Serial Killer Movies....

[Kantarii]

Are you a fan of serial killer movies?

My favorites are: Seven, Silence of the lambs, The bone collector, and a lesser known movie called The Cell.

Part of me wants to delve in and write a story along those lines, but the shear complexity of those type stories makes me respect those that write them; humbles me enough to not attempt to write one.

Thoughts?

 

[sr71plt]

I avoid them.

 

[lovecraft68]

The ones you mentioned and

Red Dragon-prequel to Lambs

American Psycho

I think se7en is the all time best

For Novels read Michael Slades Ghoul.

I wrote one here, Every Dog has its Day.

 

[shewantsmore]

Loved seven and the bone collecter ,sotl ok

 

[Bramblethorn]

Less than I used to. SotL was a brilliant movie, despite its flaws; Hannibal Lecter was great as a foil for Starling, but ultimately SotL was Starling's story. Since then, though, there seems to be more of a tendency to center the story on the sociopaths, make them the "hero", and that gives me the creeps in a non-enjoyable way.

 

[J_R_Ashunwhy]

Are you a fan of serial killer movies?

My favorites are: Seven, Silence of the lambs, The bone collector, and a lesser known movie called The Cell.

Part of me wants to delve in and write a story along those lines, but the shear complexity of those type stories makes me respect those that write them; humbles me enough to not attempt to write one.

Thoughts?

The Cell is not lesser known.

All of those, yes, plus:

Nightmare on Elm Street
Halloween
Friday the 13th
Hannibal
Hannibal Rising
Red Dragon
Satan's Little Helper
My Bloody Valentine
Final Destination ...if Death counts as a serial killer
Saw
Death Proof
The Watcher
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

I just like watching people make awful decisions, and then having to own up to them.

 

[Kantarii]

The Cell is not lesser known.

All of those, yes, plus:

Nightmare on Elm Street
Halloween
Friday the 13th
Hannibal
Hannibal Rising
Red Dragon
Satan's Little Helper
My Bloody Valentine
Final Destination ...if Death counts as a serial killer
Saw
Death Proof
The Watcher
Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street

I just like watching people make awful decisions, and then having to own up to them.

Hey,now, I fucking loved the "Final Destination" movies. Part 2 was my favorite of all of them. The classic horror movies you listed are all great. Friday the 13th being the classic best

 

[J_R_Ashunwhy]

I figured serial killer...psycho slasher...same thing.

Friday the 13th being the classic best

Any of those series just became progressively more awkward as they continued until they all became full parodies of themselves, but out of the original movies in each, Elm Street gets my vote. As dark as his back-story is, Freddy, is one of my favorite characters.

 

[ColetteJulie]

Are you a fan of serial killer movies?

My favorites are: Seven, Silence of the lambs, The bone collector, and a lesser known movie called The Cell.

Part of me wants to delve in and write a story along those lines, but the shear complexity of those type stories makes me respect those that write them; humbles me enough to not attempt to write one.

Thoughts?

If you look into the abyss, it looks into you. Think Samuel Taylor Coleridge said it. We all have a dark side, yet we are not evil, merely imaginative, if you write horror, you must accept that side of yourself. When I write horror, I must get into the mind of the bad guy, I must want to hurt and kill others and relish in it. If that makes any sense.

 

[lovecraft68]

If you look into the abyss, it looks into you. Think Samuel Taylor Coleridge said it. We all have a dark side, yet we are not evil, merely imaginative, if you write horror, you must accept that side of yourself. When I write horror, I must get into the mind of the bad guy, I must want to hurt and kill others and relish in it. If that makes any sense.

Total sense and its the same as the erotica author who is writing fantasies they have never experienced and for whatever reason would never want to, but they can write a hot story about it.

I've been told that if someone were to cut me I'd bleed malice so I have no issues with writing any type of violence. I have a scene in one of my submissions here that several people called out in feedback and said they wished me well getting issues resolved.

To me that's a resounding success.

 

[ColetteJulie]

Total sense and its the same as the erotica author who is writing fantasies they have never experienced and for whatever reason would never want to, but they can write a hot story about it.

I've been told that if someone were to cut me I'd bleed malice so I have no issues with writing any type of violence. I have a scene in one of my submissions here that several people called out in feedback and said they wished me well getting issues resolved.

To me that's a resounding success.

Hear, hear. I could not write erotica/porn without accepting my sexual side. There's just a small problem when combining those two sides - you write stories about violence that get rejected from ASSR, and the Kristen Archives, and the rape forum, and the beastiality forum... especially the beastie forum, apparently they condone sex with animals, but will reject your story if you shoot your animal lover. They are worse than the RSPCA.

And I totally believe you would bleed something other than blood lovecraft, was it you who murdered the rat?

 

[lovecraft68]

And I totally believe you would bleed something other than blood lovecraft, was it you who murdered the rat?

Rat? What Rat? I don't know any rats! I was playing darts that night, I have witnesses ! I plead the fifth dammit!

 

[R. Richard]

I have seen nothing to top the scene in The Monster That Devoured Cleveland where the monster rapes a passenger train, crushing the passengers to death.

 

[HeyAll]

A Walk Among the Tombstone is a recent excellent investigation movie.

