Secret Service Director resigns

[zipman]

She should have been fired. Good riddance.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/politics/secret-service-director-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

 

[rosco rathbone]

She should have been fired. Good riddance.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/politics/secret-service-director-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

She was fired. "Resigning" is how they throw you a bone.

 

[NeverEndingMe]

She should have been fired. Good riddance.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/01/politics/secret-service-director-resigns/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

she's one of your kind

 

[zipman]

She was fired. "Resigning" is how they throw you a bone.

She didn't deserve to be thrown a bone.

She was a compete and utter failure.

 

[rosco rathbone]

She didn't deserve to be thrown a bone.

She was a compete and utter failure.

There are two ways to fuck up in DC. Straightforward incompetence and failure, which gets you a "have your resignation on my desk at 0900 hours Monday". and backstabbing/betrayal/whistleblowing/violation of the unspoken code of conduct; which gets you fired or worse.

 

[evesdream]

I don't know her history at all, but is it possible she's just the fall-guy de jour?
Something brought me to this old article a little while ago, suggesting that the secret service is running on something of a skeleton crew with a pretty crummy and dishonest internal culture to boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

 

[rosco rathbone]

t the fall-guy de jour?

That's the job description of a top Federal bureacrat.

 

[phrodeau]

I don't know her history at all, but is it possible she's just the fall-guy de jour?
Something brought me to this old article a little while ago, suggesting that the secret service is running on something of a skeleton crew with a pretty crummy and dishonest internal culture to boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

The agency became part of the DHS in 2003. That's when the troubles began.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/white-house/no-joke-here-s-how-to-fix-the-secret-service-20141001

 

[RobDownSouth]

I don't know her history at all, but is it possible she's just the fall-guy de jour?
Something brought me to this old article a little while ago, suggesting that the secret service is running on something of a skeleton crew with a pretty crummy and dishonest internal culture to boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

Seems like a case of the wrong person being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

There were increased demands on the Secret Service, largely because a significant specific demographic in Murica simply cannot abide a Negro president.

The sequester cut the funding for the Secret Service by an abitrary 5-7% (depending on who you ask).

So basically, they were asked to do more with less, and shock-of-shocks, morale plummeted.

Add an ineffective manager, and you have a recipe for dysfunction.

 

[Adre]

Wasn't one of the whackadoodles moaning and whining earlier because she wasn't gone?

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Plenty of times folks do their jobs and shit happens anyway.

I recall an incident from 20 years ago where a mom had a problem picking up violent men. The court ordered mom to keep them outta the house, and ordered the state to monitor mom's compliance daily. So on the day mom's kid was murdered the social worker visited the home, the kid confirmed mom was compliant, and that night mom's boyfriend killed the kid.

The state fired the worker, the workers temp supervisor, the supervisor who was out on maternity leave, the assistant district administrator, and the district administrator. The governor didn't give a shit that all was kosher.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Wasn't one of the whackadoodles moaning and whining earlier because she wasn't gone?

AJ was, just this morning. So was his boy miles.

 

[JohnnySavage]

The Secret Service does seem like the Keystone Cops recently. The nutty couple that crashed the party... the fake sign language guy that stood next to the Prez (That was actually kinda funny), the shot up white house that took a few days to realize.

While you need to cut the head off the snake - that's a risk that comes with sitting in the big chair, you also need to fire some of these knob-heads with the buzz cuts and bad suits.

 

[Adre]

AJ was, just this morning. So was his boy miles.

Well, they still have Bhengazi, Lerner, ISIS and ACA to keep them busy. Could they breathe new life into Fast and Furious? Or maybe they'll offer objective reviews of the Rolling Stone piece on the Kochs.

 

[zipman]

Seems like a case of the wrong person being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

There were increased demands on the Secret Service, largely because a significant specific demographic in Murica simply cannot abide a Negro president.

The sequester cut the funding for the Secret Service by an abitrary 5-7% (depending on who you ask).

So basically, they were asked to do more with less, and shock-of-shocks, morale plummeted.

Add an ineffective manager, and you have a recipe for dysfunction.

That wasn't dysfunction, it was a failure of the most basic functions of the department. If resources are cut you allocate them based on priority - and keeping the president safe and the white house secure are the two most basic functions that the director has.

She was hired to turn around the agency and actually made it far worse than when she got there. She was clearly not the right person for the job.

 

[RobDownSouth]

That wasn't dysfunction, it was a failure of the most basic functions of the department. If resources are cut you allocate them based on priority - and keeping the president safe and the white house secure are the two most basic functions that the director has.

Have you ever managed a budget?

She was hired to turn around the agency and actually made it far worse than when she got there. She was clearly not the right person for the job.

No argument there.

 

[Wrong Element]

I don't know her history at all, but is it possible she's just the fall-guy de jour?
Something brought me to this old article a little while ago, suggesting that the secret service is running on something of a skeleton crew with a pretty crummy and dishonest internal culture to boot.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...reats-a-day-stretching-US-Secret-Service.html

She was fairly new on the job (only since the spring of 2013), so several of the "incidents" talked about these last few days predate her coming on board.

