Schadenfreude in spades!

[trysail]

I freely admit it; I despise John Edwards and virtually everything about him. I always believed he was a complete phony. Now he stands revealed as the hypocritical, promiscuous, whore-liar that I marked him for.
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Edwards Admits to Affair, Denies Paternity, ABC Says
By Alison Fitzgerald

Aug. 8 (Bloomberg) -- Former Senator John Edwards admitted he had an affair with a filmmaker hired by his political action committee and lied about it during his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination, ABC News reported.

Edwards said in an interview with the network that he had an extramarital affair with 42-year-old Rielle Hunter and that his wife, Elizabeth, became aware of it in 2006, ABC said on its Web site.

He denied he is the father of Hunter's daughter, Frances Quinn Hunter, who was born in February, ABC said on its Web site. The interview is scheduled to be broadcast tonight.

A spokesman for Edwards didn't immediately respond to a request for comment.

The tabloid National Enquirer first reported the affair last October, and Edwards and his campaign staff denied the story at the time.

Edwards, 55, told ABC News that his relationship with Hunter began in 2006 after he met her in a bar in New York. He later hired her to produce films for his campaign, ABC reported.

Edwards, who served in the Senate from North Carolina from 1999 to 2005, was Massachusetts Senator John Kerry's running mate in the 2004 presidential election. He announced in December 2006 that he would again seek the top spot on the ticket for the 2008 election.

Elizabeth Edwards

In March 2007, Elizabeth Edwards, who had been diagnosed with breast cancer in 2004, announced she had a recurrence. The couple made a joint announcement that he would continue his bid for the nomination.

He withdrew Jan. 30 after failing to win any of the early primary and caucus contests.

Senators Barack Obama of Illinois and New York Senator Hillary Clinton courted Edwards to win his endorsement for their presidential bids. Edwards endorsed Obama, who went on to become the party's presumptive nominee.

The revelations will diminish Edwards' role in Democratic politics, said Tad Devine, a Democratic campaign consultant.

``It's hard to envision'' that Edwards will have any public role at the Democratic National Convention, which begins at the end of the month in Denver, Devine said.

Edwards' former communications director Chris Kofinis said he is ``shell-shocked, devastated, heartbroken.''

``I took him for his word as every staffer would. Unfortunately, we know now that was not the case,'' Kofinis said. ``At the end of the day, it's about him and his family and what has to be a difficult moment in their lives.''

 

[Carnevil9]

It never hurt Clinton.

 

[Tricialen]

I feel sorry for his wife...who is dying ....and his children....Shame on him!

 

[trysail]

I feel sorry for his wife...who is dying ....and his children....Shame on him!

I absolutely agree with you; I feel very sorry for her. It's a shame she's married to such a total jerk.

 

[TE999]

That old refrain "The kid's not mine" don't work no more.

One acronym comes to mind: DNA.

A politician lying? I'm shocked and appalled.

I feel terrible for his wife and children. The arrogant ass.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

The wife has known about this since 2006? Now that's sad. She let herself become a sympathy card for his candidacy knowing that he was a cheat and a scoundral. Terrible, just terrible.

 

[jomar]

I believe The National Enquirer first broke the story.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Wow, an affair! OH MY GAWD!

That's just gotta be the sickest man on earth. Yep.

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Wow, an affair! OH MY GAWD!

That's just gotta be the sickest man on earth. Yep.

No, not the affair, the lying. Alla same thing Bill Clinton. I doubt that 3/4 of the country gave a rat's ass whether he got a blowjob from Monica or not. Hell, JFK had prostitutes in the White House almost daily. It's the lying about it, especially from someone who plays such a goody-two-shoes.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Show me a man who wouldn't lie about having an affair as long as he could. I'll show you a man who would never BE a politician in the first place.

I think though, that he was an unmitigated asshole to do it during the elections, and at the same time, I understand it. It takes a whole lot of Alpha to be in national politics.

