and stick to it. Don't be a whore for the rest of us. Besides, you don't count."

Lovely. Any thoughts?

It is amazing how judgmental gays can be. They complain about being excluded and ostracized and then they can at times be the least accepting and the most exclusive.

Why does same sex carpet munching or cock sucking have to come with a militant agenda and all this bull shit. Don't let this set you back and if you truely are bi PM me please.

 

[NerdOwl]

I understand the stigmas put over the bisexual community. I also understand why some lesbians and even gays may not like us, but at the same time I'm only asking for the same thing they ask from the straight community: equality without judgement. It sucks ass to think you're aroun people you can trust only to have them bite your head off. I myself have been in a committed relationship with a woman as well as a man. However, they were both monogamouse and I cared for each ofthem deeply. They were relationships, not flings or something to tell others who might get a kick out Of it.

Like I said, I understand the stigma, but I dont understand the stigma over the entire group. Isn't that the hole issue that GLBT us facing as a whole anyway?

 

[Somehowyou]

I understand the stigmas put over the bisexual community. I also understand why some lesbians and even gays may not like us, but at the same time I'm only asking for the same thing they ask from the straight community: equality without judgement. It sucks ass to think you're aroun people you can trust only to have them bite your head off. I myself have been in a committed relationship with a woman as well as a man. However, they were both monogamouse and I cared for each ofthem deeply. They were relationships, not flings or something to tell others who might get a kick out Of it.

Like I said, I understand the stigma, but I dont understand the stigma over the entire group. Isn't that the hole issue that GLBT us facing as a whole anyway?

Great post

 

[Stella_Omega]

I understand the stigmas put over the bisexual community. I also understand why some lesbians and even gays may not like us, but at the same time I'm only asking for the same thing they ask from the straight community: equality without judgement. It sucks ass to think you're aroun people you can trust only to have them bite your head off. I myself have been in a committed relationship with a woman as well as a man. However, they were both monogamouse and I cared for each ofthem deeply. They were relationships, not flings or something to tell others who might get a kick out Of it.

Like I said, I understand the stigma, but I dont understand the stigma over the entire group. Isn't that the hole issue that GLBT us facing as a whole anyway?

Well, in general, gays and lesbians have asked for it-- but haven't much gotten it. If someone has never experienced equality without judgement themselves-- how the hell would they know how to give it?

I say this over and over again, but being gay is not a choice that people make, and it's not some magic wiseness pill. being gay doesn't make someone special. There are assholes and kind folk who are gay, geniuses and dummies, lazy and active-- all kinds of people who also happen to be gay. Likewise, experiencing oppression doesn't make people into wiser people. It just makes them oppressed people-- in addition to whatever their base personality is.

There is no homogeneity. It's a very diverse crowd.

Mostly, ask your friend to never put you in that position again. She cannot predict how someone will react, but she can control her matchmaking impulses.

 

[Safe_Bet]

I understand the stigmas put over the bisexual community. I also understand why some lesbians and even gays may not like us, but at the same time I'm only asking for the same thing they ask from the straight community: equality without judgement. It sucks ass to think you're aroun people you can trust only to have them bite your head off. I myself have been in a committed relationship with a woman as well as a man. However, they were both monogamouse and I cared for each ofthem deeply. They were relationships, not flings or something to tell others who might get a kick out Of it.

Like I said, I understand the stigma, but I dont understand the stigma over the entire group. Isn't that the hole issue that GLBT us facing as a whole anyway?

Not wanting to have sex with you is not taking away your equality, toots. One chick talking smack isn't the same as having laws passed specifically to prevent you from getting married or from visiting your spouse in the hospital. Equality is a hell of a lot more than getting to fuck whomever you want.

Also, please don't fall in to the trap of taking the opinions of one person to be the opinions of the entire gay and lesbian communities.

P.S. Proof read your posts, FFS!

 

[Kurokami]

Well, in general, gays and lesbians have asked for it-- but haven't much gotten it. If someone has never experienced equality without judgement themselves-- how the hell would they know how to give it?

