"Sent Back"

[MartaMaine]

I've had a srory sent back and I really don't know why.

The message I got is as follows:

Dear Writer,​

Thank you for your submission to Literotica. We appreciate the time and effort you've taken to write a story and submit it to our site . However, we've found that we cannot post your submission in its current form. The checklist below may help you in re-examining your manuscript.​

Please feel free to re-submit the story after a Volunteer Editor has examined it, or after you've made revisions. You can find a list of Volunteer Editors here.​

Please consult our Writer's Resources section and make sure you read our submission guidelines.
If you have any questions on these, please let us know.​

Thanks for your time, and look forward to reading you again!​

I've checked the submission guidelines, but can't see anything that I've done wrong.

 

[Kumquatqueen]

Was there a checklist, or just that bullet point and a blank?

 

[MartaMaine]

Was there a checklist, or just that bullet point and a blank?

The above is a straight copy & paste, so just a bullet point and a blank

 

[EmilyMiller]

The above is a straight copy & paste, so just a bullet point and a blank

PM Laurel with the story ID.

This explains how to do this:

https://forum.literotica.com/threads/stories-pending-over-3-weeks.1650910/#post-102464023

 

[MartaMaine]

Thanks, Emily. I'll give that a try.

 

[Rob_Royale]

The above is a straight copy & paste, so just a bullet point and a blank

Seems to me the rejection reply is corrupted somehow, incomplete. I'd let Laurel know exactly what you received and see if there's more to it.

 

[MartaMaine]

Seems to me the rejection reply is corrupted somehow, incomplete. I'd let Laurel know exactly what you received and see if there's more to it.

Thanks. I've PMd Laurel

 

[BeechLeaf]

Note that you're very unlikely to get a personal reply from Laurel. But if the site got something wrong, the message could get your problem fixed.

 

[MartaMaine]

Out of curiosity, I just ran my story through an AI checker, and it came back as 70% AI. I do hope that wasn't the reason, as none of my stories are AI assisted!

 

[Rob_Royale]

That is a safe bet. There are numerous threads on false positives. I'd try finding some and figure out what you can change about your writing style to prevent it.

 

[MartaMaine]

That is a safe bet. There are numerous threads on false positives. I'd try finding some and figure out what you can change about your writing style to prevent it.

But my style is my style. AI checkers are notoriously unreliable. I just ran it through a different one (mydetector) and it came back with:

 

[NotWise]

If you're using free on-line checkers, always use more than one.

 

[MartaMaine]

If you're using free on-line checkers, always use more than one.

I hope Lit are doing so.

 

[SmilingLez]

I've had a srory sent back and I really don't know why.

The message I got is as follows:


I've checked the submission guidelines, but can't see anything that I've done wrong.

I've gotten those. No reason, no checklist. You didn't trigger any of the filters, but they still won't post your story.

I find it humorous that the instructions are to post your entire story here in the forum which is against the rules.

I've also pm'd Laurel about this and posted in lit tech support to let Manu know. So far no response from either person

 

[EmilyMiller]

But my style is my style. AI checkers are notoriously unreliable. I just ran it through a different one (mydetector) and it came back with:

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Pangram is about the only semi-reliable AI checker. It’s not LLM-based just an old school machine learning application, from before the area became evil. It’s trained on human-written and AI-written text on the same subject area, rather than relying on perplexity and burstiness, or having an underlying LLM.

 

[MartaMaine]

Pangram is about the only semi-reliable AI checker. It’s not LLM-based just an old school machine learning application, from before the area became evil. It’s trained on human-written and AI-written text on the same subject area, rather than relying on perplexity and burstiness, or having an underlying LLM.

Yep, that's the one that gave it 79% Ai. Ai is ruining everything!

 

[EmilyMiller]

Yep, that's the one that gave it 79% Ai. Ai is ruining everything!

Most of the free AI checkers are super unreliable. Pangram’s rep is that it’s good at flagging actual AI, but can sometimes give false positives. I.e. if it’s AI-written, it will be quite good at flagging that. But if it’s human-written, it’s not so good at flagging that.

The result is you weed out virtually all AI-written stuff, at the expense of falsely flagging some innocent stories.

—

DISCLOSURE: I’ve run excerpts from quite a few of my published stories and the same for my WIPs through Pangram and got 100% human-written with high confidence every time. If Pangram says it’s human, it’s very likely human. If it says it’s AI, it could be AI, or it could be making a mistake.

 

[Britva415]

Has anyone https://literotica.com/faq/miscellaneous/report-bugs?

A bare bullet instead of at least one actual reason for rejection cannot be "by design," it has to be a bug.

 

[MartaMaine]

Most of the free AI checkers are super unreliable. Pangram’s rep is that it’s good at flagging actual AI, but can sometimes give false positives. I.e. if it’s AI-written, it will be quite good at flagging that. But if it’s human-written, it’s not so good at flagging that.

The result is you weed out virtually all AI-written stuff, at the expense of falsely flagging some innocent stories.

—

DISCLOSURE: I’ve run excerpts from quite a few of my published stories and the same for my WIPs through Pangram and got 100% human-written with high confidence every time. If Pangram says it’s human, it’s very likely human. If it says it’s AI, it could be AI, or it could be making a mistake.

Well, if "Ai" is the reason, it's a shame because it's a story I really enjoyed writing and wanted to shae it with others

 

[EmilyMiller]

Well, if "Ai" is the reason, it's a shame because it's a story I really enjoyed writing and wanted to shae it with others

No one knows the reason until the site clarifies it, and no one knows what the site uses to check for AI.

 

[MartaMaine]

Most of the free AI checkers are super unreliable. Pangram’s rep is that it’s good at flagging actual AI, but can sometimes give false positives. I.e. if it’s AI-written, it will be quite good at flagging that. But if it’s human-written, it’s not so good at flagging that.

The result is you weed out virtually all AI-written stuff, at the expense of falsely flagging some innocent stories.

—

DISCLOSURE: I’ve run excerpts from quite a few of my published stories and the same for my WIPs through Pangram and got 100% human-written with high confidence every time. If Pangram says it’s human, it’s very likely human. If it says it’s AI, it could be AI, or it could be making a mistake.

Boy, do I feel stupid! What I thought was Pangram was actually "Pangram alternative". I just signed up for a free trial of Pangram and got:

 

[EmilyMiller]

Boy, do I feel stupid! What I thought was Pangram was actually "Pangram alternative". I just signed up for a free trial of Pangram and got:

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That’s good news

 

[MartaMaine]

The message has changed. It would appear that it was my use of Grammarly for spelling/typos that have caused the issue.

 

[EmilyMiller]

The message has changed. It would appear that it was my use of Grammarly for spelling/typos that have caused the issue.

It won’t be for spelling. Grammarly has now incorporated an LLM (aka genAI). Using it for spelling and grammar is fine, many authors do. But accepting any suggestions it makes as to how to reword your sentences leaves you wide open to the risk of AI-based rejection as it’s using AI to make those suggestions. Whatever Lit uses seems very sensitive to Grammarly-generated text.

 

[liliput1]

I am still bored and curious enough about this phenomenon and open to taking a peek, if anyone has a before and after grammarly draft they're willing to send me. I'd love to try to see if there are any patterns to see. This problem seems proximate enough to the sorts of puzzles I like to solve that I think I can probably come up with some theories to try. Just no NC and keep the cheating to a dull roar.