Same Sex Experimentation

[sweetnpetite]

I guess maybe in a way I did ask you if you were lying to yourself. But I didn't really think of it in those terms until reading this post. I never thought you were lying to me or the thread for a minute. We all lie to ourselves sometimes- we have to, we can't always live up to our ideals, and our minds can't handle the paradox. Er.. I hope that I'm not just puting my foot farther in my mouth.

When people get mad at me, I don't know what to say. I feel like a kid when your parents say "WHY DID YOU DO THAT? WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING?" "And you know that any answer is going to get you slapped on the face, but if you stand their staring down at the ground, your in big trouble to.

Again- I'm sorry.

I try to say what I mean and mean what I say. As I read it, the essence of her message was "I know you just said 'A', but don't you really mean 'B'?". To me, that's tantamount to saying "you're a liar".



Again, I wonder would the same question be asked in reverse of a self-identified gay man who had one het experience and decided pussy just wasn't his thing? I'd find that equally insulting, and for the same reasons.

I do publicly apologize to Sweet&petite for being unnecessariily and shockingly rude. There was no need to open up the firehose. A glassful would have sufficed.

Seems obvious I can't stand the heat.

 

[minsue]

I guess maybe in a way I did ask you if you were lying to yourself. But I didn't really think of it in those terms until reading this post. I never thought you were lying to me or the thread for a minute. We all lie to ourselves sometimes- we have to, we can't always live up to our ideals, and our minds can't handle the paradox. Er.. I hope that I'm not just puting my foot farther in my mouth.

When people get mad at me, I don't know what to say. I feel like a kid when your parents say "WHY DID YOU DO THAT? WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING?" "And you know that any answer is going to get you slapped on the face, but if you stand their staring down at the ground, your in big trouble to.

Again- I'm sorry.

Once more for good measure

 

[sweetnpetite]

Here you go, SnP.

Thanks minsue (2x,)

 

[Pornofan420]

Sweetnpetite, I really don't know why I flew off the handle like that. My response was cranked up to an inappropriate 11 for reasons that have to do with issues outside Literotica. And I seem to hold that memory dearer than I expected. I think the feeling of being called a liar in relation to that story triggered something.

It's a bit depressing to realize that all these years of living in California, doing yoga, and eating vegetables have done basicaly fuck-all to affect the fact that I can flcik a switch and unleash a blast of hostility like that. Not one of my finer moments.

Sweet, whatever disagreement I may have had over phrasing, there was no excuse for my tone and again, I apologize. You touched a nerve and I let loose inapropriately.

As far as sounding like a Pesto, never seen the show but point taken. When my Irish gets up, it does have a tendency to come out sounding Italian. New York is a melting pot.

p.s. Sweet, I accept your apology and once again offer mine.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Sweetnpetite, I really don't know why I flew off the handle like that. My response was cranked up to an inappropriate 11 for reasons that have to do with issues outside Literotica. And I seem to hold that memory dearer than I expected. I think the feeling of being called a liar in relation to that story triggered something.

It's a bit depressing to realize that all these years of living in California, doing yoga, and eating vegetables have done basicaly fuck-all to affect the fact that I can flcik a switch and unleash a blast of hostility like that. Not one of my finer moments.

Sweet, whatever disagreement I may have had over phrasing, there was no excuse for my tone and again, I apologize. You touched a nerve and I let loose inapropriately.

As far as sounding like a Pesto, never seen the show but point taken. When my Irish gets up, it does have a tendency to come out sounding Italian. New York is a melting pot.

p.s. Sweet, I accept your apology and once again offer mine.

Accepted. Glad we got that out of the way.

Two of my three kids are half irish (my side) and half italian. //well not exactly half and half, probably 1/3 Irish and 1/4 Italian All they do is beat each other up all day long, lol. (Sort of a joke, but also pretty darn true.) They don't look italian in the least. Madonna looks more itallian than they. But they are still Italian. You know there is no box anywear for Itallian (or even Mediteranian)- it's just 'white' Italian diserves it's own box.

(I dont watch those mafia movies either, so I didn't get the comparison drawn eirlier either.)

 

[minsue]

LOL

It's not from a mafia movie. I know Goodfeathers from the cartoon Animaniacs. Goodfeathers was one of the recurring segments, though I read SlickTony's post to say they now have their own cartoon.

It's a parody.

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1130/good_feathers_names.jpg

Edited for accuracy...

 

[lucky-E-leven]

LOL

It's not from a mafia movie. I know Goodfeathers from the cartoon Animaniacs. Goodfeathers was one of the recurring segments, though I read SlickTony's post to say they now have their own cartoon.

It's a parody.

http://www.geocities.com/EnchantedForest/1130/good_feathers_names.jpg

Edited for accuracy...

Oh, the goose is just gorgeous, Min!!!!!!!

~lucky

 

[minsue]

Oh, the goose is just gorgeous, Min!!!!!!!

~lucky

Thanks. The internet abounds with clothed geese.

 

[Lukie]

Italians

Yes, Italians should have thier own box....they bring so much to the world! Not mofia movies...everyone forgets the art, wine, fashion of the country......you sparked me when you wrote this!

 

[Pornofan420]

Growing up in New York and getting the Ellis Island story every year until about 9th grade, it seems to me that Italians didn't really become officially "white" until the mid-20th century.