Well, if we lived in a rational universe, then someone should be able to identify behaviours and reactions in others that they dislike, and from there opt not to act out said behaviours on others. I would hope that gays and lesbians would be able to identify that singling out, ostracising or giving someone crap for their sexual orientation is a bad thing that feels bad.Do unto others and all that. Unfortunately, we don't live in a rational universe, we live in a universe populated by humans.

This isn't even that specific of a criticism. Sometimes, people are assholes, regardless of age, gender, sexual preference or cultural background. The ability to be a prick is a worldwide trait that can strike at the worst of times. Yes, the irony is almost palpable in the OP's case, and yes when a person, straight or gay or whatever, tells me to "pick a side and stick to it," when I tell them I'm bi, it renders me speechless for a little while. But I'm well beyond the point of being surprised by dickish behaviour. Aside from the occasional loud outburst of angrish, what else can you really do?

 

[NerdOwl]

Not wanting to have sex with you is not taking away your equality, toots. One chick talking smack isn't the same as having laws passed specifically to prevent you from getting married or from visiting your spouse in the hospital. Equality is a hell of a lot more than getting to fuck whomever you want.

Also, please don't fall in to the trap of taking the opinions of one person to be the opinions of the entire gay and lesbian communities.

P.S. Proof read your posts, FFS!

Fist of all, I never said the entire lesbian or gay community is against bisexuals, I said SOME are. Secondly, I also never said my friend set us up for sex. I said for a date. I wasn't offended for myself, toots, but for bisexuals that she offended, including me. Thirdly, I am bi. I am not a whore, so I realy wasn't bothered by the fact that her pants weren't going to be coming off her ass for me any time soon. In fact, it never crossed my mind. I like to take my girls out on more than one date before assuming I'll get more than a kiss, thanks.

P. S. I'll do my best, but seeing as auto correct on my phone tends to correct without my noticing, and I have better things to do than please grammar notzys, I think it'll be ok.

 

[Stella_Omega]

<snip>grammar notzys</snip>

Sounds like something incredibly tasty you'd order in a Polish restaurant.

 

[NerdOwl]

Sounds like something incredibly tasty you'd order in a Polish restaurant.

^.^ it was done on purpose, in case you or anyone else was wondering.

 

[Kurokami]

^.^ it was done on purpose, in case you or anyone else was wondering.

It still sounds delicious.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Jebus! My are you just a little 'ol stereotyper, aint'cha!

How much experience do you have, BTW? Was it that you were asked to get your manly ass out of a dyke bar or was there some chick that told you she wanted nothing to do with your ass so she "must" be a lesbian?

You claim to be a lesbian; however, at the same time you claim to be a wife and mother. Which in fact, if you are wife and mother, you are not a lesbian; you are bisexual, JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL POSTER! The only difference between you and the original poster is that he seems to be well adjusted and comfortable with his sexuality, which you apparently are not. Whether straight, bisexual or gay, people who are well adjusted and comfortable with their sexual orientation don't feel the need to post oversized banners on their profile claiming to be something they are not. (On your profile in glaring letters “PROUD LESBIAN”)

And don’t try to run that scam on us that you had a child in vitro. It is obvious to everyone that you take cock just like every other bisexual woman, and as I said, the only difference is that unlike other bisexual women, you can’t deal emotionally with your sexual urges.

Perhaps waving a banner proclaiming to the world that you are something that you are not makes you somehow special. Mother Teresa was special; Martin Luther was special, Jesus was special, even Mohammad was special, but you are not. You are just a woman who needs therapy to help her deal with her sexual urges.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

Or at any rate a short sharp comment regarding something incredibly stupid that you've just said out of self-satisfied ignorance.

Which certainly sounds like "hate and anger" to the innocent and privileged.

Yes, there are some of us who have a lot of anger towards the heteronormatives and the folk who can so easily (it seems to us at any rate) jump back and forth. I don't know one, single lesbian woman who hasn't lost a lover to some dude-- a dude who could marry her legally, provide for her better with his better paycheck, or give her that baby she wanted, or fuck her with the dick a lesbian doesn't have. So yeah, bisexual women have a hard row to hoe around lesbian women.

Sorry, that's just the way it is. It's something worth keeping in mind however, for the next time you run into someone like that. You can cut your friend off, maybe before she shoves her foot into your mouth again.