One thing that truly pisses me off though. When someone asked him about how he would handle the issue of gay marriage, he said that while he knew it was wrong to let his religious and moral beliefs make the decision, he would still be against anything other than domestic partnerships. But his moral and religious beliefs went out the window when he wanted some off-stage nookie. Like, because it was hetero nookie, that's not so much immoral?

And of course, because it gives anti-global-warming knee-jerkers a chance to call him a liar. Because if he lies about an affair, Global warming is a myth. OF COURSE!

 

[voluptuary_manque]

Show me a man who wouldn't lie about having an affair as long as he could. I'll show you a man who would never BE a politician in the first place.

I think though, that he was an unmitigated asshole to do it during the elections, and at the same time, I understand it. It takes a whole lot of Alpha to be in national politics.

One thing that truly pisses me off though. When someone asked him about how he would handle the issue of gay marriage, he said that while he knew it was wrong to let his religious and moral beliefs make the decision, he would still be against anything other than domestic partnerships. But his moral and religious beliefs went out the window when he wanted some off-stage nookie. Like, because it was hetero nookie, that's not so much immoral?

And of course, because it gives anti-global-warming knee-jerkers a chance to call him a liar. because of course, if he lies about an affair, Global warming is a myth.

That last is stretching things a bit but being a clean air/water freak I'm all for people yelling "Global Warming". Whether it exists or not is besides the point. Whatever get's us off fossil fuel and into clean energy will be good for my sinuses and the fish I so dearly love pursuing.

Anyway, you nailed Edwards right in the Achilles' heel. Hypocrisy.

 

[Stella_Omega]

That last is stretching things a bit...

That's exactly what Trysail has just done. He just KNOWS that Edwards is a hypocrite- on account of Global warming, which Trysail doesn't believe in.

A man who lies about an affair will lie about ANYTHING!

In fact, until evidence shows that Bush has been screwing around, millions of Americans will continue to defend him on the WMD issue

 

[voluptuary_manque]

That's exactly what Trysail has just done. He just KNOWS that Edwards is a hypocrite- on account of Global warming, which Trysail doesn't believe in.

A man who lies about an affair will lie about ANYTHING!

In fact, until evidence shows that Bush has been screwing around, millions of Americans will continue to defend him on the WMD issue

Well, I haven't ever had an affair (probably more to lack of opportunity than anything else) but I can lie with such a straight face I should be ashamed of myself. But it's not my fault, yanno, I'm sociopathic. It's all something elses fault. http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/1volupturary_manque/innocent.gif

 

[trysail]

Show me a man who wouldn't lie about having an affair as long as he could.

Stella,
What we've got here is someone with serious character flaws. I don't give a goddamn whether the fellow has affairs— that's a matter for him and his wife— as long as Elizabeth gave him her permission (which, obviously, was not the case).

BUT, the man has to be either a complete moron or a congenital liar to deny it— all the while knowing he's under the national microscope.

And of course, because it gives anti-global-warming knee-jerkers a chance to call him a liar. Because if he lies about an affair, Global warming is a myth. OF COURSE!

Huh? Eh? Wha?

That'll cost you fifteen yards for a flagrant NON-SEQUITUR and a second fifteen yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.

 

[Stella_Omega]

Stella,
What we've got here is someone with serious character flaws. I don't give a goddamn whether the fellow has affairs— that's a matter for him and his wife— as long as Elizabeth gave him her permission (which, obviously, was not the case).

BUT, the man has to be either a complete moron or a congenital liar to deny it— all the while knowing he's under the national microscope.

Serious character flaws aside from lying about his affair? Well, you've always despised him, so you must be right about that. And yeah, a complete moron to give his detractors more ammo against him.

Huh? Eh? Wha?

That'll cost you fifteen yards for a flagrant NON-SEQUITUR and a second fifteen yards for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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You are knee-jerk about global warming, dude. And we all know that Edwards made a big noise and you hate him for it. And I think your schadenfreude in regards to this far lesser issue is kinda non-sequiteur in itself.

