Smokers...

[AgonySceneGirl]

i smoke where i want when i want - its part of living in a free country.
If you want people to not be able to do what they want - then get the hell out of this free country.
Its ok for you to do what you want but expect us not to do things around you? if you dont like it - tuff. deal with it or walk away. If you go to a bar, do you sit there bitching at everyone that lights up a cig just because your around and dont want the smoke near you?
what makes you so high and mighty to think that the world revolves around you and what you think everyone else should or shouldnt do? DEAL WITH IT! you are not god nor are you a lawmaker.

 

[WriterDom]

Smokers are nothing more than drug addicts with a very cheap drug of choice. They don't "enjoy" smoking. They have to smoke. I like ice cream but I don't need 20 cups a day every day. The whole idea of breathing in smoke is pretty stupid when you think about it.

And yes, I used to smoke.

 

[NotNowHunny]

Smokers are nothing more than drug addicts with a very cheap drug of choice. They don't "enjoy" smoking. They have to smoke. I like ice cream but I don't need 20 cups a day every day. The whole idea of breathing in smoke is pretty stupid when you think about it.

And yes, I used to smoke.

Good for you for quitting. May I ask how long you smoked, how much you smoked and what helped you quit?

 

[WriterDom]

Good for you for quitting. May I ask how long you smoked, how much you smoked and what helped you quit?

I quit over 30 years ago. I bought a book about quitting but I don't remember the name. The big thing about quitting is making it the first 90 days. If you can do that chances are you can quit for good.

I smoked a little over a pack a day for a couple of years. It was the last thing I did at night and the first I'd do in the morning.

 

[77Cobra]

I am a smoker and I am almost always considerate of other peoples space.I do respect non smokers right to breath so called clean air if there is such a thing.But what we have in todays society is a witch hunt.Damn near everyone is against the smokers and have made the smokers seem like evil,dirty repulsive creatures.What the hell are all the non smokers going to say if we all just quit and the missed revenue from all the taxes on tobacco has to come out of their pockets?
Just how many people spend enough time in a resturant each day for second hand smoke to kill them.If you ate all three meals a day in a resturant you may spend 3 to 4 hours a day tops breathing smoke and most places have or had non smoking areas so the smoke there would not be as concentrated.Is it really enough to cause cancer?Plus if you go to a bar chances are that you really are not too concerned about your health or you would not be in a bar in the first place.
I remember years ago going into Drs. office lobbies and there were ashtrays for those who smoke.
As I said I am usually considerate of non smokers unless I meet up with some asshole who berates me and treats me like a leper.Then I go into the most inconsiderate son of a bitch you ever knew mode and tell them this is my space too and if they don't like it get the fuck away from me.

 

[WriterDom]

IWhat the hell are all the non smokers going to say if we all just quit and the missed revenue from all the taxes on tobacco has to come out of their pockets?
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We should encourage young people to smoke. That way they die off before receiving social security. And pay those taxes along the way.

 

[AgonySceneGirl]

It is your choice not to smoke- you cannot make the choice for others like you are clearly trying to do. so drop it before you get flamed, this thread is obviously pissing people off and i am one of them.

 

[fire_breeze]

I think the post that mentioned inconsiderate smokers and inconsiderate everythings was right on. I just feel there's a difference between being loud and obnoxious and putting someone around you at a direct risk for cancer that they wouldn't have had before you came along.

I'm not complaining about laws or not being able to do anything (notice the emphasis through repetition) Just even though it is ok, legal, allowed, etc... how can someone walk up to a group of people, join in the conversation, and then just start smoking in your face like it's nothing? I know you can. I know it's legal. I know I can walk away. I guess I just feel like I should have the right to sit/stand where I had been before and not have smoke in my face all of a sudden, just as smokers have the right to do so in certain places... seems like they don't allow eachother...

And this is where the difference between a considerate and non considerate smoker comes into play. A considerate smoker, joining a conversation will probably know who are bothered by smoke, who are asthmatic, who's pregnant, if there's kids, etc. and many of them will not light up. They will also ask if anyone minds if they smoke. However, it's the responsibility of the non-smokers to say yes, it bothers me. A non-considerate smoker will not be sensitive to others. It's the same with swearing. It's legal. Some people are bothered by it, some aren't, and if those who are bothered don't say anything, or mutter under their breath are displaying the very rudeness that they themselves are complaining about.

In my opinion, it's everyone's duty to be polite and courteous. If someone's bothered by the smoke, and s/he cannot move, then it's his/her responsibility to find some sort of compromise. And yes, I used to smoke, and I bent backwards to those who kindly requested that I move down-wind of them, or finish that cigarette quickly.

 

[greeneyed_Lady]

Makes me kind of glad they've made it illegal to smoke indoors in public places here... and now I think they have banned smoking from patios as well.

I don't think I've ever had a smoker blow smoke in my face.

When someone is inconsiderate of others, they aren't going to care who or what is around them. I'm highly allergic to smoke... nose stuffs up, throat closes and becomes raw with extended exposure (think all night in a bar raw, dry feeling the next morning, only it happens with me in a matter of minutes), eyes become red and irritated. I do not like the smell of it at all and do what I can to avoid it at all costs. Sometimes it's unavoidable tho, so I make the best of the situation as I can. If I'm able to, I will move away. My pet is a smoker, altho he doesn't smoke around me at all... ever. He's far too occupied when we are together to think about wanting/having/needing a smoke.

My dad is a smoker, and he goes outside to smoke now. We are all on him to quit.. and he's done it before. For years actually. I don't believe the whole 90 day thing at all Writer Dom. He's quit a couple of times for as long as 3 or 4 yrs, but then goes right back to it at times of high stress.

