SCOTUS Hands Trump's Taxes to Congress

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Supreme Court OKs handover of Trump tax returns to Congress​

https://apnews.com/article/us-supre...rts-congress-8ea516dace48875ad7c5dd472dd16dcf

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court on Tuesday cleared the way for the imminent handover of former President Donald Trump’s tax returns to a congressional committee after a three-year legal fight.

The court, with no noted dissents, rejected Trump’s plea for an order that would have prevented the Treasury Department from giving six years of tax returns for Trump and some of his businesses to the Democratic-controlled House Ways and Means Committee.

Alone among recent presidents, Trump refused to release his tax returns either during his successful 2016 campaign or his four years in the White House, citing what he said was an ongoing audit by the IRS. Last week, Trump announced he would run again in 2024.

It was the former president’s second loss at the Supreme Court in as many months, and third this year. In October, the court refused to step into the legal fight surrounding the FBI search of Trump’s Florida estate that turned up classified documents.

In January, the court refused to stop the National Archives from turning over documents to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection at the Capitol. Justice Clarence Thomas was the only vote in Trump’s favor.

In the dispute over his tax returns, the Treasury Department had refused to provide the records during Trump’s presidency. But the Biden administration said federal law is clear that the committee has the right to examine any taxpayer’s return, including the president’s.

 

[Kindfarmer]

oh SNAP! I can’t believe what an injustice system we have! Garland should have arrested him on day two of his appointment on the 10th count s of obstruction that Mueller spelled out!

 

[Dribble]

Too bad they don't magically disappear in a fire...

 

[Kindfarmer]

Too bad they don't magically disappear in a fire...

so you’re no, he’s guilty that you don’t give a fuck ……. anybody wonder why we can’t have anything nice?

 

[Kindfarmer]

so you’ know

so you’re no, he’s guilty that you don’t give a fuck ……. anybody wonder why we can’t have anything nice?

he’s guilty that you don’t give a fuck ……. anybody wonder why we can’t have anything nice?

 

[HisArpy]

This was inevitable.

Just as inevitable as the fact that the tax info will be leaked to the press.

 

[ll74]

This was inevitable.

Just as inevitable as the fact that the tax info will be leaked to the press.

Just like Biden's taxes.....which we're leaked to the press.

Oh wait.....they were published to the public....

 

[Dribble]

so you’re no, he’s guilty that you don’t give a fuck ……. anybody wonder why we can’t have anything nice?

Because idiots vote for corruption. He is a symptom of a broken system. You can't fix a broken system using that broken system. If politicians cared...6 years would not have passed since this bullshit started. You voted for that. Not me. I voted for accountability...but unfortunately I am not in the majority of either Party

 

[Kindfarmer]

Because idiots vote for corruption. He is a symptom of a broken system. You can't fix a broken system using that broken system. If politicians cared...6 years would not have passed since this bullshit started. You voted for that. Not me. I voted for accountability...but unfortunately I am not in the majority of either Party

your assumption that I am some hard-core democrat because I’m anti-Trump is ridiculous. To you think you know who I voted for is beyond stupid

 

[ll74]

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election identified 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump. Mueller said in his report that he could not conclusively determine that Trump had committed a crime or that he hadn’t.

You both agree on ten

 

[ll74]

all 10 are BS

If they were BS, then they wouldn't have been documented as possible in the report.

 

[iso36]

I think Trump’s right. This is a witch hunt a la Ken Starr.

Most Presidents enter the White House well-employed… yet all leave wealthy.

 

[Kindfarmer]

Special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of Russian interference in the 2016 election identified 10 instances of possible obstruction of justice by President Donald Trump. Mueller said in his report that he could not conclusively determine that Trump had committed a crime or that he hadn’t.

no. That’s not what It said.

 

[Dribble]

your assumption that I am some hard-core democrat because I’m anti-Trump is ridiculous. To you think you know who I voted for is beyond stupid

I know you think you know more than you do. I also know you are the one making assumptions.

 

[Chobham]

Sooooo, what are they going to do with this info? Whatever it is they have damn little time to do it.

Quite frankly this is as dangerous to them as it is Trump. If for some reason those returns become public they do so in violation of federal law and if you don't think the republicans are going to be all over that come Jan., you're living in a dream world.