Of course, if Bush gets caught with his pants down, I'd glory in my own schadenfreude, I totally grant you that. And for the exact same reason.

 

[Edward Teach]

Show me a man who wouldn't lie about having an affair as long as he could. I'll show you a man who would never BE a politician in the first place.

I think though, that he was an unmitigated asshole to do it during the elections, and at the same time, I understand it. It takes a whole lot of Alpha to be in national politics.

One thing that truly pisses me off though. When someone asked him about how he would handle the issue of gay marriage, he said that while he knew it was wrong to let his religious and moral beliefs make the decision, he would still be against anything other than domestic partnerships. But his moral and religious beliefs went out the window when he wanted some off-stage nookie. Like, because it was hetero nookie, that's not so much immoral?

And of course, because it gives anti-global-warming knee-jerkers a chance to call him a liar. Because if he lies about an affair, Global warming is a myth. OF COURSE!

What Stella said

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

Wow, an affair! OH MY GAWD!

That's just gotta be the sickest man on earth. Yep.

That's my view too. I find "complete phoney," demagogue and destructive looter to be quite sufficient reasons to despise him without paying any attention to who he does or doesn't fuck.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

What he does with his dick and his private life is his own fucking business, and he doesn't have to justify his behavior to you. Who the hell are you? Jesus fucking Christ? And what's he supposed to do with the press full of hypocrites? Of course he's going to deny it because it's none of their damn business either.

I can't believe the 6th grade morality of the American public who still expect their leaders to behave according to some child's conception of idealized "grown-up" behavior. People are human beings. Deal with it.

What he does with his dick doesn't get Americans killed and doesn't cost me any money so what the hell do I care? It's his business and no one else's

 

[Pure]

tryStella,
What we've got here is someone with serious character flaws. I don't give a goddamn whether the fellow has affairs— that's a matter for him and his wife— as long as Elizabeth gave him her permission (which, obviously, was not the case).

BUT, the man has to be either a complete moron or a congenital liar to deny it— all the while knowing he's under the national microscope.

rox//That's my view too. I find "complete phoney," demagogue and destructive looter to be quite sufficient reasons to despise him without paying any attention to who he does or doesn't fuck.
Yesterday 08:49 PM //

as you say rox, you critics are those with pre existing axes to grind.

to try: wow, lying about an affair. as opposed to announcing it on the evening news, "i've started fucking xx".

both of you support scads of character flawed, phoney and demagogic politicians without batting an eye, so long as they support lower taxes on business.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

What he does with his dick and his private life is his own fucking business, and he doesn't have to justify his behavior to you? Who the hell are you? Jesus fucking Christ? And what's he supposed to do with the press full of hypocrites? Of course he's going to deny it because it's none of their damn business either.

I can't believe the 6th grade morality of the American public who still expect their leaders to behave according to some child's conception of idealized "grown-up" behavior. People are human beings. Deal with it.

What he does with his dick doesn't get Americans killed and doesn't cost me any money so what the hell do I care? It's his business and no one else's

Well, when you spend millions parading pretentious, phony sanctimony people will get pissed when it's exposed to be largely a sham. Of course it's their own fault for believing it in the first place, and for allowing themselves to be manipulated on those particular moralistic grounds, but your statement still seems to be lacking context.

 

[Roxanne Appleby]

tryStella,
What we've got here is someone with serious character flaws. I don't give a goddamn whether the fellow has affairs— that's a matter for him and his wife— as long as Elizabeth gave him her permission (which, obviously, was not the case).

BUT, the man has to be either a complete moron or a congenital liar to deny it— all the while knowing he's under the national microscope.

rox//That's my view too. I find "complete phoney," demagogue and destructive looter to be quite sufficient reasons to despise him without paying any attention to who he does or doesn't fuck.
Yesterday 08:49 PM //

as you say rox, you critics are those with pre existing axes to grind.

to try: wow, lying about an affair. as opposed to announcing it on the evening news, "i've started fucking xx".

both of you support scads of character flawed, phoney and demagogic politicians without batting an eye, so long as they support lower taxes on business.