It is rather dismissive to lump Italians, Irish, Swedes, Croats, and Russians, etc., both genetically and culturally, under the banner of "White". That just shortchanges everyone.

And if I cheesed of anyone with my comment about "sounding Italian", let me contextualize. I went to school in Bay Ridge, Brooklyn ('81-8'7). This is the neighborhood where they filmed Saturday Night Fever, and the parts in which I spent much my time were significantly Italian in makeup. And yeah, there is a segment of the population that does sound a bit that way. You should see the Christmas light displays some of the houses put up. Tour busses go by in season.

I now live in California and yeah, a lot of people (including Mrs. 420 & me) say "dude" here. Us Californicators also, as far as I can see, have more responsibility for Mafia movies than Italians.

 

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[SlickTony]

Goodfeathers was one of the recurring segments, though I read SlickTony's post to say they now have their own cartoon.

They do, and it's hilarious. Pesto is always taking something his sidekick Squit says completely amiss, and then he yells "That's it!"and poor Squit gets beaten up. It's a parody of Goodfellows, which I've never seen but I still find the 'toon hilarious. Both my guys are serious Animaniacs fans.

I'm glad we're back to peaceably examining one another's motivations like the writers we are.

it seems to me that Italians didn't really become officially "white" until the mid-20th century.

If Willa Cather is to be believed, Swedes in 19th century Nebraska went through their period of being looked down on, hired as servants, their women sexually harassed by their "Anglo" employers and "betters." 'Course by the time the ancestors I knew of came along they'd taken over the state.

 

[Pornofan420]

This thread made me remember a funny time in my life. I had just moved to Seattle (since left) and was spending my free nights dancing at the bottom of Queen Anne Hill at a club called Romper Room. For weeks, I couldn't catch the eye of a single woman, try as I might. But at least one guy a night would give me the eye.

I couldn't figure out what was going on until I realized most nights I went dancing alone were warm nights and I was wearing a white T-shirt, dark blue cargo shorts, black boots and grey wool socks rolled dwon to my ankles. I think that looked gayer than I realized at the time.

 

[SlickTony]

I couldn't figure out what was going on until I realized most nights I went dancing alone were warm nights and I was wearing a white T-shirt, dark blue cargo shorts, black boots and grey wool socks rolled dwon to my ankles. I think that looked gayer than I realized at the time.

I will not bite...I will not bite...things just got settled down around here.

 

[NoJo]

Besides the occasional masturbation fantasy, I've never really considered having sex with a guy. I was propositioned a lot when I lived in San Francisco, but as I was still a virgin, I thought it was important that my first sexual encounter was with a woman, otherwise it might set a precedent. Had to wait till I got to NY tho. I wouldn't mind a really nice Ladyboy but there again who wouldn't.

 

[Pornofan420]

Indeed, Tony. It's strange. Sexually, I'm just not that into guys. I find S&M in a mixed pansexual crowd very pleasant. One of the sexiest S&M things I've ever seen was two guys, a St. Andrew's cross, a single-tail whip in the hands of a sniper, and a tall, buff, tattooed bottom from Texas who took about a minute after each blow to process the sensation by grunting and shaking the whole cross without once crying out. WOW, hot! Proposed to Mrs. 420 at that event.

I find myself really confortable in a gay male contaxt. Just don't feel the sexual urge towards men. And I'm a slob who lives in jeans and ratty t-shirts so really don't qualify as a "metrosexual". [ Mrs. 420: "Although it wouldn't be a crime if someone applied a Queer Eye to your wardrobe." ]

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

Anybody on the AH who's straight but who's epxerimented with someone of the same sex? Anyone who's gay who's messed around with the opposite sex (*after* accepting your homosexuality) Do tell!

~Sweet~

I remember you starting a topic (somewhat like this one) on the GLBT forums. I am not sure if I ever posted there (in response to your question) but I do have a response for you now.

I have been living as an active Switch for years. A few years ago I stopped messing with men altogether (as they were never really my cuppa tea to begin with) and began living as a lesbian..

Fast forward to now..

A few nights ago, I met up with a guy I used to date ages ago. We hung out for a while and I decided that I would give fucking a guy another chance. Big mistake on my part.

I realized almost immediately WHY i stopped dating guys. (yeah that sounds like a generalisation and coming from an admitted omnisexual makes it even worse) I guess one can go from being bi (or pan) to being completely homosexual...I just never really thought it would happen to ME!!

later
pet

 

[NoJo]

The mistake you made was the dating part, not the fucking part.

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

The mistake you made was the dating part, not the fucking part.

yeah...you are probably right...

what's really strange? I can still play with guys (in a strictly BDSM way) and I even have a boi but sexually..just can not find it in myself to indulge anymore.

(maybe, I need to wait for a while before I try again)

 

[SlickTony]

I'll probably get scolded for this, but I can't help thinking the same thing that I say to people who dislike some food that I like and, morever, have excellent recipes for: "It really is good...you just had a bad experience with it."

 

[Luna_Wolf72]

I'll probably get scolded for this, but I can't help thinking the same thing that I say to people who dislike some food that I like and, morever, have excellent recipes for: "It really is good...you just had a bad experience with it."

LOL

 

[SlickTony]

My momma is the same way. She has this broccoli salad recipe that she swears would convert George I, that famous hater of broccoli.