Smoking Cessation the Kink way

[Netzach]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

I'm rationing cigs these days. It's cool, but I don't want to positively reinforce the moment of smoking either.

Anyone else helped a sub person quit successfully? Is it better to just stay the fuck out of this one? What did you do?

 

[Jay Davis]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

It doesn't??? Dammit!!!

Well, no point in being a sub, then...

40yo Novice Dom seeks pliable fem sub for mutual growth and pleasurable exploration. Must have own buttplug. Sean Hannity fans need not apply.

(Not really. Oh, except the Sean Hannity part. I meant that.)

 

[graceanne]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

I'm rationing cigs these days. It's cool, but I don't want to positively reinforce the moment of smoking either.

Anyone else helped a sub person quit successfully? Is it better to just stay the fuck out of this one? What did you do?

Ok, this is not going to work for everyone. (FYI My uncle is a very sub person, and always dates very dominant women. I wouldn't say it's D/s, it's more toward the center of the spectrum.) But when my uncle was quiting, his girlfriend, Lisa, let him smoke all the pot he wanted for like a month, to help with the cravings. I'm not sure what she did about the pot cravings after that time, I wasn't visiting during this, I just know cause my dad told me years later.

I also wondered if maybe causing an endorphin rush when he's really craving the cigarettes would help.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Don't envy you Netzach. F quit cold turkey and has done well for a long time now, except for when he is around friends who smoke and is offered one......a couple of times he has taken them, and even been ill afterward on occasion, but he still gets strong cravings even after this long without them. Being the slave in this relationship all I can do is encourage and empathise and try and find ways to distract him.....lol, like that works though!!

Catalina

 

[landcruisergal]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

I'm rationing cigs these days. It's cool, but I don't want to positively reinforce the moment of smoking either.

Anyone else helped a sub person quit successfully? Is it better to just stay the fuck out of this one? What did you do?

A dom I knew got his sub to quit by making her fit instead.She would call him saying she wanted a cig, and he would give her exercises to do.He was a trainer at a gym. They split ( before I knew him, he told me he could make me quit too, hence the discussion) and I wonder if she went back to the cigs, as her motivation was to please him.

 

[Jay Davis]

A dom I knew got his sub to quit by making her fit instead.She would call him saying she wanted a cig, and he would give her exercises to do.He was a trainer at a gym. They split ( before I knew him, he told me he could make me quit too, hence the discussion) and I wonder if she went back to the cigs, as her motivation was to please him.

Cigarettes are so bad for you, even if he only kept her off them temporarily, he did her a favor.

Cigarettes are the only product legally available in the United States which are inherently bad for you when used as intended by the manufacturer. This isn't even true of alcohol--cigarettes are completely alone in this regard.

 

[Betticus]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

I'm rationing cigs these days. It's cool, but I don't want to positively reinforce the moment of smoking either.

Anyone else helped a sub person quit successfully? Is it better to just stay the fuck out of this one? What did you do?

This is a tough one, I had to do the cold turkey quitting thing. If I have a cigarette then it really brings the cravings on like mad. That's why the rationing didn't work for me, I'd not smoke until the evening then suck down a whole pack before midnight.

One of the things that always made me resent smoking was the feeling of weakness brought about by a damn plant. Addiction really goes against my nature. I tried to convince myself once that I liked to smoke but it's also tough to lie to yourself as some feelings of self loathing will always creep up.

Perhaps for a sub type some unpleasant negative reinforcement for each cigarette that is smoked during the day.

It also seems that I want a cigarette now just as badly as when I first quit but I'm just getting used to living with the cravings.

I would go with chocolate replacement therapy if I were you. Something along the lines of being made to sit in the corner all alone and think for an hour about the nature of cigarette addiction for each one smoked but if you suck on a nice little piece of chocolate instead of smoking that rationed cigarette you get petted and nice stuff. Plus you get a piece of chocolate.

A punishment and reward system.

 

[Jay Davis]

It also seems that I want a cigarette now just as badly as when I first quit but I'm just getting used to living with the cravings.

A very close friend of mine was briefly a heroine user in her early teens. Fortunately, she got caught very quickly, and her mother--a professional therapist--basically sat on her until she graduated high school, to be sure she never used again. She freely admits she was very, very lucky to have been turned around by some very tough, but genuine, love.

