Should we kill Tim McViegh?

[Samuari]

Tim Mc Veigh allowed his option to seek clemency to expire this past week, and thereby virtually insured that he will be put to death in early May. This will bring to a close a chapter in American History, perhaps prematurely. While there is no doubt (in my mind, at least) that Mc Veigh is guilty, and deserves the death penalty; there are a lot of unanswered questions that may forever be unanswered if Tim dies before he breaks his silence.

Investigators ranging from his trail attorney Steven Jones, to the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, and including the District Attorney for Oklahoma County who has separate indictments pending against Mc Veigh, all conclude that this was a much wider conspiracy then the three men that the government says are solely responsible. If there are other conspirators at large, it seems to me that the republic is still in danger, and that this crime could be repeated.

Should we accede to the bomber's wishes, and allow him to die for his crimes before the full extent of the seditious scheme is brought to the light of day, and all of those involved are brought to the bar of justice? Frankly, I am not sure that there is any way to delay the execution, but should we?

 

[Siren]

he wants to be a martyr for his cause so let him.

 

[Thumper]

I say no..

Make the fucking coward grow real old in a solitary cell with the pictures of his victims in plain view.

Killing him will make him a martyr for the other idiots like himself. These people need no more "rallying" points.

They will forget him if we let him waste away.

 

[Samuari]

Thanks Siren and Thumper. The musem opens next week accross the street from the bomb site, so emotions are running high all across the state. The two events couple together to create lots of nightmares. It does almost make you wish for the rack or some other way of draging the truth out of McVeigh. No, I would sacrifice my rights on the alter of expedentcy, but sometimes...

 

[teresafannin]

The whole truth will never come out. I don't think McVeigh will ever talk. No matter whether he is alive or dead, he will be considered a martyr by some lunatic fringe group. He wants the death penalty, give it to him. Unless they put him in solitary, I doubt he would survive long in prison, anyway.Look what happened to Jeffry Dahmer. I already got flamed once on this subject, so won't say anymore.

 

[Cheri]

I guess I'm a pacifist, cause I don't like death in any of it's forms....abortion, euthenasia or the death penalty. While it seems ridiculous to lump the three of them together, they all deal with death and they all freak me out.
A bit more on topic, I agree with Siren, if he hasn't spoken by now, he won't. I also agree with the Oklahoma officials, this is not the work of 3 men, but then again I've always said that. (Good thing my family already thinks I'm a conspiracy freak.) So where does that leave us with McVeigh? If he wants to die, let him but don't televise is and give in to our baser instincts. This does not need to become common place in our society and doing this one will open the door on that. But I also agree with Thumper, make the next few months of his live hell by making him look at the pic of the fireman carrying out the limp body of the dead baby out of the wreckage. That is the single image that has stuck with me from that tragedy, and if he has any heart it wil break viewing it.

 

[Nobody Special's wife]

I think death penalty is good...But then I'm always for eye for eye tooth for tooth kind of person.....

Just think if they didn't kill him what other damage he could of done and probably would of if he got a chance to ....THe sad thing tho History always repeats it self....


So I say Put the bastard down..We wouldn't want him to tell some other ass hole what to do next and kill some more innocent people...

THE WIFE

 

[Samuari]

Teresa and Cheri, I don't know that even that picture that broke this country's heart could have an effect on him. Steven Jones didn't think so. I supose that we will put him down. The TV hook up that is being proposed, at least as I understand it is to accomadate the nearly 300 victims and thier families that have contacted the Justice Department to witness the execution. It is my understanding that it would be a closed circut arrangment simular to the one used at the trail in Denver.

NSWife (and what a lucky man he is), The people that ordered this crime are still out there, and that is but one of the realy scary aspects of this case. I have known Steven Jones for 20 years. He is not a conspircy nut, or an alaramist whacko and if he is frightened, so am I.

 

[DriveSouth]

Let him live ...

Wallpaper his cell with photos of his victims and the bomb site and let him live ...

Seems like State sponsored suicide to me.

 

[willywanker]

I think we should tie him to one of his bombs and light a long fuse that he can watch burn ever closer, closer, BOOM.

