Second Appeals Schools Obama On The Constitution

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Things aint lookin good for The Messiah.

 

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[Sean]

Shit, maybe he won't get re-elected!

 

[Adre]

A combined whiff of desperation and defeat in the air as the Benghazi story fades away.

 

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[Adre]

Benghazi has yet to begin. We will find out who gave the order to "stand down."

Watch as BO defuses each situation that the Grand Old Farts are trying to blow out of proportion. They are desperate and frankly, pathetic.

 

[Adre]

Carville gives it thirty days, and he knows more than you do.

 

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[JAMESBJOHNSON]

The road down which his second coming stumbles isn't strewn with palm fronds as before, but political caltrops and landmines, having become one himself, he no longer requires the services of an ass.

Don't need palms when you step on your dick the whole way.

 

[phrodeau]

Benghazi has yet to begin. We will find out who gave the order to "stand down."

I'm pretty sure that it was somebody who thought it was a good idea not to start another fucking war.

 

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[KRCummings]

Watch as BO defuses each situation that the Grand Old Farts are trying to blow out of proportion. They are desperate and frankly, pathetic.

Hard to say about Benghazi since there's so much shit nobody seems to really know what happened but the IRS and AP scandals I don't think are out of proportion. Legitimate causes for concern. Maybe not about Obama himself but the government in general.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Benghazi has yet to begin. We will find out who gave the order to "stand down."

 

[Colonel Hogan]

Let's watch too, as he deflates the AP and the IRS issue. If he was the man Nixon was, he's resign.

Nixon didn't resign because he was a man. He resigned because he was about to be impeached and, if impeached, almost certainly convicted in the Senate. He resigned because he was as guilty as fuck and was about to be held accountable.

Hard to say about Benghazi since there's so much shit nobody seems to really know what happened but the IRS and AP scandals I don't think are out of proportion. Legitimate causes for concern. Maybe not about Obama himself but the government in general.

The AP bullshit is so far out of proportion it doesn't deserve the label of scandal.

A phone record is a database record within the central office phone switch that says that SOMEONE (?) from a specific PHONE NUMBER called SOMEONE ELSE (?) at another SPECIFIC PHONE NUMBER on a specific DATE and TIME and for a specific DURATION. It also would include the name of the carrier(s) (i.e. phone company) providing service to the originating and destination subscribers. It might also include information about what inter-office trunk lines were utilized as well. I'm not certain about that. But since there are usually several different routes a phone call can take through the local phone network, that information would be useful to telephony engineers in planning future expansion of transmission facilities.

But that's all a phone record is. To the extent that the DOJ may have violated its own rules about how it collects telecommunications evidence, then the issue has a legitimacy about that policy violation.

But it is in no way a Constitutional issue related to either First or Fourth Amendment protections. I'm already thoroughly sick of listening to all the whining about it.

The backstory: Last year, the AP ran an article about an al-Qaeda underwear bomb plot that relied on sensitive information given to the news service by an undisclosed source. The Department of Justice considers leaking classified information to be a national security risk. When someone leaks to the press, the department's policy is to pursue the leak, not the journalists who extracted it.

Which is why the Justice Department went after the AP's phone records. A list of numbers dialed by editors and journalists is in theory a good place to start looking. Under current wiretap law, dialed numbers are not afforded the same protection as calls, and can be obtained without a warrant.

Here's the problem. When the Supreme Court set the legal precedent back in 1979, phone records contained much less information. Nowadays, a phone record's metadata includes not just the phone number, but the time the call took place, the call origin, the call duration, and the carrier.

The Electronic Frontier Foundation, a non-profit dedicated to the protection of digital rights, said in a statement released yesterday that it "no longer makes sense to treat calling records and other metadata related to our communications as if they aren't fully protected by the Constitution."

http://www.popsci.com/technology/ar...tion-can-department-justice-get-phone-records

In my not-so-humble-opinion, the Electronic Frontier Foundation is chock-full-o-shit.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Hard to say about Benghazi since there's so much shit nobody seems to really know what happened but the IRS and AP scandals I don't think are out of proportion. Legitimate causes for concern. Maybe not about Obama himself but the government in general.

There is no AP scandal.

The government acted within the law.

There was a proposed Federal Shield law to prevent the government from doing what they did, but it was filibustered in the previous Congress by the Rapepublicans.

 

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[mercury14]

There is no AP scandal.

The government acted within the law.

There was a proposed Federal Shield law to prevent the government from doing what they did, but it was filibustered in the previous Congress by the Rapepublicans.

Vette chooses not to acknowledge this fact.

 

[mercury14]

Let's watch too, as he deflates the AP and the IRS issue. If he was the man Nixon was, he's resign.

And you know damn well that if some bureaucratic scandal occurred during a Republican administration you'd see no reason for a resignation.

 

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

Benghazi is important for the same reason that a kid drowning in your pool is important. Hillary didn't shoot the ambassador, what she did was leave his ass uncovered. Appeasing ragheads had a higher priority. The event also exposes the military and CYA as inept bunglers. Bottomline: Obama got caught in the arms of a live boy or dead girl.

AP? Obama got caught fucking his wife's sister.

Recess appointments: Obama is sneaky but not clever.

 

[4est_4est_Gump]

Remember the drilling moratorium?


He'll just turn around and reappoint them over the next weekend.

Congress is about to hit its vacation season, so he'll be soon stuffing every single vacancy he can find with like-minded minions.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Benghazi is important for the same reason.... Hillary....

Yup!!

 

[mercury14]

Benghazi is important for the same reason that a kid drowning in your pool is important. Hillary didn't shoot the ambassador, what she did was leave his ass uncovered. Appeasing ragheads had a higher priority. The event also exposes the military and CYA as inept bunglers. Bottomline: Obama got caught in the arms of a live boy or dead girl.

AP? Obama got caught fucking his wife's sister.

Recess appointments: Obama is sneaky but not clever.

Benghazi - did you read the un-edited emails that came out which explain the "altered talking points"? OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T!

AP - Do you realize nothing was done illegally and the DOJ was operating under powers granted to it by Congress, specifically a Bush-era all-Republican Congress? OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T!

Recess appointments - Do you realize Obama was doing recess appointments the same exact way as Bush I, Bush II, Clinton, and Reagan, Carter, and probably more presidents than that? And that the issue is solely one of interpretation of a vague law, one that Republicans have always agreed that Obama was handling appropriately? OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T!

 

[KRCummings]

There is no AP scandal.

The government acted within the law.

There was a proposed Federal Shield law to prevent the government from doing what they did, but it was filibustered in the previous Congress by the Rapepublicans.

Acting within the law doesn't automatically make something right. The fact that there was a serious attempt to stop such behavior in the past implies it's wrong.
Maybe it's not a "scandal" and more of an "issue" or whatever. Makes no difference. Stay the fuck out of the press.

 

[RobDownSouth]

Acting within the law doesn't automatically make something right. The fact that there was a serious attempt to stop such behavior in the past implies it's wrong.
Maybe it's not a "scandal" and more of an "issue" or whatever. Makes no difference. Stay the fuck out of the press.

We can and do debate the way things ought to be on a daily basis.

I find it particularly disingenuous when the other side criticizes the administration for conduct they had a chance to legally prohibit last year and chose not to do so.

And for the record, I think it is wrong for the government to do this sort of snooping and I support the Federal Shield legislation.