Snowden

[Lancecastor]

Snowdon should be pardoned, returned to the USA, then arrested and shot for treason.

Shhh, don't tell him.

 

[Luk]

You should leave at least half an hour in between posting under your official username and posting under one of your attack alts.

I concur.

 

[Hard_Rom]

Snowden should have gone to the proper civilian oversight committee with proof of illegal activities. No oath of allegiance compels you to perform illegal acts. No soldier can claim protection by claiming to have just been following orders. You are in facts obligated to refuse such orders and report them to proper authorities. Be they a superior officer, service ombudsman or civilian oversight wallahs.

He should not have revealed information that while distasteful was legally obtained. It is one thing to be a whistleblower but he crossed the line into treason.

 

[hashtag4]

I concur.

I was referring to your DumpTrump alt.

Snowden should have gone to the proper civilian oversight committee with proof of illegal activities. No oath of allegiance compels you to perform illegal acts. No soldier can claim protection by claiming to have just been following orders. You are in facts obligated to refuse such orders and report them to proper authorities. Be they a superior officer, service ombudsman or civilian oversight wallahs.

He should not have revealed information that while distasteful was legally obtained. It is one thing to be a whistleblower but he crossed the line into treason.

Probably those committees would have tried to burry the whole issue while taking Snowden for a patsy.

Wasn't there another whistleblowers before Snowden, who tried to go through official channels and
ran into a lot of trouble afterwards?

 

[hashtag4]

Probably those committees would have tried to burry the whole issue while taking Snowden for a patsy.

Wasn't there another whistleblowers before Snowden, who tried to go through official channels and
ran into a lot of trouble afterwards?

Yes, William Binney. I'm sure that most people readimg this thread already know about those facts, but I'm putting them here more for myself:



"In September 2002, Edward Binney along with J. Kirk Wiebe and Edward Loomis, asked the U.S. Defense Department Inspector General (DoD IG) to investigate the NSA for allegedly wasting "millions and millions of dollars" on Trailblazer.
-- Binney has also been publicly critical of the NSA for spying on U.S. citizens, as well as noting Trailblazer's ineffectiveness and unjustified high cost compared to the far less intrusive ThinThread.
-- He was furious that the NSA hadn't uncovered the 9/11 plot and stated that intercepts it had collected but not analyzed likely would have garnered timely attention with his leaner more focused system.

In early July 2007, in an unannounced, armed, early morning raid, a dozen agents armed with rifles appeared at his house, [… ]...The NSA revoked his security clearance, forcing him to close a business he ran with former colleagues at a loss of a reported $300,000 in annual income.
- The FBI raided the homes of Wiebe and Loomis, as well as House Intelligence Committee staffer Diane Roark, and Thomas Andrews Drake who had also contacted DoD IG, but anonymously with confidentiality assured.
- The Assistant Inspector General, John Crane, in charge of the Whistleblower Program, suspecting his superiors provided confidential information to the Justice Dept (DOJ), challenged them, was eventually forced from his position, and subsequently himself became a public whistleblower.

The punitive treatment of Binney, Drake, and the other whistleblowers also led Edward Snowden to go public with his revelations rather than report through the internal whistleblower program."


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Binney_(U.S._intelligence_official)

 

[hashtag4]

So I think that Snowden did the right thing by going public with his revelations that NSA was spying on it's own citizens.

Unlike his predecessors however, Snowden also revealed some secrets that would have been detrimental to the US and would have put other countries at an advantage (he revealed details about the manner in which the US was spying on certain countries. All countries do that)
I feel that this part was condemnable

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Maybe he can be Secretary of State.

tee hee

 

[thør]

Eddie will be hauling in the bucks from his new iPhone 6 case.

 

[underguy1]

Snowden should have gone to the proper civilian oversight committee with proof of illegal activities. No oath of allegiance compels you to perform illegal acts. No soldier can claim protection by claiming to have just been following orders. You are in facts obligated to refuse such orders and report them to proper authorities. Be they a superior officer, service ombudsman or civilian oversight wallahs.

He should not have revealed information that while distasteful was legally obtained. It is one thing to be a whistleblower but he crossed the line into treason.

LOLz. You naive, authority sucking cretin.

 

[ifrtbttrflys]

Right up there with the infamous, "I did not have sexual relations with that woman," here's a menu you can choose from of federal government officials outright lying about spying on American citizens when confronted under oath:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nsa+lying

Remember just a couple of weeks ago when news announced that the NSA and AT&T are in cahoots? Yahoo? Fact is, the federal government's domestic spying apparatus reaches into every digital company in the nation - STILL. And it doesn't matter if a Bush, an Obama, a Clinton or a Trump heads the Executive branch, the outright lying and spying continues at if it doesn't matter at all.

Screw all the political crap: America only progresses to the point its citizens hold its government fully accountable for its actions.

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Stealing, as in theft or burglary, involves removing something which is now in the miscreant's possession and is no longer possessed by its owner. I can steal a loaf of bread or whatever. If I copy data and leave the original in place, I may have violated copyright or security laws, but I haven't removed the original -- I haven't 'stolen' it.

Instead, if I make the copy publicly available, I have freed it. (And not in the sense of 'liberated' = stolen.) Someone has evidence of their crimes. Someone else releases that evidence for the world to judge. What was stolen? Only the coverup.

You sure have a funny way of staying out of trouble.

 

[Hypoxia]

You sure have a funny way of staying out of trouble.

Maybe I should have written you rather than I. Then we could laugh at everyone else.