I do agree that there are probably more than three people involved but would be willing to bet that the people at the top of the pyramid never even met the errand boys at the bottom. McVay might be able, if he ever would, to tell them about some people on the next level, but personally, I'd bet he's never met Mr. Big.

 

[ranajja]

Killin's too good for the likes of him

I agree with Thumper and DriveSouth, let the bastard live.

Put him in a room by himself for the rest of his miserable life with nothing but pictures and videos of the people he murdered running 24/7/365. Nothing else.

I hereby volunteer to send enough $$$ for his meals to keep his sorry tail alive.

He wants to die so much, let him live.

 

[Siren]

we cant let him live and suffer by looking at the pictures of his victims 24/7

 

[Comshaw]

As I said in a previous thread; It's like taking care of a rabid dog, get rid of him permanently. Shoot him, gas him, electrocute him, hang him, do what ever is necessary, but kill him. it has nothing what so ever to do with being a deterrent to crime. It has nothing to do with being a punishment for the crime. It has everything to do with removing a threat to society, permanently.

Comshaw

 

[Samuari]

WOW! Remind me to never, ever piss you off Siren! I just watched the dedication of the Museum, and it brought back a lot of memories of that horible week. Two things that really stood out in the Govenor's address: 1) There were over 600 buildings destroyed or damaged and not one case of looting. 2)That every dependent of those who were killed will have their education paid for to whatever level they chose to pursue it. Far better to have not had the need to do it, but still good to know that this community is able to pull together when it needs to. But for right now, yeah you're right, McVeigh is useing to much space.

 

[Max]

Well, a hard call to make, but since he wants to be executed, let him rot in jail for the rest of his life.

 

[*Eve*]

I am not a big fan of the death penalty but for sicko like McVeigh we should come up with something creative like putting him in a building and blow that up so he knows how it feels.

 

[Royal_Prince]

amend the eighth

Put a little * and have a few exceptions for cruel and unusual punishment! Then think of some cruel things to do to him.

(4 the record I am not a big supporter of the death penalty)

 

[Cheri]

Two things that really stood out in the Govenor's address: 1) There were over 600 buildings destroyed or damaged and not one case of looting. 2)That every dependent of those who were killed will have their education paid for to whatever level they chose to pursue it. Far better to have not had the need to do it, but still good to know that this community is able to pull together when it needs to.

I didn't know either one of those, but it makes me feel better about society as a whole and we as human beings that this is the case. Honor and compassion in the face of cruelty and hatred is wonderful.

 

[Samuari]

Cheri, I missed part of the Presidents address, but I just heard the clip on the local news: "You brought to life the worfds of St Paul 'Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil the good'. When the terrorist sought to devide you with this act, you came together, and proved that good will overcome evil."

I was so proud of my neighbors.

 

[FlamingoBlue]

The simple answer is yes!!!

Since that is the law and he recieved a fair trial, then I believe he should die. Especially since that's what he wants. In fact, we ought to thank him right before he gets his lethal injection, for saving the people of the USA about $3,000,000 in legal fees an $30,000/ year in jail costs.

For me, this is a no brainer. The man is a sociopath who doesn't deserve to live any longer. Frankly, I think his death will help bring closure to the lives of his victims families. What possible reason could there be for keeping HIM alive??

This does not mean that I am totally in agreement with the death penalty, because I am not. I believe that it is not fairly applied, particularly where the accussed does not recieve the best counsel available. But, in this case, the man recieved very good representation. So, bye bye, Timmy, and may you burn in Hell, forever!!!


blue

 

[teresafannin]

One of my best friends lives in OKC & during the tragedy, she kept me up to date on how the community pulled together. I think the people of OKC, as well as the whole state did an excellent job trying to take care of each other. I went to visit the memorial last summer & even without the museum, it was very emotional. The one thing I saw on the news that really irritated is some stupied national reporter wondering why there wasn't anything about McVeigh in the museum. What is up with that? The museum is to remember & honor those that were lost, McVeigh got enough press coverage, it is the victims & survivors who are important.