Senseless brutality

[Guest]

Dear god... wtf?

Homeless man slain by teens

i just dont understand. i will never, ever understand this kind of rage. what makes it ok to just kill anyone? what makes it seem like the 'thing to to'?

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Fucking scumbags. May they enjoy a good raping and learn a little about life during their incarceration.

 

[Guest]

Fucking scumbags. May they enjoy a good raping and learn a little about life during their incarceration.

yannow, i dont usually wish evil things
howevah... it would serve them if they weren't able to make a living when they do get out of jail...if they became homeless and were able to see what it felt like.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

yannow, i dont usually wish evil things
howevah... it would serve them if they weren't able to make a living when they do get out of jail...if they became homeless and were able to see what it felt like.

There's an idea. I'm not usually a fan of an eye for an eye, but I wouldn't mind them walking a few hundred miles in their victim's shoes.

 

[zeb1094]

Dear god... wtf?

Homeless man slain by teens

i just dont understand. i will never, ever understand this kind of rage. what makes it ok to just kill anyone? what makes it seem like the 'thing to to'?

Understand? No I don't either. Why? It is all part of the degeneration of parts of our society. A path that is taken by those who don't want to work for the things they get. Those who feel society owes them the thing they want. A part of society that thinks they are above the law and they take what they want from whoever has what they want.

 

[Guest]

Understand? No I don't either. Why? It is all part of the degeneration of parts of our society. A path that is taken by those who don't want to work for the things they get. Those who feel society owes them the thing they want. A part of society that thinks they are above the law and they take what they want from whoever has what they want.

it must be, zebster. i cant think of a single thing that would propel me in that direction. it still makes me cringe...it always will. but im also one who believes that it should be addressed. this seems to be something thats becoming more and more present.

 

[lucky-E-leven]

Understand? No I don't either. Why? It is all part of the degeneration of parts of our society. A path that is taken by those who don't want to work for the things they get. Those who feel society owes them the thing they want. A part of society that thinks they are above the law and they take what they want from whoever has what they want.

I agree that this something for nothing attitude is a huge issue today, though I don't feel that was the issue here. It appears to me that a large majority of parents feel the need to be best friends with their kids in lieu of being parents first. Thus, they protect them from any ills or real responsibility as well as sheltering them from any ugly reality, leaving them fairly clueless as to the true gravity of certain things ... like the value of another's life, or the responsibility of taking it with your own actions.

 

[zeb1094]

it must be, zebster. i cant think of a single thing that would propel me in that direction. it still makes me cringe...it always will. but im also one who believes that it should be addressed. this seems to be something thats becoming more and more present.

Yes it should be addressed. But how do you get parents that should never have had children to begin with, take on the responsiblity they gave up long ago. Those same parents that sat at home on their respective butts and watched Oprah all day while letting thier children fend for themselves out on the streets.

 

[cheerful_deviant]

I know people say that there is some good in everyone and that everyone has something to offer to society but personally I believe that there are a few poeple out ther who have absolutly no redeaming qualities at all. If they were to be whiped off the face of the earth at this second no one would shed one tear.

Anyone who has that little regard for another person, any person isn't even really a human and is just an animal.

 

[zeb1094]

I agree that this something for nothing attitude is a huge issue today, though I don't feel that was the issue here. It appears to me that a large majority of parents feel the need to be best friends with their kids in lieu of being parents first. Thus, they protect them from any ills or real responsibility as well as sheltering them from any ugly reality, leaving them fairly clueless as to the true gravity of certain things ... like the value of another's life, or the responsibility of taking it with your own actions.

The action taked by children or young adults, is caused by what they do or don't learn at home. So the beating of someone who their parents see as a nothing, a bug smear on the windsheild of life, would be no cause for concern for them.

Of course the shocked parents will ask themselves where they went wrong and will never think it was anything they did or didn't do! Big surprise there.

 

[zeb1094]

I know people say that there is some good in everyone and that everyone has something to offer to society but personally I believe that there are a few poeple out ther who have absolutly no redeaming qualities at all. If they were to be whiped off the face of the earth at this second no one would shed one tear.