There's always a risk of public attention fading once a scalp has been procured, and it would be a big mistake if that happened again. There are obviously issues that go beyond the director. But she had to go nonetheless.

 

[zipman]

Have you ever managed a budget?


No argument there.

Yes, I have managed many budgets - the highest of them was just under 20 million.

 

[Que]

She was fired. "Resigning" is how they throw you a bone.

O Lord, don't start that argument. I spent three days arguing that with the usual suspects.

Other than Nixon's Midnight Massacre, nearly all firings at that level are handled as "resignations."

Nixon only did it because they refused to step down.

 

[eyer]

Virtually every once-independent federal agency which was thrown-in together under the collective Department of Homeland Security umbrella in the panic of 9/11 has seen its once-exceptional status blend-in blandly to the one, gigantic bureaucratic pot such a stupid act was guaranteed to produce...

...and, naturally, that same politically-correct, lead by risk-adverse committee, cover-thy-butt-first mentality has dripped all the way down to and throughout the Armed Forces; recent reports of sailors' distrustful views of their leadership, eg, are fully alarming in what that may likely portend. The same anti-leadership attitudes and apathy, by the way, have also created a huge divide between the boots-on-the-ground and the butts-behind-the-desk in the Border Patrol, another agency bureaucratically-forced under the mammothly unexceptional DHS umbrella.

When you take a previously independent agency that led by exceptional performance and collectively toss it into a humongous pot of bureaucracy...

...it's simply a factual matter of time before its exceptionalism seeps away amid the overwhelming stew of blandness.

The simple, logical solution, of course, is to make the agency as independent as republicanly possible again...

...that is, if exceptionalism is once more to be the goal.

Sadly...

...it is quite obviously not.

 

[Que]

^^and like every institution in America subject to scrutiny over hiring, promotion and retention policies, the cream does not rise to the top.

Making the workforce "look like America" becomes the over-arching mission statement as if that take priority over whatever the organization is designed to do.

After the scandal with hookers and the secret service was uncovered that was the perfect excuse to knock down the "good old boys" a peg, whether they personally knew about or participated in such chicanery. A woman was made the head of the Secret Service to "change the culture" whether she was a good administrator or not. Her qualification was not having a penis and being already promoted a level or two previously. Was she qualified for any of her previous promotions over all other male candidates? Statistically doubtful. It isn't possible to change the "diversity" of an existing group without discriminating against and holding back qualified, competent people of the wrong color or gender in the interest of "fairness." Since, no doubt, some of her reports had seniority over her for each of her advancements, whether from resentment or whether from fear of looking resentful, who is going to give her honest feedback?

These seemingly worthy goals have unintended consequences. Now men in the organization will think a woman can't lead, and women in the organization will think she was railroaded out.

You do not want 51% or your firemen, soldiers and policemen to be women. Pretending that is possible is a fools errand.

As far as Secret Service budgets, and threats and other excuses: Covering multiple globe-trotting his and hers separate vacations is much more draining on their resources than holing up in Crawford Texas or Camp David or Little Rock.

I assume Crawford Texas has a hooker or two, but I also bet that the Secret Service guys are pretty well liked by the local cop groupies that don't charge and don't complain when they aren't not paid.

 

[evesdream]

Hi Query.
I don't know how people deal with you on a regular basis in this forum, because you say really stupid shit and as you know it takes three times more energy to explain why you're an idiot, than it does for you to spew drivel. Who has time for that?
This bit for example.:

These seemingly worthy goals have unintended consequences. Now men in the organization will think a woman can't lead...

So much stupid in just two sentences. It's kind of amazing, but tiring. Does it not fall to reason, that anyone who comes to this truly simple-minded conclusion based on the performance of one woman is either a moron, or already had this engrained sexist attitude to begin with?

I wonder what goes on in that tin-cup head of yours. For example, (and I'm not saying this is what happened in this situation), when insubordination in the workplace is the result of an irrational sexist attitude, where does the problem lie? Does it lie with the subordinate who can't get a grip of reality, or with the superior for being a woman?

Ugh, there's just so much drivel. I could go on, but frankly I'd rather be watching the weather channel than analyzing your posts.

 

[evesdream]

That's the job description of a top Federal bureacrat.

So cynical!

Yes, I have managed many budgets - the highest of them was just under 20 million.

Looks like a plum position just opened up for you...

 

[Adre]

Hi Query.
I don't know how people deal with you on a regular basis in this forum, because you say really stupid shit and as you know it takes three times more energy to explain why you're an idiot, than it does for you to spew drivel. Who has time for that?
This bit for example.:

So much stupid in just two sentences.

Ugh, there's just so much drivel. I could go on, but frankly I'd rather be watching the weather channel than analyzing your posts.

I alternate between laughing at him and not paying attention, which seems to work quite well.

 

[Lancecastor]

I watched whatshername being grilled a couple of days ago and was embarrassed for her.

The head of the Secret Service shouldn't ever answer a question about what her people did/didn't do with "I don't know.'

She should have been fired right after that Q&A....and it appears now that she was.

Pathetic.