Smoking Gun In Obama/Trump Spy Case?

[Rightguide]

Nunes said last night on Fox the multi-agency dissemination of intercepts of Trump surveillance was done before Obama issued EO 12333 authorizing that wider dissemination among intelligence agencies. He indicated as well the disclosed information had no intelligence value, meaning only political value.



Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

By James Rosen Published March 23, 2017 FoxNews.com

Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...stration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

 

[Rightguide]

It might be time for Trump to fire Comey and Rogers, both stated under oath they had no information supporting his claims that his campaign was surveilled. It's time as well for AG Sessions to impanel a grand jury to get to the bottom of this.

 

[Rightguide]

House and Senate Intel committees need to take this apart. The American people through the Congress gave the government FISA powers in trust that American citizens civil liberties would be protected. This now seems to be in question and might well be something to consider when the authority to extend these powers come up this fall for congressional review. If by that time there are no prosecutions for felonies committed the Congress should restrict these powers to protect American civil liberties. Trump should rescind EO 12333 if he hasn't already.

 

[KingOrfeo]

It might be time for Trump to fire Comey and Rogers, both stated under oath they had no information supporting his claims that his campaign was surveilled.

Why should they be fired for having no information?

 

[Rightguide]

Why should they be fired for having no information?

Because they clearly did have information as Nunes will reveal in days to come. His information is coming from the NSA.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

King O croons:

Wish I may, wish I might
Have this wish, I wish tonight
I want that star, I want it now
I want it all and I don't care how

The Greek Chorus replies

Careful what you wish
Careful what you say
Careful what you wish you may regret it
Careful what you wish you just might get it
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger, but there's no one around

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz9DX_VMXdI

 

[phrodeau]

A "potential smoking gun" is just a gun, and every American has one.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

A "potential smoking gun" is just a gun, and every American has one.

What kind do you have?

 

[Colonel Hogan]

The only smoking gun in Washington these days is the one the President keeps firing at his ear. If there was ever a guy who could stand to learn more about "firearm safety"....

 

[Parminderjeet]

Nunes said last night on Fox the multi-agency dissemination of intercepts of Trump surveillance was done before Obama issued EO 12333 authorizing that wider dissemination among intelligence agencies. He indicated as well the disclosed information had no intelligence value, meaning only political value.



Potential 'smoking gun' showing Obama administration spied on Trump team, source says

By James Rosen Published March 23, 2017 FoxNews.com

Republican congressional investigators expect a potential “smoking gun” establishing that the Obama administration spied on the Trump transition team, and possibly the president-elect himself, will be produced to the House Intelligence Committee this week, a source told Fox News.

Classified intelligence showing incidental collection of Trump team communications, purportedly seen by committee Chairman Devin Nunes, R-Calif., and described by him in vague terms at a bombshell Wednesday afternoon news conference, came from multiple sources, Capitol Hill sources told Fox News. The intelligence corroborated information about surveillance of the Trump team that was known to Nunes, sources said, even before President Trump accused his predecessor of having wiretappedhim in a series of now-infamous tweets posted on March 4.

The intelligence is said to leave no doubt the Obama administration, in its closing days, was using the cover of legitimate surveillance on foreign targets to spy on President-elect Trump, according to sources.

The key to that conclusion is the unmasking of selected U.S. persons whose names appeared in the intelligence, the sources said, adding that the paper trail leaves no other plausible purpose for the unmasking other than to damage the incoming Trump administration.

More here:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...stration-spied-on-trump-team-source-says.html

"expect a potential smoking gun" lmao

You are such a moron.

 

[Rightguide]

Mollie Hemingway gets it:

Here’s Why Nunes’ Obama Spying Revelations Are Such A Big Deal

By Mollie Hemingway
MARCH 23, 2017

~Snip~

"Okay, then! Now that we’ve debunked the issue of whether Obama personally crawled into Trump Tower in late October to lay down wiretaps, can we talk about the significant information revealed by the House Intelligence Committee chairman regarding the Obama administration’s questionable behavior in November, December, and January? The selective leaking of Trump’s phone calls with foreign leaders? The unmasking and smearing of Michael Flynn? Now that we’ve gotten the wiretap issue out of the way? Can we? Or as I put it on Monday even before this latest bombshell, “We should be having a conversation about the surveillance of a political opponent.”

Imagine that President George W. Bush had listened in on Obama transition team discussions and spread that information throughout the bureaucracy. Can you imagine how outraged the entire press corps would have been? And rightly so! Abusing foreign surveillance machinery to collect and spread information on political opponents is wrong. Selectively leaking that information via a coordinated campaign to a receptive media complex in order to give an unsubstantiated impression that a political opponent is illegitimate or compromised is also not great.

