senate votes to remove confederate names from military bases

[Fermina_Daza]

No one should name their child Eustice now anyway.

 

[Rightguide]

There is only one way to heal the nation and rescue it from the vestiges of slavery and its racist past. We must defund, delegitimatize, and dismantle, the American Democrat Party and demand a national walk of shame for it's leadership.

 

[Lazaran]

you and your sneaky conflation of issues.

I'm not doubting that racism, particularly against Blacks is still plaguing America.
I have a TV too.

But as to systemic racism, you're so full of shit lol.
Half of your doctors are from Nigeria.
And these:

Came via exams and jobs:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/US_immigration_FE.png/700px-US_immigration_FE.png

Came via Green card lottery:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/US_immigration_DV.png/700px-US_immigration_DV.png

Opsie!
Canada and East Asia just went dark, and Africa & Iran & lit up like Christmass trees!

First off, I live in the United States dumb fuck, and second, include a legend when you post color coded maps........Dumb fuck

 

[Mal_Huevo]

you and your sneaky conflation of issues.

I'm not doubting that racism, particularly against Blacks is still plaguing America.
I have a TV too.

But as to systemic racism, you're so full of shit lol.
Half of your doctors are from Nigeria.
And these:

Came via exams and jobs:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/US_immigration_FE.png/700px-US_immigration_FE.png

Came via Green card lottery:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/US_immigration_DV.png/700px-US_immigration_DV.png

Opsie!
Canada and East Asia just went dark, and Africa & Iran & lit up like Christmass trees!

Oopsie indeed. Lol

You sure are one stupid son of a bitch.

 

[bellisarius]

I hope it doesn't pass, or is vetoed if it does.

 

[Em_1]

Source

That's much better, CounselorDaddy.

 

[Wrong Element]

Not party over country.

History over fee fees.

You guys want to go ISIS and erase your history?

Do it in your states/towns. But the rest of us are not so keen on ignoring and being willfully ignorant of our national history.

I don't want to "erase history," but why not honor some different people? I'm probably forgetting a few, but the only military installations I can think of named after generals on the non-treason side of the Civil War are Fort Meade and Fort Sill.

Beetle Bailey is more deserving of having something named for him than Robert E. Fucking Lee.

 

[BoyNextDoor]

I hope it passes, and the veto is overridden if Trump vetoes it.

 

[hogjack]

These are military bases. Fucking call them A, B, C, D, E, etc. Whatever.

No one gives a fuck. The purpose of military bases and other similar facilities isn't to honor names or bring glory to one soldier. Thousands of soldiers should be considered when naming facilities, not just the top brass.

Whatever the case the bases provide infrastructure for military training, operations, and storage of supplies, equipment, or weapons in support of military strategy and deployment.

Bases don't exist to honor names. Bases exist to conduct military business. These are functional facilities, not a goddamned vacation destination.

Oh, and fuck the US Senate. Useless fuckers on both sides of the aisles.

 

[Biggs_Darklighter]

I don't want to "erase history," but why not honor some different people? I'm probably forgetting a few, but the only military installations I can think of named after generals on the non-treason side of the Civil War are Fort Meade and Fort Sill.

Beetle Bailey is more deserving of having something named for him than Robert E. Fucking Lee.

A base named after Beetle Bailey would be awesome but just about everyone in that strip is a lazy ass so one wonders how much work would get done on said base.

 

[Sean]

I suggest renaming them after Cornwallis, Benedict Arnold, Erwin Rommel and Ho Chi Minh.

 

[bellisarius]

These are military bases. Fucking call them A, B, C, D, E, etc. Whatever.

No one gives a fuck. The purpose of military bases and other similar facilities isn't to honor names or bring glory to one soldier. Thousands of soldiers should be considered when naming facilities, not just the top brass.

Whatever the case the bases provide infrastructure for military training, operations, and storage of supplies, equipment, or weapons in support of military strategy and deployment.