Hello Stella
You have already made posts in the past that you sometimes have sex with men, which also makes you bisexual just like the original poster. Your rhetoric has become so tiresome, I'm not even going to respond to your BS this round.

 

[Nasty_Deeds]

I hear the "MAKE UP YOUR MIND BISEXUALS" from a ton of heterosexual people.

Bisexuality is not a confused sexual orientation. For the most part, people who are bisexual are well adjusted and perfectly happy with their sexual choices in life. Bisexual people don't need to make up their mind; they know exactly what they want in life.

you're 19 years old, you need to get a little more life experience before you post on adult forums.

 

[NerdOwl]

Nasty, thank you for standing up for bisexuals, however, your methods, I think, need a bit of refinement. You cannot know if SB is faking. Calling her out will not help anything at this point. Stella also has every right to post in here as you do. In fact, she was one if the ones I consider to have provided a post worth reading that wasn't simply repeating what others had already said. At this point you are standing up for the original poster (me, an 18 year old female) so telling Entricity that she needs more life experience makes no sense. She has the life experience to post what she did, just as I have the life experience to post this thread. Being discriminated against dosnt have an age limit.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Just FYI, I identify as a "bisexual butch dyke with gender dysphoria issues."

Everyone here already knows that. My post is still pretty much accurate, regardless of my sexual wherefores. It doesn't blame anyone for anything, really. It's just the way it is.

Bisexuality is not a confused sexual orientation. For the most part, people who are bisexual are well adjusted and perfectly happy with their sexual choices in life. Bisexual people don't need to make up their mind; they know exactly what they want in life.

This is perfectly true. But knowing this won't help the lesbian who has to decide if she's going to make herself vulnerable to a bisexual woman or not, if you see what I mean. I have always tried to be very honest with women-- I do fuck men on occasion. Sometimes a prospective lover doesn't care, sometimes they do.

SB's children came from her wife Sue, who passed away a while back. many people here knew Sue and miss her. Yes, Safe_Bet is a widow, and a mother-- her children had two mothers. You really exhibit a lack of imagination, ND.

 

[lindsey4cum]

I didnt read all of the Comments but what about the CD community? What a bitch! You dont need here girl!

 

[klippert]

The other day I was strollin down the street (not really but the location isn't really relevant) and I bumped into some friends I hadnt seen in a while. We were chattin it ip and I noticed a new chick I hadnt met before. She was checkin me out so I took the liberty to do the same. My ever observant friend noticed and introduced us with "**** this is NerdOwl. NerdOwl this is ****." we smiled all cute at each other and shook hands and all that flirty shit we girls do. And then, out of nowhere, my awesome friend decides to lead with "so since you're a lesbian and you're bi, you two should go in a date!" -.- subtle, yeah? Anyway. I was up for it until I realized that miss priss was looking at me horrified. Upon questioning I got an answer as to why

"you're bi? Ugh, I can't believe this. Do you realize it's because of people like you that the lesbian and gay communities have such a bad rep? Pick a sex and stick to it. Don't be a whore for the rest of us. Besides, you don't count."

Lovely. Any thoughts?

This Miss Priss is a CUNT...Can Understand Normal Thinking. Who died and made her; Oh Great Judge of all carbon life forms....anyhoo.
similar: She sounds like this witch I had it with in a Star'fucks..... dumb broad going on how Michigan folk are so un-healthy....... Don't ever be afraid too slap a bitch like that right down......I just luv it...the militant Gay Inc. audacity.... "Do you realize it's people like you"........

You count honey....let her go back to her angry friends....so she can be angry too. You have better things to do....

 

[Kurokami]

Okay. This post has shown me you aren't too bright so I guess I can now see why you don't understand anything anyone says.

1. You do realize a woman can marry a woman? That would count as her wife.
2. Having children doesn't change your sexual orientation. A lot of lesbians adopt and some even go through artificial insemination.
It isn't like they had sex with a man or were attracted to one in order to do that.

Beginning to assume you're a really bored troll.

