Same Sex Experimentation

[Liar]

That's ok, you can still share. How about those confusing years? How'd you sort yourself out?

Quickly. That was before I ever had any hands-on experience. Kind of funny, had always been more interrested in looking at men, and I was certain that I was gay, had really no problem with that. I was just glad that I knew what the hell I was. Then, all of a sudden and out of the blue, I fell in love with a girl at school. That was really unsettling.

These days I tend to be more interrested in women in general, but it is not exclusive either way.

#L

ps. Me thinks juanjsojr needs a spanking. Please, be straight if that is your bag. But don't be a prick.

 

[Remec]

Re: Re: Re: Same Sex Experimentation

wow...

how did/do you feel about the experience?

That's a good question.

While I can sort of understand what makes a guy attractive to women, I don't find that guys do anything for me personally. I really think the excitement during what happened...or even when I relive the experience in my memory...comes mostly from how turned on my girlfriend was at seeing it all transpire.

Well, that and the really great blowjob I got. <EG>

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Re: i WOULDN'T

it's sick I wouldn't give it a try it alot better being straight then kissing some other guy people are sick trying it even bis

Oh Juan, so quick to jump on this issue, yet your story is about two men, father and son to be exact. Hmmm.

Not to mention, you always have something to say on threads that have a homosexual content.

Is it just me, or is there a piece of the puzzle missing?

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

Oh Juan, so quick to jump on this issue, yet your story is about two men, father and son to be exact. Hmmm.

Not to mention, you always have something to say on threads that have a homosexual content.

Is it just me, or is there a piece of the puzzle missing?

Yeah, his dick!!!

He hasn't got one!!

His posts reek of dicklessness.

How's your "brilliant" "best-writing-on-Lit" "story" doing, Juan?

Lou

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Re: Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

Yeah, his dick!!!

He hasn't got one!!

His posts reek of dicklessness.

How's your "brilliant" "best-writing-on-Lit" "story" doing, Juan?

Lou

Lou, you're so sexy when you're filthy, kiss me in front of Juan...please?

lol

~A~

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

Lou, you're so sexy when you're filthy, kiss me in front of Juan...please?

lol

~A~

Hmmm, with pleasure... a long, lingering, open-mouthed kiss, with plenty of tongue.

I might even give your ass a firm squeeze, for good measure.

Lou

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

Hmmm, with pleasure... a long, lingering, open-mouthed kiss, with plenty of tongue.

I might even give your ass a firm squeeze, for good measure.

Lou

I'm swooning, I hope Juan has his camera. Dad might want to see the pics.

~A~

 

[Guest]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

I'm swooning, I hope Juan has his camera. Dad might want to see the pics.

~A~

Huge fucking LOL!!!

They'd get plenty of mutual wanking material out of that.

Lou

P.S. I'm waiting for Joe to own up to being Juan one day...

 

[BlackSnake]

I had a guy to touch my dick while I was fucking his wife. It freaked me out and I did everything I could to keep him from getting near it again. I'm not against gay/bi guys at all, but I just couldn't handle that.

 

[Boota]

I've never had, or been tempted to have, any same sex contact. I'm not a hompohobe, it just does nothing for me.

This is somewhat off topic, I guess, but I have been with quite a few women who profess to be lesbians. I'm not sure why, but for some reason I seem to attract women who have never been with men and suddenly feel like giving it a try. It's happened about 20-25 times and we've went through with it... <counting>... eleven times.

I'm not a good looking guy who makes it where they just can't help themselves. LOL. I don't know what it is. I asked one of my friends, who is a "confirmed" lesbian, what it could be. She explained it by saying she thinks it's the fact that I'm such a big guy, with the muscles and all, that if they are going for me it is because they are looking for a kind of stereotype of what they think a man is. Maybe in their minds I'm supposed to be representing all men. (No pressure, huh? LOL.)

I don't know if that's accurate, or if it's just over thinking it. I've always been curious about it.

I hope I haven't derailed this thread too much.

As you were.

 

[Raging Whoremoans]

Re: i WOULDN'T

it's sick I wouldn't give it a try it alot better being straight then kissing some other guy people are sick trying it even bis

Hey Juan,

I just read your story! Wow! (Might want to find an editor, buddy.)

