Shameless self-promotion (Group Sex)

[foolishlittleone]

Hi,

I've worked hard on a new story and it's initially gotten a great rating on the group sex list. (4.85 with 71 votes as I write this, #7 on the top list) So I not only want to plug it ask you want you'd like to see in this category. One person who commented publicly on Total Stimulation said she/he "came three times," others mentioned how descriptive the story was.

These sorts of responses meet my own desires as a writer of erotic fiction. Just as writing the story turns me on, I hope that readers get excited rather quickly and I can lead them through a series of erotic encounters that keeps them coming back to that sexual peak. On top of that, I hope to provide some compelling characters rather than cardboard cutouts -- more or less real people rather than cartoons. What I don't strive for is any sort of meaningful plot. That is, while I hope the story remains (mostly) believable, my focus is on arousal not literature. It's something that "could happen" even though it's unlikely. Heck, if it was likely we'd all be doing it rather than writing/reading about it.

So what is it that turns you on? What makes a story a 5 rather than a 4 or a 3? What are the ingredients of the "perfect" group sex story? (I specifiy that category because I think the criteria might vary even more greatly otherwise.)

 

[Mr_Neb]

I highly subjective topic to be sure but this is what it takes to get a five out of me...

Good Plot
The story has to set up how and why the characters will end up having sex. The pacing should be reasonable. Not three pages to get to the sex and not three sentences. The plot devices should be interesting, believable, and not to trite or cliché.

Good Characters
I don't need a dossier on each but certainly the story should take the time to develop some level of personality and behavioral traits for the main characters.

Good Sex
Descriptive, passionate, and sensual. Not mechanical. There needs to be more than "Tab A inserted into Slot B." Good sex in real life can stimulate all five senses. There is no reason why written good sex can't do the same.

An Ending
Bring the reader down and tie it all up with something better than "we came. The End." A good story is a lot like good sex. There are at least three parts, foreplay, the big event(s), and the afterglow.

So there you have my two cents.

 

[foolishlittleone]

Thanks, MrNeb, that's quite helpful. I'm only beginning to think more about structure and writing -- so far just doing what pleases me. I like your breakdown.

 

[Lorianna]

I like the character description to be left to the reader's imaginations. I especially appreciate this, as I am very picky about the protagonist(caucasion, black hair or brunette, young) But I enjoy projecting myself into the plot, and if the only thing that is mentioned of the protagonist is gender, and the gender is female, I can fill in the rest to my liking and thusly project myself into the plot, or atleast relate. The same can be said of the secondary characters, that way I can decide on what type of person I'm interacting with, hehehe.

I guess it would be ok to list ethnicity, body type as well as gender

I do enjoy descriptive sex scenes, and I especially like the wild and raw ones.

 

[jomar]

I do enjoy descriptive sex scenes, and I especially like the wild and raw ones.

I too like Mr_Neb's beakdown - but don't read mine if you use that scheme. Well, maybe Chase Cooder, but be forewarned it's over the top.

And Lorianna, if you like it wild and raw, perhaps you'd like my two White Trash stories, but don't expect anything like a plot or character development in these.

 

[Jenny_Jackson]

Character Driven Plots. That requres the writer to "flesh out" who the characters are - not what they look like (who gives a rat's ass about 38HH boobs ) - and the characters have to move the plot along in a realistic way. Get those down and you can write any kind of story, it will be believable and the readers will vote accordingly.

 

[Mr_Neb]

So here is my take on character descriptions......

No numbers or other value descriptors. I think it is pointless to know the lengths and girths of penises, breast sizes, etc. It would be the rare story indeed where these quantifications would matter.

However, I do like other forms of descriptors. Tall, petite, sultry, strong, frail, voluptuous, etc. are great with me. They can be interpreted by the reader from their point of view but give the author to inject traits into the characters. The same thing goes for emotions. I like to use, and like it when other authors use, words that get a particular the point across but allow the reader to inject their own concepts of these words.

 

[JamesSD]

These sorts of responses meet my own desires as a writer of erotic fiction. Just as writing the story turns me on, I hope that readers get excited rather quickly and I can lead them through a series of erotic encounters that keeps them coming back to that sexual peak. On top of that, I hope to provide some compelling characters rather than cardboard cutouts -- more or less real people rather than cartoons. What I don't strive for is any sort of meaningful plot. That is, while I hope the story remains (mostly) believable, my focus is on arousal not literature. It's something that "could happen" even though it's unlikely. Heck, if it was likely we'd all be doing it rather than writing/reading about it.

So what is it that turns you on? What makes a story a 5 rather than a 4 or a 3? What are the ingredients of the "perfect" group sex story? (I specifiy that category because I think the criteria might vary even more greatly otherwise.)

I think you and I have a similar approach to writing, along with enjoyinig some of the same things in erotic stories. I do disagree with your implication that a story that focuses on sex lacks meaningful plot. The set-up of the sex, and the actual sex itself can be plot. And I also try to write and prefer stories that are "plausible, if somewhat unlikely". I did read your story, and I enjoyed a lot of aspects to it.