She's 30 now, clean for 16 years, very accomplished and successful. Since the arrest that lead to her rehabilitation was a single juvenile offense, the records are sealed, and the only way anyone will ever know about her history is if she chooses to share it. You would never guess she'd ever had drug problem if you met her now, or at any time during the 9 years I've known her.

On one of the very few occasions we talked about this, she told me--much to my surprise--that those cravings never go away. You learn to cope with them, to be stronger than they are, but once you have them, they are with you forever. You have to defeat them every day of your life.

Knowing this only increased my respect for her, her rehabilitation and her success.

 

[graceanne]

A very close friend of mine was briefly a heroine user in her early teens. Fortunately, she got caught very quickly, and her mother--a professional therapist--basically sat on her until she graduated high school, to be sure she never used again. She freely admits she was very, very lucky to have been turned around by some very tough, but genuine, love.

She's 30 now, clean for 16 years, very accomplished and successful. Since the arrest that lead to her rehabilitation was a single juvenile offense, the records are sealed, and the only way anyone will ever know about her history is if she chooses to share it. You would never guess she'd ever had drug problem if you met her now, or at any time during the 9 years I've known her.

On one of the very few occasions we talked about this, she told me--much to my surprise--that those cravings never go away. You learn to cope with them, to be stronger than they are, but once you have them, they are with you forever. You have to defeat them every day of your life.

Knowing this only increased my respect for her, her rehabilitation and her success.

That is actually quite common. My mom and dad are both recovering adicts, and I've been attending AA meeting with my mom and sister since I was 8 years old. My mom, who's been sober for 19 years now still craves pot, and I know my dad still occasionally wants a beer. I also know that while I was in the hospital I got to really like intravaneous drugs. When I'm not feeling good I wish that I still had an IV, cause not only do they work better (and faster), but when they first hit your system . . . it's awesome.

 

[Netzach]

it's really weird walking around with cigs in my purse.

Chocolate is not a good substitute, as we are trying to shed some weight too. Chocolate was overindulged in last october when I was on the road a month and the extra 20 pounds have clung to my sweetie since.

He has huge moral/personal objections to pot, so that's also not an option. (whatever)

I could create some endorphins, that may be just the ticket. Full body waxing seems like a good distraction for a few hours.

And yes, morphine IV is amazingly good shit. If I didn't have other things to do I'd be out on the street trying to buy one, I think, sometimes.

 

[Summer_Jasmine]

Weirdly, I didn't like IV morphine. I had it after some knee surgery and it just made me cranky and didn't seem to help the pain at all.

Addictions are scary, scary things.

 

[graceanne]

it's really weird walking around with cigs in my purse.

Chocolate is not a good substitute, as we are trying to shed some weight too. Chocolate was overindulged in last october when I was on the road a month and the extra 20 pounds have clung to my sweetie since.

He has huge moral/personal objections to pot, so that's also not an option. (whatever)

I could create some endorphins, that may be just the ticket. Full body waxing seems like a good distraction for a few hours.

And yes, morphine IV is amazingly good shit. If I didn't have other things to do I'd be out on the street trying to buy one, I think, sometimes.

You think morphines great in an IV? Diloted (sp?) is waaaaaaaaay better. Suffice it to say that my room mate in the hospital was a heroin addict and when she found out what they were giving me she said 'wow, that's great shit'. I mean morphines good, but diloted is AWESOME.

 

[Netzach]

You think morphines great in an IV? Diloted (sp?) is waaaaaaaaay better. Suffice it to say that my room mate in the hospital was a heroin addict and when she found out what they were giving me she said 'wow, that's great shit'. I mean morphines good, but diloted is AWESOME.

Guess I just should have said "ow ow ow my pain's at a seven" last time in the Big House.

We made it with only 3.5 smokes yesterday, he's doing well. I may have to come up with some rewards here.

 

[graceanne]

Guess I just should have said "ow ow ow my pain's at a seven" last time in the Big House.

We made it with only 3.5 smokes yesterday, he's doing well. I may have to come up with some rewards here.

Well, I said mine was at about seven, but I could only get morphine ever four hours and it only worked for two. So they bumped me up to something stronger. Diloted lasted for six hours, andI could have it every four, so they were pleased and I was pleased.