I have to agree that some lesbians are sick and boring. But after reading your story I can see why you'd think that. You know...if you're tired of this kind of sick and boring shit, I know someone who'd be happy to play Daddy and fuck you in the ass. Good news for you, too! He lives in Florida. AND, as an added bonus, he might even show you how to use the shift key for capitalization and point out where the commas and periods are on your computer.

PM me if you're interested.

~ R W

****Down with sick and boring lesbians!!!!!!!!!!!! And a hearty HELL YEAH, to the non-sick and far from boring ones!!!!!!!!!! ****

 

[ABSTRUSE]

Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

****Down with sick and boring lesbians!!!!!!!!!!!! And a hearty HELL YEAH, to the non-sick and far from boring ones!!!!!!!!!! ****

HELL YEAH!!!! No more sick and boring lesbians.

Lesbian anarchy!!!!!!!

~A~

 

[cloudy]

Re: Re: Re: i WOULDN'T

HELL YEAH!!!! No more sick and boring lesbians.

Lesbian anarchy!!!!!!!

~A~

ROTFLMAO!

To keep in subject here (as I still giggle my ass off)......

I think (was extremely drunk at the time) that I sorta experimented once with a female friend, but I don't remember much about it.

Would really be open to the experience, if I knew the whole thing was "safe", if ya know what I mean......I'm extremely curious.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Weird, I thought you were a female. (no offence)

Maybe it's that you're a big muscular guy with a sensative side, and they just can't help but satisfy a curiosity for that combinations.

I've never had, or been tempted to have, any same sex contact. I'm not a hompohobe, it just does nothing for me.

This is somewhat off topic, I guess, but I have been with quite a few women who profess to be lesbians. I'm not sure why, but for some reason I seem to attract women who have never been with men and suddenly feel like giving it a try. It's happened about 20-25 times and we've went through with it... <counting>... eleven times.

I'm not a good looking guy who makes it where they just can't help themselves. LOL. I don't know what it is. I asked one of my friends, who is a "confirmed" lesbian, what it could be. She explained it by saying she thinks it's the fact that I'm such a big guy, with the muscles and all, that if they are going for me it is because they are looking for a kind of stereotype of what they think a man is. Maybe in their minds I'm supposed to be representing all men. (No pressure, huh? LOL.)

I don't know if that's accurate, or if it's just over thinking it. I've always been curious about it.

I hope I haven't derailed this thread too much.

As you were.

 

[RenzaJones]

LOL. Would love to here the details on that one.

Did he know?

Oh there were no fireworks hell there weren't even fire flies and he thought things were great First missionary sex isn't fantastic to begin with and second you'd think after having the equipment all his damn life he wouuld be familiar with how it should work bt nope he was sizable but he had no rhytym but the kicker was he was done with the game before I'd even rolled the dice

 

[Boota]

Weird, I thought you were a female. (no offence)

Maybe it's that you're a big muscular guy with a sensative side, and they just can't help but satisfy a curiosity for that combinations.

I take no offense, Sweet. I've been told my writing makes some people think I'm female. I take that as compliment. Especially in writing erotica. (I don't think my novel writing has fooled anyone. LOL.) And especially if you knew what I look like. LOL.

Your theory is definitely possible. I've never gotten an answer on it from any of the women. If it ever happens again, I'll try to find out.

 

[Pornofan420]

There was a time back in college when I found myself sans girlfriend and sociallyn isolated and very, very alone. Then I ran into Jake. A bit younger than me, short blond hair. He worked at the bookstore I shopped.

Plot, plot, plot, we ended up back at my apartment talking books, when he saw a copy of a book on bisexuality on my shelf.

Suddenly, we're kissing. I realized then I was just skin-hungry. I needed to hold and kiss and touch someone, even a cute guy with a scratchy demi-beard.

I got his cock out and...had a total "guy moment" and thought "Cool, my dick's bigger than his". I went down on him and discovered I had talent. Probably a lot to learn, but potential. He went down on me a bit and then we jerked off together.

I was kinda jazzed when he told me he'd had his eye on me because I looked "manly" while all the other patrons he fancied were rather fey.

Then I dropped him off and never went back to that store (left town soon).

I just wasn't my thing. Haven't gone back since. Just really overwhelmingly prefer the taste of pussy to that of cock. But, at least I can say for sure.