Anyone who has that little regard for another person, any person isn't even really a human and is just an animal.

Oh you mean the same disregard you have just shown?

 

[cheerful_deviant]

Oh you mean the same disregard you have just shown?

I may not respect them and wouldn't miss them at all but I certainly wouldn't beat them to death in the street for fun.

 

[zeb1094]

I may not respect them and wouldn't miss them at all but I certainly wouldn't beat them to death in the street for fun.

But you would wipe them off the face of the earth and not miss or grieve for them?

 

[cheerful_deviant]

But you would wipe them off the face of the earth and not miss or grieve for them?

What I ment was, if they were to disappear no one would miss them because they have no redeeming value to society at all. I didn't mean I was going to wipe them out or that they necessarily should be wiped out.

 

[BikeWriter]

Dear god... wtf?

Homeless man slain by teens

i just dont understand. i will never, ever understand this kind of rage. what makes it ok to just kill anyone? what makes it seem like the 'thing to to'?

Those are mad animals and should be euthanized as a menace to humanity.

 

[cantdog]

People begin life totally oriented toward themselves. Maturation, in one sense, is the process of including more people than that in the moral universe.

My wife, a nurse in an emergency room, was called a "stupid cunt" by a pregnant woman who smoked a pack and a half a day, had a blood alcohol in the three hundreds, and was addicted to heroin, just last night. The mom-to-be had come into the ER with a complaint of "dental pain, 9 on a scale of one to ten." Only narcotics, it seemed, would ease this fearsome agony. The remark about stupid cunts was prompted by my wife's plea for the woman to consider the health of the baby. Even the baby couldn't open a crack in the hard shell of her utter egotism.

She was the decider.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

But you would wipe them off the face of the earth and not miss or grieve for them?

If Cd won't, I would. Happy to throw the switch, push the plunger, pull the trigger, open the trap door. Whatever floats your boat. If given my druthers, I'll light the fier at the bottom of the stake on them and once they're through screaming, I'll only regret they were gone bceasue I couldn't kill em again.

Calling them animals is an affront to animals. They don't usually kill for no reason. They usually kill for food or to defend themselves or their cubs. That's not universal of curse, some do kill apparently for no reason, but they are, the minority.


As to humans who kill for kicks or for n o reason at all...welll, if the job of executioner opens up, I promise it won't go unfilled.

 

[R. Richard]

I knew a guy, back a few years ago. He hated blacks. He thought that all blacks should be put to death. The guy had light skin, but kinky hair that indicated that he himself had some negro blood.

I suspect that the guys who beat the homeless people are themselves very low on the economic ladder and need someone to look down upon. It isn't homeless people they hate, it is themselves they hate. They see themselves, with just a few bad breaks, in the homeless people they beat and maybe kill.

I don't feel sorry for them. They are dangerous and I have had to deal with them when I myself roamed the steets. They prey on what they think are the weak. In my time, several of them have mistaken me for one of the weak. Once!

 

[Boxlicker101]

Dear god... wtf?

Homeless man slain by teens

i just dont understand. i will never, ever understand this kind of rage. what makes it ok to just kill anyone? what makes it seem like the 'thing to to'?

Some people are just rotten. Like Colly, I would have no problem personally tying the ropes around their necks and would consider it to be an honor and a privilege to do so. Unfortunately, they will probably be paroled after a few years and come out of prison even worse scum than they went in.

 

[Lucifer_Carroll]

There is evil.

Once some people can believe others to be sub-human, torture, recreational killing, and the like is easy. With that belief, one can flip the switch on another man's life without remorse, perhaps with a sense of pride as this.

There are lots of reasons for this. The erroneous belief that to be a man you have to be strong and senseless violence on the weak is the best way to feel strong. The constant refrain that the homeless are trash that we all want to go away and never come back. The various teachings that some people are better than others because of their position. There was a case down here not too many years back where some high school kids went out of their way to beat some migrant farm workers to death.

Overall, we like to believe the lines are so far away. That it would require such a tremendous twisting of the gears and wires to make someone capable of this. That only the truly fucked up could ever pull it off. Perhaps it's true, but not by much. This is our own souls in a mirror darkly.

