Scat (no, i'm not talking about jazz)

[ownedsubgal]

hehe yes, it's been discussed here and there, but i've been unable to find an entire thread dedicated to the subject...so here goes. the reality is, scat in some form or other is a part of many D/s and BDSM relationships. it's not the "fringe" perv activity it used to be (if it ever truly was)...whether it's forced enemas, mouth cleaning, "brown showers", or full load ingestion. before i became a slave, i didn't think anyone actually did such things. it just seemed so ridiculous, so out of the realm of possibility (can we say naive?)...the first time my Master ordered me to clean His bum with my tongue, after He had just gone no. 2, i screamed inwardly. outwardly, i shut my eyes tight and licked and licked like there was no tomorrow, hoping to get the job done fast. He was sooooo proud...i think maybe He was even somewhat surprised that i had done it, and without any hesitation, talk or complaint. now that has become a routine part of my service to Him...sometimes, i end up swallowing a bit more than other times. poopy does not taste as bad as one would think....it's not pleasant (at least not for me), but it's mostly just like a very bitter mush going down your throat. smelling it is almost as bad, but i have to constantly inhale in order to breathe, and also so that i know when i have cleaned Him properly. i have to clean Him until no hint of poop can be seen or smelled. as of yet, He has not pooped on me or actually pooped in my mouth. i very much doubt the latter would ever happen, tho one never knows. but i think i've reached a point mentally where i would no longer care so much if he did those things. i think He could easily condition me to become silently accustomed to any number of filthy or depraved acts. ..i wonder, is this growth?

anywho, what are everyone else's feelings/thoughts on scat? are they a part of your D/s or BDSM? what purpose does it serve? and if you are one of those who swears up and down you will never ever be part of such a thing....are you able to think back on other activities which you once said the very same thing about, but now are a part of your regular routine? also, why is this such a taboo?

 

[catalina_francisco]

Scat in its many forms has a huge following, both in and out of D/s. I do think the mindset differs most times between the pure fetishist and the D/s endeavor to use it as part of service, usually with some level of humiliation/degradation play around the act. Of course there is also the safety aspects attached which differ depending to whom you speak, but gleaning as much information from reliable sources and using some old fashioned common sense is a good way for most interested to go. I think this is just one of a long list of taboos which seem to exist on discussion boards, though I have found Europe is much more open to acknowledging such taboos are legitimate choices for those who desire to experiment or pursue them.

Watersports used to be just as likely to attract such cries of disapproval, but over the last few years have noticed a steady change toward wider acceptance of that as a practice..of course the argument is urine is sterile and safe and shit is not, but the reality is it all depends in both cases with whose body the substances are coming from and if there are any bacterias, infections, etc., present and not readily visible. I think the health factor and life conditioning has a huge part to play with the off limits quality of it, but just as we have seen before, those aspects eventually lessen in importance as education and discussion takes place and the myths and mystery are stripped away a little.

Catalina

 

[YinandYang]

It is not something I have done, or would consider right at this time. But I think when you love someone, and that love grows so do your bounderies or limits

 

[AngelicAssassin]

what purpose does it serve?

This part of the question has the answer in a D/s relationship. One provides service to another. You mentioned rimming with a purpose. Seems like the act achieves multiple purposes, from the objective (no pun intended) view of a clean anus, to the objective (pun intended) view of humiliating the server in question. If said server has reservations about getting treated as less than human, you've put one out of the park with this act.

 

[Quint]

I'm not entirely sure why this remains my final taboo, but it still is. I'm getting better, but I still say "I need to use the restroom" rather than permit the actual nature of the act to cross my lips. Pun intended.

 

[TaintedB]

I'm not entirely sure why this remains my final taboo, but it still is. I'm getting better, but I still say "I need to use the restroom" rather than permit the actual nature of the act to cross my lips. Pun intended.

No "snacktrays" for you, eh?

I can deal with it in a very limited sense: when I'm rimming someone it doesn't bother me, in fact it feels like a natural part of the humiliation of the act and I'm usually so turned on when doing somethign like that, that it doesn't matter too much. I don't think I'd mind it in an ass-to-mouth context either. But anything more than that makes it likely that I will throw up, and naseua is the opposite of erotic to me.

 

[Marquis]

The closest thing I've done to scat is making a bitch suck my dick after I've fucked her ass. Even that is only when she's been VERY naughty, and I often wonder if it was the right thing to do afterwards.