If the laws and regulations guiding the collection of information by spy agencies were violated by the party in power to hurt the opposing party, that’s banana republic stuff. It matters not whether the Trump team were officially the targets, whether the targets were designed to obscure the real targets, or whether it truly was incidental collection. The effect was that members of the Trump team had their privacy invaded, and that the information gathered was disseminated and even leaked to the public by the Obama-led bureaucracy."

~Snip~

Read more here:

https://thefederalist.com/2017/03/23/heres-why-nunes-obama-spying-revelations-are-such-a-big-deal/

 

[OldJourno]

"expect a potential smoking gun" lmao

You are such a moron.

That's what the whole Trump/Russia "investigation" is, one potential smoking gun after another that never amounts to anything.

"Wiretapped data used in inquiry of Trump aides" was the headline at the top of the front page of the Jan. 20 New York Times. On March 4, the NYT reacted to Trump's claim of wiretaps with a headline that noted the president cited no evidence.
Both stories were written by Michael S. Schmidt.

Not sure why everyone is skeptical of Trump's claim. According to the NYT, it's a hell of a lot more than a potential smoking gun.

 

[Parminderjeet]

That's what the whole Trump/Russia "investigation" is, one potential smoking gun after another that never amounts to anything.

"Wiretapped data used in inquiry of Trump aides" was the headline at the top of the front page of the Jan. 20 New York Times. On March 4, the NYT reacted to Trump's claim of wiretaps with a headline that noted the president cited no evidence.
Both stories were written by Michael S. Schmidt.

Not sure why everyone is skeptical of Trump's claim. According to the NYT, it's a hell of a lot more than a potential smoking gun.

According to the NYT Hillary was a shoe-in.

 

[OldJourno]

According to the NYT Hillary was a shoo-in.

FYP

I once had a boss who had real problems with "in tow." He used in toe instead and did it on my day off. I can't believe no one else caught it.

By comparison, shoe-in is rather tame.

 

[Parminderjeet]

FYP

I once had a boss who had real problems with "in tow." He used in toe instead and did it on my day off. I can't believe no one else caught it.

By comparison, shoe-in is rather tame.

Nothing wrong with shoe-in.

 

[phrodeau]

People have noticed that when Trump accuses someone of something, it often turns out that Trump has been doing it.

So who is Trump wiretapping?

 

[doowdniw]

People have noticed that when Trump accuses someone of something, it often turns out that Trump has been doing it.

So who is Trump wiretapping?

He should have someone else write a book about it for him and call it "The Art of the Deflection".

 

[Parminderjeet]

People have noticed that when Trump accuses someone of something, it often turns out that Trump has been doing it.

So who is Trump wiretapping?

I'm willing to bet that he has some kind of surveillance going on Obama.

 

[KingOrfeo]

People have noticed that when Trump accuses someone of something, it often turns out that Trump has been doing it.

So who is Trump wiretapping?

Phone whores, probably.

 

[Parminderjeet]

https://8.smash.com/u/2016/12/donald-trump-photoshop-battle-780x3901-780x390.jpg

 

[KingOrfeo]

Rightuide, any malfeasance or misfeasance in connection with this insane business is all and entirely and solely on the Trump team. You can't turn it around and pin it on Obama, and you'll fail embarrassingly if you try. Just accept it.

 

[someoneyouknow]

Not sure how many times this nonsense needs to be shut down. The surveillance which was done was not directed at Trump, Trump Tower or any of his people. The ones being surveilled were foreign agents.

Further, as Nunes himself stated, this was routine surveillance and not ordered by Obama.

Finally, the reason Obama ordered all the information widely disseminated was because he was (rightfully) concerned Trump would bury anything which came out regarding his collusion with Russia. By disseminating the information as widely as possible Trump could not later claim there was no evidence for his collusion.

The very opposite of what Trump has been saying for the past two weeks, which is, Obama ordered wiretaps on Trump Tower.

There is no smoking gun. It's all been well documented this past week what actually happened.

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecurity/325218-nunes-intelligence-community-collected-information-on-trump-transition

P.S. You will note in the article Nunes' weasel words, “This information was legally brought to me by sources who thought that we should know it,”

In other words, someone leaked the information. Will the con artist go on a tirade about this leaked information?

 

[Hard_Rom]

Why should they be fired for having no information?

Because they head major intelligence agencies.

 

[magicalmoments]

Trump's original tweets left me with the impression, as it was intended to, that at some point o'bama personally ordered the wiretapping of Trump's phone.

Clearly that never happened. Trump lied, or was given some fake news that he took as real.

Everything else on this issue is just flimflam.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Rightuide, any malfeasance or misfeasance in connection with this insane business is all and entirely and solely on the Trump team. You can't turn it around and pin it on Obama, and you'll fail embarrassingly if you try. Just accept it.

Yes. Indeed. It was the Trump team dumping on itself...


Thank you. We can clearly see that now.


Why did no Democrats...

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... get dumped on?