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Call me when Trump tries to coverup a blowjob in the oval office. Anyone who does that should be impeached immediately.
 
richard_daily said:
However, campaign finance laws WERE broken. The question is, who knew, and at what point? Trump's attorney is in deep shit. Is the president as well? That will have to come out in discovery.
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Some of the irony with this is that if Trump had made the payment instead of Cohen, there would be no violation of campaign finance law.

If it can be shown Trump put Cohen up to it, he's likely in legal jeopardy for a different reason. That's likely why he is being quiet about it now.
 
Pookie said:
https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=93898089-0687-4bda-9119-ffd520748ea7
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That's a contract involving work for hire... Since Trump didn't pay Daniels for sex, there was no "work for hire" involved in this contract, and as such, no contract was formed.

From your link:

The appeals court, citing earlier case law, held that where all parties do not sign a proposed contract but one party still performs the work, an implied contract forms under the terms of that proposal.
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Pookie said:
Some of the irony with this is that if Trump had made the payment instead of Cohen, there would be no violation of campaign finance law.

If it can be shown Trump put Cohen up to it, he's likely in legal jeopardy for a different reason. That's likely why he is being quiet about it now.
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But if Trump made the payment, he'd have shown that he was buying someone's silence directly.

The moral of the story: don't be a scumbag.
 
Trump’s claim, made by his lawyer Marc Kasowitz, is that the president’s speech was political and therefore protected by the first amendment.

It’s an extraordinary claim – that a politician can say whatever he wants about a private citizen, even if it’s a lie, and the person on the receiving end of his denigrations has no recourse. It’s also Trump’s strategy: insult, bully and threaten people until they do your bidding.
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https://www.theguardian.com/comment...air-claims-doesnt-look-good-president-america
 
FGB said:
I...so far am having a difficult time finding Trump in some kind of legal fault here.

So far to me, it looks like some money hungry whores are breaking a legal agreement that Trump may or may not had them to sign as in his attorney was covering his ass for him as he should have.

As for Trump's other relations at the time if there was any that is between them and it would seem that all parties knew what he was (womanizer, doesn't seem to hide it much.) and perhaps accepted it.

From all the winking and sly smiles and slight nods, that I am seeing from the news people they are going to ride the situation for all it's worth...and that is the relative neutral ones!:rolleyes:

I expect most very rich people, both male and female make arrangements of some kind for long term affairs or fucks...
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He is just a douchebag. And the evangelicals and catholics are hypocrites.

And - the unreported in-kind political contribution is against the law.
 
FGB said:
I...so far am having a difficult time finding Trump in some kind of legal fault here.

So far to me, it looks like some money hungry whores are breaking a legal agreement that Trump may or may not had them to sign as in his attorney was covering his ass for him as he should have.

As for Trump's other relations at the time if there was any that is between them and it would seem that all parties knew what he was (womanizer, doesn't seem to hide it much.) and perhaps accepted it.

From all the winking and sly smiles and slight nods, that I am seeing from the news people they are going to ride the situation for all it's worth...and that is the relative neutral ones!:rolleyes:

I expect most very rich people, both male and female make arrangements of some kind for long term affairs or fucks...
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Also in FGB's databank of false facts: Tricky Dick Nixon was not a crook.

Seriously!
 
richard_daily said:
Bill Clinton was blackmailed into conspiring with a hostile foreign government?

Explain that one for me.
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Dude, we're communicating through memes, they are little thought experiments, not meant to be taken literally.
 
richard_daily said:
That's a contract involving work for hire... Since Trump didn't pay Daniels for sex, there was no "work for hire" involved in this contract, and as such, no contract was formed.

From your link:
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Not a relevant distinction. Cohen paid Daniels for a service. She violated an agreement she accepted money for. Courts have recognized enforceable implied contracts for quite a variety of services.
 
This isn't complicated.

trump fucked a porn star, then paid her off to shut her up.

The porn star saw potential to make lots more money by breaking that agreement
(OMG :eek: shocker!)

trump may be in legal trouble trying to hide the way she got paid off
(OMG :eek: shocker!)

Yawn.
 
help_me_Rhonda said:
This isn't complicated.

trump fucked a porn star, then paid her off to shut her up.

The porn star saw potential to make lots more money by breaking that agreement
(OMG :eek: shocker!)

trump may be in legal trouble trying to hide the way she got paid off
(OMG :eek: shocker!)

Yawn.
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And the Family Values Morally Upstanding Good Christian Peoples crowd is still hanging with Cheeto because they're temporarily embarrassed millionaires waiting for him to give them their raisin in the sun and a wall to keep out the bad brownies like he promised.
(OMG :eek: atomic bomb!)

:D
 
Actually, I need to backtrack a wee bit on my claim about their being a contract. If the contract was only between Daniels and Cohen, it appears it would be a violation of campaign finance law which makes the contract null. If Trump can be shown to be involved, and there is evidence that the Trump Organization was involved (email using Trump email server/domain), then it would remain a valid implied contract. Time will tell.
 
Pookie said:
Actually, I need to backtrack a wee bit on my claim about their being a contract. If the contract was only between Daniels and Cohen, it appears it would be a violation of campaign finance law which makes the contract null. If Trump can be shown to be involved, and there is evidence that the Trump Organization was involved (email using Trump email server/domain), then it would remain a valid implied contract. Time will tell.
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The lawyer had some interesting emails, fedex delivery receipts and the like that had Cohen using "dchohen@realtrump.com" and Trump Plaza to conduct the whole payoff.

And yes rhonda - no shockers, just good theatre.
 
HisArpy said:
Lol. Winner - NOT!

A binding contract requires a writing containing the terms and conditions for which there is consideration and which is signed by the party to be charged.

If you're relying on first year law students to give you legal advice I'd suggest you hire a real lawyer. One who understands that little thing called the Statute of Frauds.

The NDA may not be "fully executed" but it WAS executed by Stormy Daniels. She is bound by the terms within should Trump decide to enforce them.
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LOL Did you attend the Queerbait School of Law?

I suggest you try and purchase a home using your novel method above (one side dictates terms and signs unilaterally). Let us know how that turns out for you.
 
BoyNextDoor said:
The lawyer had some interesting emails, fedex delivery receipts and the like that had Cohen using "dchohen@realtrump.com" and Trump Plaza to conduct the whole payoff.

And yes rhonda - no shockers, just good theatre.
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Likely Trump will be shown to be a party, which will save Cohen a whole lot of legal trouble.

Either the contract is void, or the contract's liquidated damages provision will get thrown out by a judge because of the way it is written. She won't be paying Trump any money for not keeping quiet.
 
RobDownSouth said:
LOL Did you attend the Queerbait School of Law?

I suggest you try and purchase a home using your novel method above (one side dictates terms and signs unilaterally). Let us know how that turns out for you.
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There was too much crazy in his post for me to deal with. :D
 
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