 

[sweetnpetite]

Talk about having your cake and eating it too! Your one homosexual experience cinfirmrd both your heterosexuality and your masculinity (You were bigger than him and he told you how manly you were).

Not to be contentious- but are you sure you weren't just spooked? I mean did you really not like it as much as being with a woman, or do you just have a hard time with seeing yourself as 'gay'?

-Sweet, who doesn't know when to shut up

There was a time back in college when I found myself sans girlfriend and sociallyn isolated and very, very alone. Then I ran into Jake. A bit younger than me, short blond hair. He worked at the bookstore I shopped.

Plot, plot, plot, we ended up back at my apartment talking books, when he saw a copy of a book on bisexuality on my shelf.

Suddenly, we're kissing. I realized then I was just skin-hungry. I needed to hold and kiss and touch someone, even a cute guy with a scratchy demi-beard.

I got his cock out and...had a total "guy moment" and thought "Cool, my dick's bigger than his". I went down on him and discovered I had talent. Probably a lot to learn, but potential. He went down on me a bit and then we jerked off together.

I was kinda jazzed when he told me he'd had his eye on me because I looked "manly" while all the other patrons he fancied were rather fey.

Then I dropped him off and never went back to that store (left town soon).

I just wasn't my thing. Haven't gone back since. Just really overwhelmingly prefer the taste of pussy to that of cock. But, at least I can say for sure.

 

[Pornofan420]

[If the following rant causes some people to think poorly of me, that's indeed my loss. I've had a shitty week at work and there's probably a bit of overreaction here. But that only affects the volume knob, not the channel.]

You know what Sweet, fuck you in the ear.

If you don't want to belive what I say about my history, your perogative. If you don't want to believe what I assert about my own sexuality, that's also your perogative. If you don't want to believe that a guy can question his orientation, suck a cock when he's desperately lonely and starving for the compassionate touch of another person, even another guy, and come out the other end thinking "nah, that's nice but not really my thing", once again your perogative.

But to have you insinuate that I'm a liar (and yes, that's how it reads to me) after soliciting stories of people's own same-sex experimentation is abso-fucking-lutely outrageous.

I gew up and was schooled in Brooklyn/Queens, and was a time when, if you said that to my face, I'd be on my feet opening up the firehose of bile and vitriol, banging the table and demanding a fucking apology, toute suite. I don't come from a people who take being called liars with good grace. I've been called fat, stupid, lazy, feckless, careless, "not really half Irish" because the other half was a little too Filipino and melanin-having for the speaker's personal comfort level, as well as other many other things, not all undeserved.

All of these I bore with varying levels of good grace. But call me a liar and pass it off with a coquettish smiley doesn't fucking wash. Some buttons don't get unpushed.

Would you ever in you life think of saying to a self-identified gay person "Are you sure that one het experience wasn't REALLY what you want?" What the fuck makes it acceptable to hit me with that?

You're right, you don't know when to shut the fuck up. But that's what ignore lists are for. Welcome to mine.

Talk about having your cake and eating it too! Your one homosexual experience cinfirmrd both your heterosexuality and your masculinity (You were bigger than him and he told you how manly you were).

Not to be contentious- but are you sure you weren't just spooked? I mean did you really not like it as much as being with a woman, or do you just have a hard time with seeing yourself as 'gay'?

-Sweet, who doesn't know when to shut up

 

[SeaCat]

Re: i WOULDN'T

it's sick I wouldn't give it a try it alot better being straight then kissing some other guy people are sick trying it even bis

Poor sweet Juan. Somehow you seem to think that other people experimenting around with something you dislike is sick. Maybe you should run for government along with the Bush Brothers. It does seem strange to me that you hold these views after reading the story you posted recently. Or maybe, nah,, we wont go there.
As for me experimenting with it, yeah I tried it a time or three. No big deal. (So has my wife.) While it was interesting and enjoyable for me, I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoy hetero sex. My wife feels the same way with her experiences. Neither of us would turn it down again, but we're not looking for it either.

SeaCat

 

[lucky-E-leven]

[If the following rant causes some people to think poorly of me, that's indeed my loss. I've had a shitty week at work and there's probably a bit of overreaction here. But that only affects the volume knob, not the channel.]

You know what Sweet, fuck you in the ear.