 

[WriterDom]

The urge never goes away. And I have puffed on a few but like Bill I don't inhale.

Another reason to quit is that if you are a guy, you are killing your penis. I'm 50 and can fuck all day long.

 

[akazie]

People who smoke are not worried about what you think, you can move or say something if the smoking really upsets you that much

I am a considerate smoker, I smoke away from people but the people who are melodramatic about smokers really get on my nerves and probably don't deserve my respectful behavior.

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[cloudy]

Another reason to quit is that if you are a guy, you are killing your penis. I'm 50 and can fuck all day long.

Not so.

My husband smokes, has since his teens, and there are no problems with his, trust me (he just turned 46).

 

[trb2216]

I'm not sure if this is so much a "how to" as a "why"...

But what's up with people who smoke (at least in my experience) having little to no concern/respect/regard for the people whose faces they are blowing their cancer gas into? I work with several people who will just light up and puff right in your face like it's nothing... and I feel extremely awkward wanting to say something so I usually just move away and downwind of them.

And I apologize for the considerate smokers out there Thank you for caring enough to stay away!

But it's not just a preference thing... I mean if someone wore bad clothes it would be annoying and I'd probably stay away still but this is an unethical infringement on the health choices that are made by human beings. No, Mr. smoker, it is NOT ok for you to stink up my air and clothes, pollute my breathing space, and give me cancer. Thank you for asking!

I just feel the people I have in mind just see it as a totally nonchalant thing... like "Well, I think I'll sit down now" just "Well, I think I'll smoke now" assuming it has no effects outside of their own mind and body? Well... it does! I'm growing sick of this lack of consideration. Where do they get the nerve?

Privately, I don't mind at all. Do what you want behind closed (air-tight) doors. But around other people who have not expressed their consent to this behavior, please do not!

I guess this has turned into more of a vent than a question at all

Well, for both smokers and non-smokers, what goes through your head? (or what doesn't?) I just don't even see how anyone could be so inconsiderate like this...

where the hell is your own damn self-responibilty to go away from it if you don't like it?



i won't blow it in your face on purpose, but if i'm allowed to smoke then you are allowed to go the other way. thats the way it is. don't like it, leave it.

 

[necroerotica]

Am I the only one a little amazed at, on a forum where someone can ask how to stick a baseball bat down their urethra and everyone starts advising on the best lube, but someone asks a question about smoking and the passive-aggressive (and just plain aggressive) responses that come back….

Oy.

Guys, put the lighters down, step back from the filter slowly, and no one will get hurt…..

 

[WriterDom]

Not so.

My husband smokes, has since his teens, and there are no problems with his, trust me (he just turned 46).

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/115545/smoking_causes_impotence

Well, he could be one pack away.

 

[WhiteKnight326]

Am I the only one a little amazed at, on a forum where someone can ask how to stick a baseball bat down their urethra and everyone starts advising on the best lube, but someone asks a question about smoking and the passive-aggressive (and just plain aggressive) responses that come back….

Oy.

Guys, put the lighters down, step back from the filter slowly, and no one will get hurt…..

That made my day

 

[Ksb]

Am I the only one a little amazed at, on a forum where someone can ask how to stick a baseball bat down their urethra and everyone starts advising on the best lube, but someone asks a question about smoking and the passive-aggressive (and just plain aggressive) responses that come back….

I think the aggression came from the first post - it wasn't a how to, it was a rant. I think the vibe of this forum is very much 'live and let live'... So when someone asks how to stop people from doing things, it's a natural response. If someone came on here asking how to stop their girlfriend using baseball acts in an obscene way (whilst pointing out it was disgusting and could seriously damage the sexual pleasure they got from her) i'm sure they'd get a less than positive response too.

 

[WhiteKnight326]

when someone asks how to stop people from doing things, it's a natural response.

Please kindly quote from the original post where the poster asked "how to stop people from doing things"

Thank you

 

[Milly66]

I can understand the OP's dislike of smokers blowing it in his face, but in the same frame, I do not drive a car yet I am forced to breath in petrol/diesel fumes yet I don't rant about it. If you dislike it so much you don't have to stay there you have a choice. Just my opinion

 

[VelvetDarkness]

I think that most smokers are considerate these days. They recognise that they're usually in the minority and try to ensure they don't cause offence or unwittingly pollute the bloodstream of an unborn child. In the UK, smoking has been made illegal in public buildings so bars, restaurants and nightclubs etc are smoke free zones.

I agree with writerdom that smokers, although a much maligned group, make a huge contribution to society through taxation. In the UK, smokers are being refused operations and certain medical procedures unless they quit but at the same time, it's undeniable that they have often made a significant contribution to the NHS through cigarette taxation. I often think they should bring back gratis points and allow smokers to collect cigarette cards until they have enough to trade for a new lung.

 

[rydia57]

Hmmm,


I put it this way. Smokers and non smokers exist. I have friends who smoke, they're kind enough not to do it around me or say they're going outside to smoke. When I run into someone that smokes I ask if they do before I sit down... so I know not to sit there. If I see someone smoking, I walk around me. My parents used to smoke so I know how it is. Me... I never saw anything in it. I tried once in hs, didn't like the taste, and that's it. Some people don't wanna quit, so .... let them exist that way. They got a right... right?

 

[necroerotica]

Here's my take on it - I'll sit here and breath in your secand-hand smoke all you want, no problem.
As long as you don't mind if I have a pint or two of beer and piss in your tea.

Same thing, and fairs fair after all.....

 

[nonotthere]

Nice one. I agree.