If your goal is a high score in group sex, you're on the right track in that MFF threesomes score highly. MFM do okay, but a lot of the readers around here, especially in group sex, are hetero men, and men like threesomes with two women.

The difference between a 5 and a 4 will vary a lot for the individual reader. Either score generally requires some level of characterization, "hotness" and generally correct grammar.

 

[keeblercrumb]

Hi,

I've worked hard on a new story and it's initially gotten a great rating on the group sex list. (4.85 with 71 votes as I write this, #7 on the top list) So I not only want to plug it ask you want you'd like to see in this category. One person who commented publicly on Total Stimulation said she/he "came three times," others mentioned how descriptive the story was.

These sorts of responses meet my own desires as a writer of erotic fiction. Just as writing the story turns me on, I hope that readers get excited rather quickly and I can lead them through a series of erotic encounters that keeps them coming back to that sexual peak. On top of that, I hope to provide some compelling characters rather than cardboard cutouts -- more or less real people rather than cartoons. What I don't strive for is any sort of meaningful plot. That is, while I hope the story remains (mostly) believable, my focus is on arousal not literature. It's something that "could happen" even though it's unlikely. Heck, if it was likely we'd all be doing it rather than writing/reading about it.

So what is it that turns you on? What makes a story a 5 rather than a 4 or a 3? What are the ingredients of the "perfect" group sex story? (I specifiy that category because I think the criteria might vary even more greatly otherwise.)

The advice given here is all great..... but I got to tell you bad grammar, plots, lack of characterizations, etc.... is not nearly as important to me from an erotic standpoint as whether or not I believe it. The other stuff just keeps me from being distracted from this basic attribute. I will admit that my tolerance for these distractions (bad writing) has lessened over the years.

Perhaps it is my own kink, but I get much more turned on if I think the story is either true (sic) or at least gives me the impression the author is "turned on" while writing it, like they are sharing their personal erotic fantasy with me.

I guess that is why I prefer first person narratives.....

But again... perhaps only my kink.

-KC

 

[foolishlittleone]

I think you and I have a similar approach to writing, along with enjoyinig some of the same things in erotic stories. I do disagree with your implication that a story that focuses on sex lacks meaningful plot. The set-up of the sex, and the actual sex itself can be plot. And I also try to write and prefer stories that are "plausible, if somewhat unlikely". I did read your story, and I enjoyed a lot of aspects to it.

I guess "plot" is relative (to me anyhow) to the sex acts in the story. I'm looking to at least motivate the sex acts in a way that's not too absurd -- and maybe that's what you are getting at. For me there are two things going on. First, some situation that puts actors in a place where sex is happening. And secondly, some amount of "story" or "motivation" that makes the interactions seem plausible. If the result was a perfectly believable scenario then I doubt it would be very enticing. That's what I take you to mean by "plausible, if somewhat unlikely."

For me, the idea is to push past the reality just enough to create some especially erotic encounters. Not so much that they seem ricidulous ,but just enough that they could happen. It's a fine line which everyone draws differently.

 

[foolishlittleone]

Perhaps it is my own kink, but I get much more turned on if I think the story is either true (sic) or at least gives me the impression the author is "turned on" while writing it, like they are sharing their personal erotic fantasy with me.

I hear you. I figure if I suceed in doing what you describe here then it's worth it to have submitted my story to Literotica. Of course, if my story doesn't meet your criteria then little harm is done. You wasted a little time examining it. Not a big deal in the grand scheme.

 

[gentlehand]

A query -

I'm new to the lit forum... and relatively new to posting my writing anywhere.

I really appreciated the title of this thread (and the commentary in it) and am wondering - is there a way to ask people to read and let one know about their thoughts on posted story, without it sounding like "shameless self-promotion"?

Thanks - gh

 

[keeblercrumb]

I'm new to the lit forum... and relatively new to posting my writing anywhere.

I really appreciated the title of this thread (and the commentary in it) and am wondering - is there a way to ask people to read and let one know about their thoughts on posted story, without it sounding like "shameless self-promotion"?

Thanks - gh

Don't worry about the "shameless self-promotion" thing.... go ahead and ask! But make it is easy by having a link to your story.... Cannot guarantee anyone will actually do it.... (many here on the AH who are inexplicably pretty much centered on discussing the world's problems.. but they are entertaining!) but you can always ask. It might be worth asking before you post too!

Besides.... even posting a story here kinda gets you past the "shameless" thing...

-KC

 

[gentlehand]

Don't worry about the "shameless self-promotion" thing.... go ahead and ask! ...

Besides.... even posting a story here kinda gets you past the "shameless" thing...

-KC

Thanks, KC... having wandered the forum, I think I've found the place to post the link and invite - ummm - comment. *grin*

gh

 

[xssve]

I really dug the sort of decompressed way you handled the pacing, you managed to really milk the tension out without going too over the top at once, or breaking it, just kept it taut - not easy to do over, what was it, five or six pages? Pretty hot stuff.