If you don't want to belive what I say about my history, your perogative. If you don't want to believe what I assert about my own sexuality, that's also your perogative. If you don't want to believe that a guy can question his orientation, suck a cock when he's desperately lonely and starving for the compassionate touch of another person, even another guy, and come out the other end thinking "nah, that's nice but not really my thing", once again your perogative.

But to have you insinuate that I'm a liar (and yes, that's how it reads to me) after soliciting stories of people's own same-sex experimentation is abso-fucking-lutely outrageous.

I gew up and was schooled in Brooklyn/Queens, and was a time when, if you said that to my face, I'd be on my feet opening up the firehose of bile and vitriol, banging the table and demanding a fucking apology, toute suite. I don't come from a people who take being called liars with good grace. I've been called fat, stupid, lazy, feckless, careless, "not really half Irish" because the other half was a little too Filipino and melanin-having for the speaker's personal comfort level, as well as other many other things, not all undeserved.

All of these I bore with varying levels of good grace. But call me a liar and pass it off with a coquettish smiley doesn't fucking wash. Some buttons don't get unpushed.

Would you ever in you life think of saying to a self-identified gay person "Are you sure that one het experience wasn't REALLY what you want?" What the fuck makes it acceptable to hit me with that?

You're right, you don't know when to shut the fuck up. But that's what ignore lists are for. Welcome to mine.

I wish I were comforted by your semi-disclaimer at the top of this page, but sadly I am not. I'd say that little rant was more than 'a bit of an overreaction', but this too is just my opinion.

I didn't take Sweet's post as calling you a liar in the least. I suppose I can see how you might take it that way, but around here I've learned to give folks the benefit of the doubt. This is a topic that requires a ton of open-mindedness and I'm wondering where yours is right now. If you've followed the rest of this thread, as I have, you'd know that she's asking people about their individual experiences and trying to get to the bottom of it. I don't think she discounted your experience at all. I saw her question as a way of finding out a little more about your true feelings afterwards.

She even asked in a way that allowed you to not have to answer by saying, "I mean, did you really not like it as much as being with a woman, or do you just have a hard time seeing yourself as gay?" I think it's an honest question, considering the way you left your post with a mention of how you bolted town for good the next day. I never doubted that you were being honest about being straight *and now with confirmation...but it did leave a little room for people to wonder.

Not trying to butt my nose in where it doesn't belong, but as you have her on ignore now, I didn't think it fair to let this go. SnP is a very up front poster here and as far as I can tell, she never intended to call you a liar. It's just not who she is or what she's about. Think what you will about all of it, but I wouldn't recommend judging anyone here on a single post that you admittedly might have been overly sensitive to.

As far as I can tell, all you would have had to say was, "No, I wasn't spooked. I'm really straight and my opinions on being gay are none of your business." I think most people here would've understood. Or you could've just let it go entirely. Now please feel free to say, "Fuck you in the ear!" to me, and place me on ignore as well.

~ lucky

 

[SlickTony]

the kicker was he was done with the game before I'd even rolled the dice

A minuteman, hun? Poor Renza, I feel your disappointment. But I like your metaphor. I have made a number of stinging comments about premature ejaculators, but I hadn't heard that one.

But to have you insinuate that I'm a liar (and yes, that's how it reads to me) after soliciting stories of people's own same-sex experimentation is abso-fucking-lutely outrageous.

Pornofan, some members of my family (including myself although I haven't been officially diagnosed, but why shell out $600 to confirm something I can't do anything about?) suffer from a neurological condition that sometimes causes one to totally misread other people's signals/emotional reactions, but even I am having trouble understanding how you inferred that S&P called you a liar. I mean, you come across like Pesto in the TV cartoon Goodfeathers, honest you do.

Most of us here are writers as well as readers. Examining people's motivations/emotional processes is what we do, just like cows turn grass into milk and monkeys swing through the trees and pick fleas off each other. It would be unrealistic to expect that if we put something out in a forum, we're any more likely to be exempt than any of our characters from having our own emotions and thought processes examined. If you can't stand the heat...

If you haven't finished venting your anger or haven't had time to examine what might be at the root of it, you might end up putting me on your ignore list, which would be sort of too bad. I mean, I thought your account of your brush with playing on the other team was a very pleasant one, and deserved to be worked up into a full-blown (sorry, I couldn't resist) story, and if you came up with another post that I liked as well, I would want to tell you and you'd never know. But I felt compelled to add my 2 cents worth to this discussion. OTOH, I have as much as I can do to read the number of posts I do now.