Trump's returns, and anyone in that same position in life, are going to be complicated. And at that level there is always negotiations that take place between the IRS and the tax filer. Hell, I've been through that more than once in my life and I was no where near Trumps level of complication.

What I expect is a series of allegations made with no specific supporting evidence. In other words just another political hit job. Congress has no power to bring charges, only the ability to make referrals to the appropriate administrative agency and that agency is the IRS. From there the IRS can make referrals to the DOJ and by then a new congress will be in place. Considering that ALL of Trumps returns over the past several years are already in the process of audit, no final determination can be made.

Just hypothesizing here what the IRS can do is to accept all returns as filed, meaning to cease the audit/negotiation phase and then take any referrals from congress and say, "Yup, he's committed tax fraud" and then refer to DOJ. The problem with that tactic is that it will be seen as the superficial political operation that it would be.

So congress got a win on this one but in more of a real sense of the word than not, they've merely got an alligator by the tail.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Just hypothesizing

You really only needed to type those two words. We can imagine your bullshit to add in, after all it's not like you add in new substance to your view.

SCOTUS confirmed the committee had the legal right to review them, for the reasons laid out in the filing.

 

[Chobham]

You really only needed to type those two words. We can imagine your bullshit to add in, after all it's not like you add in new substance to your view.

SCOTUS confirmed the committee had the legal right to review them, for the reasons laid out in the filing.

Fine, and that has what to do with what I wrote?

 

[KeithD]

As hard as Trump has fought to keep his taxes secret, it's obvious it's earth-shattering to him for anyone--especially Democrats--to know the truth about his finances. Trump being earth-shattered has a very nice ring to it. Accountability for Trump may turn out just to be the death by a thousand cuts he's now suffering.

Fine. He's just the sort to agonize over truth being rubbed in his failure's nose.

 

[Fuzzy1975]

Fine, and that has what to do with what I wrote?

Exactly! Now you're catching on...*chuckles*

 

[Chobham]

That's no answer at all. Is the English language a struggle for you? Or perhaps you're just not capable/bothering to think this through.

NONE of the individuals on the subpoenaing committee are 'tax experts.' That means that they are going to have to turn that material over to some entities (favorable to their goals) for review. Given the complication of the returns they, in turn, are going to involve a host of drones to aid in the review and given the truncated time allowed probably a LOT of drones. Each and everyone of those made privy to the data are a source of leaks to the press, and undoubtedly one or more of them will. And when that happens federal law is violated and the fallout from that violation begins.

Now, if Trump was legitimately engaged in tax fraud and the evidence is such that the new congress persue's the matter, fine, prosecute the bastard.

 

[ll74]

That's no answer at all. Is the English language a struggle for you? Or perhaps you're just not capable/bothering to think this through.

NONE of the individuals on the subpoenaing committee are 'tax experts.' That means that they are going to have to turn that material over to some entities (favorable to their goals) for review. Given the complication of the returns they, in turn, are going to involve a host of drones to aid in the review and given the truncated time allowed probably a LOT of drones. Each and everyone of those made privy to the data are a source of leaks to the press, and undoubtedly one or more of them will. And when that happens federal law is violated and the fallout from that violation begins.

Now, if Trump was legitimately engaged in tax fraud and the evidence is such that the new congress persue's the matter, fine, prosecute the bastard.

They've demonstrated in court that they have legislative business with his taxes and the courts agreed.

Maybe 45 should have had you try the case ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

 

[Chobham]

They've demonstrated in court that they have legislative business with his taxes and the courts agreed.

Maybe 45 should have had you try the case ¯⁠\⁠(⁠°⁠_⁠o⁠)⁠/⁠¯

Are you a moron? I have NOT questioned the courts decision. Merely pointed out that there are consequences that are conferred on the petitioners.

 

[ll74]

Are you a moron? I have NOT questioned the courts decision. Merely pointed out that there are consequences that are conferred on the petitioners.

Got it

 

[Kindfarmer]

I know you think you know more than you do. I also know you are the one making assumptions.

I am absolutely sure one thing. You don’t know shit. And if you’re going to make a ridiculous claim about assumptions, at least put up some weak ass example of your claim.

 

[Kindfarmer]

I know one thing, you don’t know shit.

This was inevitable.

Just as inevitable as the fact that the tax info will be leaked to the press.

Don’t tell me Justice Alito has it!