slut'

[Edith_UK]

I just wanted to add this definition:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slut

but I'd rather eavesdrop on Edith and ownedsubgal's convo!

I will say though, that osg doesn't pick and choose her partners-- but her Master does. So there is someone exercising some sort of discretion.

Ah looks like I was wrong about the root of the word. Nice one for pointing that out. I always thought it ment same as slag.

Fuck me, no offence to you osg, but I dunno how you let a bloke work you if you've worked yourself. That's like being pimped out innit. Fuck that shit. Do you get off on it then?

 

[ownedsubgal]

Ah looks like I was wrong about the root of the word. Nice one for pointing that out. I always thought it ment same as slag.

Fuck me, no offence to you osg, but I dunno how you let a bloke work you if you've worked yourself. That's like being pimped out innit. Fuck that shit. Do you get off on it then?

Edith, it's not quite like that. i have been a slave for all of my adult life, over a decade. so when i was a whore, obviously i was owned. it was a bit like being pimped out, yes, but as a slave clearly i would have no issue with that. as for the particular style of whoring, it was a unique combination of escorting/companionship and sexual surrogacy. it was my place to serve and to be used just as it is in every other facet of my life. i spent a great deal of time getting to know each and every client before taking them on to insure that i would be a proper fit for them, as i was looking for special cases...those who needed more than just a hole to fill for a time. it wasn't about taking care of me, it was about taking care of them. the emotional connection to each one was critical, and much more time was spent talking/listening/bonding, then fucking (tho don't get me wrong, there was plenty of that). so not the typical sex worker arrangement, much more submissive therapist than sexy anonymous plaything.

and actually Stella, as a whore i did choose my partners. of course my Master always had veto power, but it was important to him that i have the ability to find the sort of men who needed me most. and now i continue to see those men, but the whore aspect has been taken out of it...the relationship and its boundaries have been established, there is great mutual trust, so they are now free to just use me as they will, however i may be needed at the time.

and naturally i am still a slut and always will be...it is my restrictive lifestyle as a slave which saves me from myself there.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Thanks for sharing osg.

I still hate that word, which describes a fundamental part of some people's personalities. It's like blaming someone for being born with six fingers on one hand or something. People like yourself need to be watched over, not shamed.

Can we start proscribing "slut" as ableist language?

 

[Edith_UK]

OSG wow, thanks for that. Just... I'm (almost ) lost for words. Never heard of ANYTHING like that, it's wow bonkers lol. How the fuck did you end up in that situation??!! How did you meet your man, you said almost your entire adult life, just... how? Please tell me to stfu if them questions are rude. But Christ is this for real? You've worked for a man, no money, out of choice, you LIKE that? Why hun?

Only girls I know who I'd class as slaves are trafficked. Eastern European usually. Not that I *know* any cos obviously I'd be down the police station quick sharp to get em help cos that shit it very wrong.

But when I were touring down the Heathrow hotels a while back I met a girl working out of South London, she were saying the number of punters she gets who complain of bait n switch is high. Bait n switch is classic trafficked, different girl in pics or on phone to one at the booking. And you can read it in field reports (you have FRs in the states, where punters review working girls online? WGs usually put FRs on there sites or adult work profiles, kinda like positive feedback yer?). Anyway FRs about trafficked girls are often: dint speak any English, led there unresponsive, cried, booker outside. Shit like that.

It's fuckin sad. Makes me so angry. What kind of piece of shit fucks a crying scared girl then writes a negative FR? Them girls are proper slaves, fucked up. You ain't like that are you mate? You could leave anytime? Your not afraid? Still think it's wrong you never got paid though.

Only girl I ever met who I thought was trafficked we were both well young. Sat in a leisure centre (fuk knows why maybe hotel wasn't safe). Both of us waiting. She were crying and her boyfriend were stood next to her, she spoke no English. I just looked at my shoes cos I dint know what to do (in my defense I were well young and my boyfriend were just down the road). Fuck knows what happened to her. Slavery like that, fuckin wrong.

 

[His_pet_slut]

I do love the direction this thread went...

and for some odd reason I want to watch Oklahoma!....*hums I'm just a girl who can't say no*....