Oh fuck you, Pure. As if you don't have any "pre-existing axes to grind." I've never supported any f'ing politicians (or non-f'ing ones either) - they are all psychological misfits, by definition. I support good public policy, and if one of those vainglorious buffoons supports it too I'm glad, but I never put my trust in any of them.

Aside from that, your statement is highly uncivil: You're failing to accord the presumption of goodwill to your adversaries, which in addition to being arrogant and pretentious is wrong. (I on the other hand do not fail to do that, even when I rudely cuss-out one of my adversaries for rank incivility.)

 

[WRJames]

Well, what about our two current presidential candidates?

Any wagers on which one may have strayed? When it will be made an issue (probably VERY close to the election)? Or are they both above reproach?

 

[Carnevil9]

What he does with his dick and his private life is his own fucking business, and he doesn't have to justify his behavior to you? Who the hell are you? Jesus fucking Christ? And what's he supposed to do with the press full of hypocrites? Of course he's going to deny it because it's none of their damn business either.

I can't believe the 6th grade morality of the American public who still expect their leaders to behave according to some child's conception of idealized "grown-up" behavior. People are human beings. Deal with it.

What he does with his dick doesn't get Americans killed and doesn't cost me any money so what the hell do I care? It's his business and no one else's

With all due respect, and I may be wrong about this, but....

Would you have said the same thing if GWB had been caught having an affair with a woman other than his wife? Somehow I doubt it.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Well, when you spend millions parading pretentious, phony sanctimony people will get pissed when it's exposed to be largely a sham. Of course it's their own fault for believing it in the first place, and for allowing themselves to be manipulated on those particular moralistic grounds, but your statement still seems to be lacking context.

What sanctimony? Did Edwards ever hold himself up as a paragon of personal virtue? Is he in the personal virtue business? No. That seems to be a republican monopoly. He's a politician. He's in the policy business, which has nothing to do with where he puts his dick or with what he does or doesn't say about it.

You people show this childish need for perfect, sexless leaders on white chargers, people in whose mouths butter will not melt, and then when they let you down you get all hysterical and Oedipal about it, as if you just found out that Daddy has a penis and a desire to use it. Daddy, how could you!?

Well you know what? Not only do such sexless father-figures not exist, but private virtue has nothing to do with public competence. Saints make shitty generals. The fact that Jefferson kept slaves and slept with one doesn't detract from the genius of what he did. The rest of the world laughs at us for being such a rube nation when it comes to our Puritan ethics, and they're right. You should be ashamed.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

With all due respect, and I may be wrong about this, but....

Would you have said the same thing if GWB had been caught having an affair with a woman other than his wife? Somehow I doubt it.

Yes I sure as hell would have. I would have been gleeful because it would have been funny, but it has nothing to do with what Bush has or hasn't done policy wise and it's no one's fucking business but Bush's. Stay out of it.

Well... I might have gotten some digs in because of all of Bush's family-friendly legislation, which makes him a hypocrite. But I still believe a politician's personal life is his own damned business. It would not have made me think any less (or more) of him as a man. I would not have been (or would be) especially shocked. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it's already happened. I'm funny that way. I expect these guys to be human.

What's-his-name in the public restroom? He was only funny because he was anti-gay. But Edwards never painted himself as Anti-affair or holier-than-thou. The man fucked around. What? Are we supposed to pretend that only sinless politicians are worthy of respect?

How many great men and women aren't running for office because they have some stupid skeleton in their closet they're afraid of having exposed? Instead we have to make do with these squeaky-clean mediocrities?

So he fucked around on his wife. What if the guy's got a plan to solve the energy crisis? You think we might cut him some slack?

Not likely.