 

[princess4u]

while i readily admit "to each his/her own" -
this is definitely something not for me -
it is just totally beyond my comprehension

i rimmed my former master many times -
but it was always after a very cleansing shower

scat is just completely out of the realm of possibilities for me

 

[Killishandra]

I try to keep a policy for myself of not 100% knocking anything till I've tried it. But.....
From the viewpoint of a microbiology student, I'd like to say that the ingestion of poo is the reverse of what Mother Nature intended for us, and that it is loaded with all kinds of goodies like Escherichia coli and other potentially pathogenic species. Besides, you can catch all kinds of things from the ingestion of this substance... From hepatitus to a cold. It all depends on if the person you're playing with has any of these diseases or pathogens.

Personally, I find the idea of ingesting it to be highly distasteful and for now I would place it in my "hard limits" catergory. Rimming, when the person is very clean, seems like a posibility for me... 'cause it's a sensitive place and an erogenous zone. It has been performed on me once, and once I got over being freaked out it did feel kind of pleasurable. Not so sure how I'd feel about performing it on someone else, though.

 

[Bandit58]

Personally, I find the idea of ingesting it to be highly distasteful and for now I would place it in my "hard limits" catergory. Rimming, when the person is very clean, seems like a posibility for me... 'cause it's a sensitive place and an erogenous zone. It has been performed on me once, and once I got over being freaked out it did feel kind of pleasurable. Not so sure how I'd feel about performing it on someone else, though.

Ditto for me - Master has no desire to go there anyway. I have been rimmed by a previous partner though and did enjoy it, but did not perform it on him and he did not ask me to.

I did have the experience recently of trying to explain scat play to a friend's 13 year old daughter and her friend, who had been sent a link by someone they were chatting to on msn They were both highly disgusted and wanted to know if people really did that sort of thing! I did tell them that yes some people did do it, but it wasn't all that common and wasn't the sort of thing that 13 year olds should be looking at anyway, and whoever sent them the link was nasty especially because they had said they were 15!

 

[CptrdRose]

Just reading this thread turns my stomach. Definately something on my hard limits list. I feel the same way about golden showers, only a little less disgusted overall.

I've been fucked up the ass before and have worried that the guy's cock would come out a little less clean than it went in. That is one area that I just don't want to deal with and don't want my playmates to deal with.

 

[Marquis]

Just reading this thread turns my stomach. Definately something on my hard limits list. I feel the same way about golden showers, only a little less disgusted overall.

I've been fucked up the ass before and have worried that the guy's cock would come out a little less clean than it went in. That is one area that I just don't want to deal with and don't want my playmates to deal with.

What is your gender and orientation?

 

[CutieMouse]

Not that I've done it (because I haven't), but during an interesting conversation I learned that there are some people in the Lifestyle who use a microwave to heat things to a certian temperature to kill any potential nasties... and there is a limit to what one could "safely" ingest in a 24 hour period, but I can't remember the suggested amount.

 

[Aeroil]

Not that I've done it (because I haven't), but during an interesting conversation I learned that there are some people in the Lifestyle who use a microwave to heat things to a certian temperature to kill any potential nasties... and there is a limit to what one could "safely" ingest in a 24 hour period, but I can't remember the suggested amount.

That really wouldn't work unless you could microwave your colon I think, there are a lot of bacteria that live in your colon and they are the only things that can break fibre down, so they're kinda necessary.

 

[Marquis]

That really wouldn't work unless you could microwave your colon I think, there are a lot of bacteria that live in your colon and they are the only things that can break fibre down, so they're kinda necessary.

Just when I thought we weren't going to have to get into any more detail.

 

[Aeroil]

Just when I thought we weren't going to have to get into any more detail.

lol, what's wrong with detail? so long as it's not graphic detail.

 

[CutieMouse]

That really wouldn't work unless you could microwave your colon I think, there are a lot of bacteria that live in your colon and they are the only things that can break fibre down, so they're kinda necessary.

I believe the theory was to heat the waste to 140-160 degrees prior to ingesting it to kill the potectial e coli/ etc.

 

[TaintedB]

I believe the theory was to heat the waste to 140-160 degrees prior to ingesting it to kill the potectial e coli/ etc.

Yes indeedy, this topic is getting a bit hard to "stomach." Speaking of which, anybody know if there's any truth to the rumor that ingesting your own scat is orders of magnitude more safe than ingesting someone else's?