Slut is a term of endearment in my relationship and among select friends....and while I love and adore sex, and have since my late adolescence, I am a picky slut. M~ frequently rolls his eyes over that one...but, yeah. I like sex, I like making people happy and am pretty confident that everyone that has had sex with me was happy with the experience.

Have y'all read the book The Ethical Slut? I think that describes me well...

 

[eastern sun]

and actually Stella, as a whore i did choose my partners. of course my Master always had veto power, but it was important to him that i have the ability to find the sort of men who needed me most. and now i continue to see those men, but the whore aspect has been taken out of it...the relationship and its boundaries have been established, there is great mutual trust, so they are now free to just use me as they will, however i may be needed at the time.

and naturally i am still a slut and always will be...it is my restrictive lifestyle as a slave which saves me from myself there.

I didn't know you chose your own partners. . . This could be me without the overtly therapeutic aspect (though I've certainly thought I served that purpose in some cases).

 

[ownedsubgal]

es, it is the only time i have been able to choose who used my body. and even with that being my Master's will, it was only possible because of the unconventional method by which i met clients: taking weeks or even months to get to know them truly, their personality/needs/desires/ambitions/etc. via many email and phone conversations. if at any point a misunderstanding or incompatibility was noticed, i could just cut it off then and there (politely of course). it was the only way to insure i found the right kind of men.

 

[eastern sun]

es, it is the only time i have been able to choose who used my body. and even with that being my Master's will, it was only possible because of the unconventional method by which i met clients: taking weeks or even months to get to know them truly, their personality/needs/desires/ambitions/etc. via many email and phone conversations. if at any point a misunderstanding or incompatibility was noticed, i could just cut it off then and there (politely of course). it was the only way to insure i found the right kind of men.

I understand this. I identify with your experience more than you can imagine. And also recognize that your experience is your own and not the same as mine.

Has your Master ever cut off interactions with you while you were engaged with others? Or given you your clients and then taken on other slaves?

That's where my weak point lies.

 

[Blase]

I still hate that word, which describes a fundamental part of some people's personalities. It's like blaming someone for being born with six fingers on one hand or something. People like yourself need to be watched over, not shamed.

Can we start proscribing "slut" as ableist language?

I had to look up "ableist language" to make sure I knew what you meant, but a quick look at some search results showed me that this is language that discriminates against people who have a disability; like calling someone who uses a wheelchair a "cripple".

I think you'll have a hard time getting a supermajority on that one, Stella, given the number of thoughtful and sincere Litsters, like HPS, who use the term in a celebratory rather than a derogatory sense. Not to mention that, well, this is a BDSM board, so you're talking to people who routinely do or say things that, in ordinary contexts, are considered offensive or even abusive. (Granted that a broad reading of the previous sentence could be applied to many vanilla people as well...)

I don't believe that there's really much awareness of slut as a term identifying a class of people like OSG who appear to have an objective physiological or psychological condition (which would clinically be termed nymphomania, hypersexuality or sexual addiction). It was, and mostly remains, another manifestation of the tactic of maintaining male control in society by attacking a mythical seductive female.

All in all, I think that we can make a better case for reclaiming the term than for adding another proscription to PC regulations.

 

[His_pet_slut]

Thank you for seeing where I was coming from, Blase.

A former lover describes his perfect woman as a 'trophyslut'. A woman of self-confidence and sensuality. A woman that knows a dress that clings in all the right places, yet leaves plenty to the imagination is far more seductive than one that is too short or low cut... A woman that if you walk into a restaurant or bar with her, every man and a good part of the women will be looking at her, not because she is exceptionally beautiful, rather that she exudes a love of sex and every man in there just knows the fella she is with will be going home to mind-blowing, no holes or holds barred sex...and wishes it was with him/her.

I've been told I fit that bill and took it as what it was, an incredible compliment. Besides, I'd far rather be a trophyslut than a trophy wife...just sayin'

 

[Blase]

I've been told I fit that bill and took it as what it was, an incredible compliment. Besides, I'd far rather be a trophyslut than a trophy wife...just sayin'

And I just want to say, His_pet_slut, that, in your case... the seductive female I referred to? Not mythical at all.