 

[rgraham666]

When fish goes rotten, the head stinks first.

The people at the top don't give two shrill hoots in Hell about the poor. Some people elsewhere on the social ladder, those with few brains and fewer ethics pick up on this, and take that attitude as permission to act.

 

[pop_54]

When fish goes rotten, the head stinks first.

The people at the top don't give two shrill hoots in Hell about the poor. Some people elsewhere on the social ladder, those with few brains and fewer ethics pick up on this, and take that attitude as permission to act.

You are so right in many ways Graham the high up's don't give a toss... but it's not just the top knobs it runs through the whole of society today... Materialism, I'm alright Jack and fuck you attitudes... and as for the do-gooders....

The world has been ruined by Political correctness eroding the traditional values of right and good... and worse of all the Politically correct wankers who've banished fair and reasonable discipline in the home and schools... We are raising a bunch of bully boys and girls with materialism as their goal and no fucker allowed to slap them back into shape if they overstep the mark...

I will happily pull the switch, tighten the rope, whatever on these animals to rid the world of useless trash and act as a deterrent to others if nothing else.

 

[R. Richard]

I hear expressions of rage about senseless violence. What I do not really hear is a determination to cure the system that turns out the kind of subhuman animals who do the sensless violence.

Our young are run through a system that trains then for absolutely nothing and then spews then into the streets with their heads full of memorized lies. The fellahin then realize that they have no job skills, no economic knowledge and a permanent place as the underclass.

Those who run the system then wring their hands over what they have created.

 

[Colleen Thomas]

I hear expressions of rage about senseless violence. What I do not really hear is a determination to cure the system that turns out the kind of subhuman animals who do the sensless violence.

Our young are run through a system that trains then for absolutely nothing and then spews then into the streets with their heads full of memorized lies. The fellahin then realize that they have no job skills, no economic knowledge and a permanent place as the underclass.

Those who run the system then wring their hands over what they have created.

No system produced these guys RR. And shifting blame from the perpatrators to some monolitic failing system isn't fair either.

The School system may have let them down, but it's just as likely they didn't give it a chance.

Their famlial system may have let them down, but since the defense didn't claim they were abused, I suspect that isn't the case either.

Their community system may have let them down, but it sounds to me like they opted out of that too.

There are a lot of systems that produce an individual, and sometimes a failing in one of them, is compensated for by the strength in another. Smetimes not. But saying "the system" let them down, is shunting blame from the perpatrators of the act to people who had no part in it and are probably as apalled by it as most of us are.

These are the exact kind of scumbags who keep me a firm proponent of capital punishment. Thrill killers. Life support systems for a shit factory. Oxygen thieves. Pond Scum. Call em what ever you think fits.

But don't call them victims. The victim was an elderly man. He was already having a hard time, and at his age nobody should be homeless. And he begged for his life. And they lkilled him anyway. The fact they are still drawing breath is an affront to my sense of right and wrong.

 

[Boxlicker101]

No system produced these guys RR. And shifting blame from the perpatrators to some monolitic failing system isn't fair either.

The School system may have let them down, but it's just as likely they didn't give it a chance.

Their famlial system may have let them down, but since the defense didn't claim they were abused, I suspect that isn't the case either.

Their community system may have let them down, but it sounds to me like they opted out of that too.

There are a lot of systems that produce an individual, and sometimes a failing in one of them, is compensated for by the strength in another. Smetimes not. But saying "the system" let them down, is shunting blame from the perpatrators of the act to people who had no part in it and are probably as apalled by it as most of us are.

These are the exact kind of scumbags who keep me a firm proponent of capital punishment. Thrill killers. Life support systems for a shit factory. Oxygen thieves. Pond Scum. Call em what ever you think fits.

But don't call them victims. The victim was an elderly man. He was already having a hard time, and at his age nobody should be homeless. And he begged for his life. And they lkilled him anyway. The fact they are still drawing breath is an affront to my sense of right and wrong.

I usually agree with you 100%, Colly, and I do here too, except for calling the victim "an elderly man". At 53, I would call him middle-aged.