 

[Betticus]

Guess I just should have said "ow ow ow my pain's at a seven" last time in the Big House.

We made it with only 3.5 smokes yesterday, he's doing well. I may have to come up with some rewards here.

I haven't had one in thirteen days. Can I have a spanking?

 

[SweetDommes]

I'm very interested in this - ghosst has been "quitting" for the entire time he's lived with us (Nov of '03). So far, cold turkey hasn't worked, the gum hasn't worked, and I don't know if he talked to the dr about it or not the last time he went, but he needs to. At this point, I refuse to even consider anyone who smokes (thankfully, the corporal who has the hots for me doesn't smoke, and neither do either of the two boys from Chicago that we're talking to).

 

[Netzach]

I haven't had one in thirteen days. Can I have a spanking?

13 days nothing? You can have a big ol' woodshed style ass strapping.

 

[Netzach]

I'm very interested in this - ghosst has been "quitting" for the entire time he's lived with us (Nov of '03). So far, cold turkey hasn't worked, the gum hasn't worked, and I don't know if he talked to the dr about it or not the last time he went, but he needs to. At this point, I refuse to even consider anyone who smokes (thankfully, the corporal who has the hots for me doesn't smoke, and neither do either of the two boys from Chicago that we're talking to).

Yeah, I totally hear you.

This has been an on again off again project for at least a year. I've almost had to kill him a few times he gets so annoying and nuts without the cigs. Now there's some interest in female hormones though, on his part and a willing endocrinologist who was dumb enough to overlook this:

Smoking + estrogen = blood clots.

So it's an either or as I have decided. And if it's either getting girlier or cigs, that seems to be the right incentive.

 

[Red Sonja]

Well I quit successfully and painfully 7 years ago. And my Dh was there to help with the process.

What we did: First, he and I talked (oh and I really wanted to quit... for me) during that conversation we set a quit date.

Second, during the time leading up to the quit date, I got a bunch of bangle bracelets. I was smoking about a pack and a half per day. So I got 30 bracelets. Each time I smoked a cigarette, I would have to take a bracelet off. I was rewarded for the bracelets that remained. The next week only 20 bracelets etc. If I wound up with no bracelets remaining... that was a punishment session.

Third, on the quit date we stocked up on Listerine, and atomic fireball candies to help me battle the taste you get in your mouth when you haven't had a cig for a while? You smokers and ex-smokers out there know what I mean right?

Fourth, at the end of my first smoke free week, Dh took me out and bought me a brand new winter coat. It didn't smell like smoke like my old one and was fairly expensive. I sure didn't want to disappoint him after he'd purchased something like that, nor did I want to ruin my coat!! It was a powerful reward and incentive to stay quit.

That said, there are still times I really want a cigarette. But, remembering how sucky it was quitting, and how miserable I was... I'd never go back. I'm a masochist but that is just way too much pain.

 

[Betticus]

13 days nothing? You can have a big ol' woodshed style ass strapping.

Um... I kinda wanted the fun little playful kind. That leads to giggling and tickling and stuff.

 

[Netzach]

Um... I kinda wanted the fun little playful kind. That leads to giggling and tickling and stuff.

Ohhh.

I always was an overachiever, sorry.

 

[graceanne]

Um... I kinda wanted the fun little playful kind. That leads to giggling and tickling and stuff.

Well, well, well. Aren't we feeling awefully picky. You know you didn't specify.

 

[Betticus]

Well, well, well. Aren't we feeling awefully picky. You know you didn't specify.

You have been teasing me for days girl. I think you may be in need of a spanking yourself!

 

[graceanne]

You have been teasing me for days girl. I think you may be in need of a spanking yourself!

Yeah, probably. But we're on an enforced dry spell. First I was on the rag, then the day I stopped bleeding K pulled a muscle in his back real bad, and now he has a UTI.

 

[timberwolf05]

So yeah, I know that ending self-destructive behavior doesn't just happen when the Dom says "quit it" unlike how Secretary would have us believe.

I'm rationing cigs these days. It's cool, but I don't want to positively reinforce the moment of smoking either.

Anyone else helped a sub person quit successfully? Is it better to just stay the fuck out of this one? What did you do?

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ok,.......so i am not a dominate. but "I" quit cold turkey. what's the problem here? been smokin since i was 10.

wolfie