 

[Pornofan420]

I try to say what I mean and mean what I say. As I read it, the essence of her message was "I know you just said 'A', but don't you really mean 'B'?". To me, that's tantamount to saying "you're a liar".

Not to be contentious- but are you sure you weren't just spooked? I mean did you really not like it as much as being with a woman, or do you just have a hard time with seeing yourself as 'gay'?

Again, I wonder would the same question be asked in reverse of a self-identified gay man who had one het experience and decided pussy just wasn't his thing? I'd find that equally insulting, and for the same reasons.

I do publicly apologize to Sweet&petite for being unnecessariily and shockingly rude. There was no need to open up the firehose. A glassful would have sufficed.

Seems obvious I can't stand the heat.

 

[sweetnpetite]

I honestly didn't mean to say that you were a liar. I really liked your story, it just left me with a lingering question. I knew it might be risky to ask, but my curiosity got the better of me. I'm sorry that it came out that way- and if it it made you feel that I was calling you a liar, then I'm sorry I even posted the question at all.

It wasn't meant to call you a name, just to get you think about your reaction. I sorta started this thread to get into peoples heads a little bit, (if you can't tell from my other follow up questions) as well as for a little titilation. But I didn't start it to piss anybody off.

I took a gamble that someone open minded enough to experiment with homosexuality might be able to examine their own motives a little deeper, concider the question and find an answer within himself- not necessarily even to share the answer in open forum, just looking at something he might not have considered before. (And of course share if he felt comfortable with it)

I'm not trying to defend myself, just to explain to you my reasoning for asking the question.

You were offended and I am sorry. Hopefully someone will quote me so that you will see this.

[If the following rant causes some people to think poorly of me, that's indeed my loss. I've had a shitty week at work and there's probably a bit of overreaction here. But that only affects the volume knob, not the channel.]

You know what Sweet, fuck you in the ear.

If you don't want to belive what I say about my history, your perogative. If you don't want to believe what I assert about my own sexuality, that's also your perogative. If you don't want to believe that a guy can question his orientation, suck a cock when he's desperately lonely and starving for the compassionate touch of another person, even another guy, and come out the other end thinking "nah, that's nice but not really my thing", once again your perogative.

But to have you insinuate that I'm a liar (and yes, that's how it reads to me) after soliciting stories of people's own same-sex experimentation is abso-fucking-lutely outrageous.

I gew up and was schooled in Brooklyn/Queens, and was a time when, if you said that to my face, I'd be on my feet opening up the firehose of bile and vitriol, banging the table and demanding a fucking apology, toute suite. I don't come from a people who take being called liars with good grace. I've been called fat, stupid, lazy, feckless, careless, "not really half Irish" because the other half was a little too Filipino and melanin-having for the speaker's personal comfort level, as well as other many other things, not all undeserved.

All of these I bore with varying levels of good grace. But call me a liar and pass it off with a coquettish smiley doesn't fucking wash. Some buttons don't get unpushed.

Would you ever in you life think of saying to a self-identified gay person "Are you sure that one het experience wasn't REALLY what you want?" What the fuck makes it acceptable to hit me with that?

You're right, you don't know when to shut the fuck up. But that's what ignore lists are for. Welcome to mine.

 

[minsue]

I honestly didn't mean to say that you were a liar. I really liked your story, it just left me with a lingering question. I knew it might be risky to ask, but my curiosity got the better of me. I'm sorry that it came out that way- and if it it made you feel that I was calling you a liar, then I'm sorry I even posted the question at all.

It wasn't meant to call you a name, just to get you think about your reaction. I sorta started this thread to get into peoples heads a little bit, (if you can't tell from my other follow up questions) as well as for a little titilation. But I didn't start it to piss anybody off.

I took a gamble that someone open minded enough to experiment with homosexuality might be able to examine their own motives a little deeper, concider the question and find an answer within himself- not necessarily even to share the answer in open forum, just looking at something he might not have considered before. (And of course share if he felt comfortable with it)

I'm not trying to defend myself, just to explain to you my reasoning for asking the question.

You were offended and I am sorry. Hopefully someone will quote me so that you will see this.

Here you go, SnP.