Exactly right, and that's leaving aside the fact that lesbians are still entirely, physically capable of having sex with a man and still being solely attracted to women. Just as a gay man can still sleep with a woman. Or a straight man can have sex with a guy. Sexual orientation isn't something that flips like a light switch the moment you have sex. Even if she did have sex with a guy to have kids, or was married to a man, or whatever else, it won't automatically revoke her goddamn lesbian license.

Although I must admit, from time to time I forget that there are places with legalised gay marriage too. I wish the Australian government would get its head out of its ass and legalise it here.

 

[CandiCame]

Exactly right, and that's leaving aside the fact that lesbians are still entirely, physically capable of having sex with a man and still being solely attracted to women. Just as a gay man can still sleep with a woman. Or a straight man can have sex with a guy. Sexual orientation isn't something that flips like a light switch the moment you have sex. Even if she did have sex with a guy to have kids, or was married to a man, or whatever else, it won't automatically revoke her goddamn lesbian license.

Although I must admit, from time to time I forget that there are places with legalised gay marriage too. I wish the Australian government would get its head out of its ass and legalise it here.

I know right- even if most states get it here, we won't.

MCConnel has a pretty hard-core "Fuck them faggots" political campaign...

You could also go turkey baster. Save 4 grand.

 

[Spacefender]

"you're bi? Ugh, I can't believe this. Do you realize it's because of people like you that the lesbian and gay communities have such a bad rep? Pick a sex and stick to it. Don't be a whore for the rest of us. Besides, you don't count."

Lovely. Any thoughts?

Yeah, fuck that bullshit sideways. You'd think someone who is gay or lesbian would understand the whole "sexual orientation is not a choice" thing.

A bad rep with whom? The right wing Prop 8 crowd? They don't even know what "bi" is. The only people offended by the NerdOwls of this world are asshats like mizz priss who see her as potential competition for the few women willing to put up with her drama.

Just goes to show, there are plenty of haters in the gay community. And NerdOwl just flushed one out. Too bad she didn't flush her down...

Yeah, I would have told that bitch to go fuck herself. I assume the OP is a nicer person than I am though.

I imagine self-righteous cunts give the lesbian and gay community (such as it is) a bad reputation way more than the average bisexual does.

 

[Stella_Omega]

this is worth coming back for:

Do you realize it's because of (bisexual) people like you that the lesbian and gay communities have such a bad rep?

I imagine self-righteous cunts give the lesbian and gay community (such as it is) a bad reputation way more than the average bisexual does.

Both of these statements are wrong.

What gives gays and lesbians a bad rep is the simple fact of their gayness. The most shining saints in existence still get shit on by society when that person comes out as same-sex oriented.

 

[sadangel]

The other day I was strollin down the street (not really but the location isn't really relevant) and I bumped into some friends I hadnt seen in a while. We were chattin it ip and I noticed a new chick I hadnt met before. She was checkin me out so I took the liberty to do the same. My ever observant friend noticed and introduced us with "**** this is NerdOwl. NerdOwl this is ****." we smiled all cute at each other and shook hands and all that flirty shit we girls do. And then, out of nowhere, my awesome friend decides to lead with "so since you're a lesbian and you're bi, you two should go in a date!" -.- subtle, yeah? Anyway. I was up for it until I realized that miss priss was looking at me horrified. Upon questioning I got an answer as to why

"you're bi? Ugh, I can't believe this. Do you realize it's because of people like you that the lesbian and gay communities have such a bad rep? Pick a sex and stick to it. Don't be a whore for the rest of us. Besides, you don't count."

Lovely. Any thoughts?

My first thought: (To bitch with no class, not NerdOwl)
No, it's people like YOU who give the Gay/Lesbian community a bad name. You want not to be discriminated against for YOUR sexual identity, yet choose to discriminate against another for THEIR sexual identity. Pot, meet kettle.

That's my initial thought.

 

[Spacefender]

What gives gays and lesbians a bad rep is the simple fact of their gayness. The most shining saints in existence still get shit on by society when that person comes out as same-sex oriented.

Not all of society hates gays and lesbians. Yeah, there are still lots of people who don't accept non-hetero sexual orientations but it is by no means universal. It's not even clear that it's the majority view any more. You're painting everyone with a broad brush which makes your statement just as incorrect as the ones you say are wrong.