Child 44 is also great.

Both are highly underatted.

 

[Kantarii]

A Walk Among the Tombstone is a recent excellent investigation movie.

Child 44 is also great.

Both are highly underatted.

I'll have to check them outKant

 

[Lori_the_Hoosier]

wrong thread, sorry

 

[jomar]

If you haven't seen it check out Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

A 1986 movie based on a true story. Grim, but good.

 

[Kantarii]

If you haven't seen it check out Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer.

A 1986 movie based on a true story. Grim, but good.

I'll have to look that one up, thanks

 

[J_R_Ashunwhy]

okay, so not movies--t.v. shows--but if you have Netflix, you may want to check out 'Aquarius' and 'The Following'.

 

[FknNemesis]

Se7en. One of the best movies of all times. Period. Perfect script, brilliant acting and beyond brilliant Spacey. Especially his dialogue in the car, even more so than his 'Detective'.

Henry: Portrait of...
Red Dragon
Silence of...
Psycho
NBK
The Perfume (underrated)
Dahmer (a burner, must watch)
Psycho and American Psycho
To Catch a Killer
Kalifornia (bad movie but there's something about it)
From Hell (does this require to also mention Sweeney Todd?)
Citizen X
Man Bites Dog
M
The Chaser (if you like mindfucks, start digging the whole repertoire of Korean movies... it's a true treasure trove)

[queue list of horror slashers]


Honorable mention: Dexter, the TV series.
I also enjoyed the previously mentioned The Following, especially first two seasons. That is not Bacon biased.

 

[lovecraft68]

okay, so not movies--t.v. shows--but if you have Netflix, you may want to check out 'Aquarius' and 'The Following'.

I started watching the Following, then for some reason fell off. I'm not a TV person and I just tend to drift. My wife couldn't make it past two episodes.

Its interesting in the sense of thinking about what Manson would have been like had he had the internet....and an entire world full of lemmings.

I'm not a 'fan' of Manson. An overrated fraud with little man syndrome who manipulated a bunch of acid freaks whose brains were mush. Sad little coward.

In John Douglas's book Mind Hunter he talked about when he was allowed to interview Manson. Chuckie comes in and sits with his feet on the seat of the chair and his ass on top of it so he could look down on Douglas.

he claimed that was to get an automatic upper hand, have the other person looking up at you. fact is it showed two things. he was a twerp and he knew it.

 

[J_R_Ashunwhy]

I started watching the Following, then for some reason fell off. I'm not a TV person and I just tend to drift. My wife couldn't make it past two episodes.

Its interesting in the sense of thinking about what Manson would have been like had he had the internet....and an entire world full of lemmings.

I'm not a 'fan' of Manson. An overrated fraud with little man syndrome who manipulated a bunch of acid freaks whose brains were mush. Sad little coward.

In John Douglas's book Mind Hunter he talked about when he was allowed to interview Manson. Chuckie comes in and sits with his feet on the seat of the chair and his ass on top of it so he could look down on Douglas.

he claimed that was to get an automatic upper hand, have the other person looking up at you. fact is it showed two things. he was a twerp and he knew it.

'Aquarius' was the Manson one.
The Following is a fictional serial killer using the works of Edgar Allan Poe to start a death cult...but he was really a follower himself to a larger serial killer with his own students, and their own 'cults'.

 

[legerdemer]

Total sense and its the same as the erotica author who is writing fantasies they have never experienced and for whatever reason would never want to, but they can write a hot story about it.

I've been told that if someone were to cut me I'd bleed malice so I have no issues with writing any type of violence. I have a scene in one of my submissions here that several people called out in feedback and said they wished me well getting issues resolved.

To me that's a resounding success.

I couldn't agree more, LC. I would go farther - writing lets you explore things you don't even fantasize about - the what if stories.

But if you really think this, then I am really curious why this particular story and its author got to you so much. I don't think anything in this story is any worse than in SotL.

[I am in no way wishing to (re)start a shit storm, but the question is on topic for the thread, and this has always bothered me.]

 

[lovecraft68]

I couldn't agree more, LC. I would go farther - writing lets you explore things you don't even fantasize about - the what if stories.

But if you really think this, then I am really curious why this particular story and its author got to you so much. I don't think anything in this story is any worse than in SotL.

[I am in no way wishing to (re)start a shit storm, but the question is on topic for the thread, and this has always bothered me.]

No worries on a shit storm. I have to say I can't really say without divulging a personal conversation leading up to it, which I won't do.

So let's say it was not all the story, but the story combined with that discussion. A comment was made o me about the piece, then I read the story and it was the comment, not the piece that set me off. Although torture porn isn't my thing which is what I saw this as, but it was more than the story.

 

[lovecraft68]

'Aquarius' was the Manson one.
The Following is a fictional serial killer using the works of Edgar Allan Poe to start a death cult...but he was really a follower himself to a larger serial killer with his own students, and their own 'cults'.

I know Aquarius was, but whenever you get into 'killer with a crazy cult like following' Manson is who comes to mind. I didn't watch Aquarius for reasons mentioned. My daughter is more dangerous than Manson in his prime. Then again...she is a little nuts so bad example.