Bases don't exist to honor names. Bases exist to conduct military business. These are functional facilities, not a goddamned vacation destination.

Oh, and fuck the US Senate. Useless fuckers on both sides of the aisles.

Nobody stationed at those posts sat around having deep intellectual discussions as to how the facilities got their names. There were discussions as to who and what units were stationed there in the past. In effect the history of those posts started AFTER the posts were named, not before.

What is happening is a wholesale attempt on the part of people who are generally ignorant to destroy the history of the nation for wholly insignificant reasons. Symbolism over substance. A nations history should be remembered, even the ugly parts, it is a reminder of how far we've come and where we mind end up again if not careful.

 

[SpeareChucker]

That's right.
If they can erase the history,
they can ignore the history and thusly
assuage their feelings of guilt over being
the wrong race, in the wrong nation at the wrong time.
The truth of the matter is that these are just unhappy people who
would bitch to St. Peter about the accommodations, the food and the temperature...



Get rid of every single reference to the Native Americans
and suddenly, you're not responsible for what happened to them.
It's like it never even happened, besides, *back pat* , you gave them casinos.

 

[Adre]

Yeah, right, Germany should definitely have a Fort Goebbels. Even an Eichmann Air Base. History’s important.

 

[jaF0]

Is it REALLY about honoring History?

All 10 bases are located in former Confederate states. Why did the Army name facilities after men who served a vanquished foe?

A movement in the late 19th and early 20th centuries known as "The Lost Cause" sought to defend the motivations of the Confederacy, obscure the role of slavery and drape these men in romance and devotion to homeland. After the movie "Gone With the Wind" in 1939, that romance was in full flower as World War II began.

https://www.military.com/underthera...y-bases-named-after-confederate-officers.html

 

[SpeareChucker]

Hey, JaFo...




Why aren't you going on about the bases named after the heroes
who killed off my people and maybe closing the bases that
held the soldiers that sallied forth to massacre us?



Are blacks more special than the natives???



Progressive hierarchy of victimhood.

 

[jaF0]

Interesting note in that list:

4. Fort Lee (Virginia)

Gen. Robert E. Lee was a Virginia native, West Point graduate and the most revered military mind in the CSA. Fort Lee is the Army's logistics hub and was opened in 1917.

Historians generally agree that Lee was less enthusiastic about the cause than many of his fellow Southerners, but he did take command of the CSA's army. After the defeat, he was notably opposed to the idea of Confederate monuments, writing in 1869 that it was better "not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife."

So, even the Big Bobby didn't cotton to the idea.

 

[Adre]

How about naming the bases after recipients of the Congressional Medal of Honor? You know, instead of guys who today would have been imprisoned for treason.

 

[jaF0]

Hey, JaFo...


Why aren't you going on about the bases named after the heroes who killed off my people and maybe closing the bases that held the soldiers that sallied forth to massacre us?



Are blacks more special than the natives???

You haven't been paying attention have you? I've often said that if the U.S. were to owe reparations to anyone, it would be those of the 500 Nations.

I'm reviewing the names of the bases affected to see if any might be worthy of names like Joseph of the Nez Perce.

 

[SpeareChucker]

You're trying to rewrite and erase history.
You saw a virtue wagon rolling by
and signed up as signalman...

 

[jaF0]

On that list of 10, I could support retaining the names of Rucker and Beauregard, but not the others.

 

[SpeareChucker]

Why spend all the money to rename all the bases to something
more politically correct, for the moment, when you could
just grant that money to improving current plights?

 

[SpeareChucker]

You know Grant was an Indian fighter...



right?

 

[bellisarius]

Hey, JaFo...




Why aren't you going on about the bases named after the heroes
who killed off my people and maybe closing the bases that
held the soldiers that sallied forth to massacre us?



Are blacks more special than the natives???



Progressive hierarchy of victimhood.

Slow down there. What about the people that YOUR people displaced? Huh? What about them?

 

[jaF0]

I also disagree with the leniency of punishment of Chivington.