 

[Marquis]

Yes indeedy, this topic is getting a bit hard to "stomach." Speaking of which, anybody know if there's any truth to the rumor that ingesting your own scat is orders of magnitude more safe than ingesting someone else's?

It would make sense. I'm no bio-student, but I believe we all have a unique set of microbes that help us digest food. It stands to reason that a product of our digestive system would be less harmful to the same digestive system.

 

[Aeroil]

I believe the theory was to heat the waste to 140-160 degrees prior to ingesting it to kill the potectial e coli/ etc.

ooooh, I was thinking that they heated up everything they ate. Yeah that does have a rather nasty image lol, but it does sound like it may work.

 

[catalina_francisco]

Yes indeedy, this topic is getting a bit hard to "stomach." Speaking of which, anybody know if there's any truth to the rumor that ingesting your own scat is orders of magnitude more safe than ingesting someone else's?

It is one of the safest methods of scat simply because whatever you are ingesting is already a part of your system anyway...hence why it is relatively safe to indulge in ass to mouth play, especially if a point is being made. As a point of interest to those who mention the chance of digesting E coli, it is part of everyone's intestinal system, abundant in newborns, and is also abundant in the everyday environment. It does not mean you go willy nilly playing with scat with just anyone and everyone, but does mean it is not necessarily a high risk with a steady partner you know the health of. Of course there are those who are Pro scat Mistresses/Masters and are paid to deliver and/or receive depending on their taste, and from what I have heard it is not unusual to have scat parties. Have read quite a lot of interesting articles etc., on this type play and spoken to people who are professionally involved, about the risks etc. It is also possible with open minded health professionals, to have tests done on yourself and partner before engaging in scat so you know what you are getting involved with. This article on E coli might be of interest to some...have some others but think they are on the other PC.

Catalina

 

[Quint]

Soooooo getting the general idea that eating it isn't much in style.

Marquis, T did what you described (getting me to suck his cock after a nice rowdy assfuck) once and I will admit that I was completely in the moment and did it without hesitation, fully understanding how filthy that made me. Good times. But honestly, if his dick had come out and I had seen anything on it? I don't think I could have done it. There is a huge mental block there.

I'm actually delighted that this thread is alive and civil. May not be my cuppa but it's lowering my irrational fear of feces to hear people chat about it. "Personal growth," right osg?

 

[shy slave]

Not that I've done it (because I haven't), but during an interesting conversation I learned that there are some people in the Lifestyle who use a microwave to heat things to a certian temperature to kill any potential nasties... and there is a limit to what one could "safely" ingest in a 24 hour period, but I can't remember the suggested amount.

I am just trying to imagine a plate of it in the microwave.

Do you serve it with chips or a side salad?

 

[YinandYang]

I am just trying to imagine a plate of it in the microwave.

Do you serve it with chips or a side salad?

Oh my God....the actual act of getting it in there is kind of making me a bit queasy

I was thinking...would this practice be more prevailant in a master/slave scenario? And less prevailent in a dom/me/sub scene?

My line of thinking is that there would have to be some total respect, honour going on there to comfortably do it? Perhaps something a person wouldn't enter into unless the need to serve was extrememly strong?

 

[TaintedB]

Oh my God....the actual act of getting it in there is kind of making me a bit queasy

I was thinking...would this practice be more prevailant in a master/slave scenario? And less prevailent in a dom/me/sub scene?

My line of thinking is that there would have to be some total respect, honour going on there to comfortably do it? Perhaps something a person wouldn't enter into unless the need to serve was extrememly strong?

Well, like Catalina said, some people have a scat fetish. If said person is also a submissive, it probably wouldn't be so hard for him to do, in fact he'd probably be initiating it!

While it's hard to imagine a submissive doing this during a one-night-stand scene or a casual encounter at a play party, to me, the deciding factors of whether to eat or not to eat would not be respect or honor, but rather:

--how controlling (and how good at controlling) my partner was
--whether or not I brought unusually strong personal phobias or aversions about the act to the table and also whether my partner knew how to deal with such things in a way that didn't leave us both worse off than before, as his decision on whether to push this issue would probably take in a realistic appraisal of the likely outcome
--my dominant partner's wishes. I mean, even if I had the biggest scat fetish in the world, if my dominant was dominant, so to speak, and didn't like that shit, or thought it was too unsafe, we just wouldn't go there.