Safe sex: women with women

[Guest]

I saw a thread on the General Board today about safe sex, specifically focusing on safe sex between women, or when anyone (male or female) performs oral sex on a woman. I thought it might yield more educational results if I put a similar thread on this board.

The discussion was about using condoms, cling wrap, or other sorts of barriers when having oral sex with a woman. Basically, someone said something about plastic wrap, and I was suprised to hear that because I just use a condom. I unroll the condom and cut it up the side, and that is what I use as a barrier when I give oral sex to a woman. But this brought up an interesting point: What about genital to genital contact between women? If you can't hold the barrier in place (e.g. a sliced condom or a piece of saran wrap) then are there other ways to protect yourself, besides keeping your clothes on?

Me, I'm not as experienced as most people (at least I don't think I am--I could be wrong) and I never really learned about safe sex between women. Basically, the first time I was with a woman I had to think of a way to make it safe on my own. And ever since then I've always improvised or had to think of rather creative ways to keep things safe (besides not having sex, that is). But I'm sure someone out there is educated about this, and knows more about this than I do.

Any thoughts, ideas, stories, etc?

 

[bisexplicit]

Well, theres always the obvious; go to a clinic together and get tested. Then, remain monogamous, at least during the course of that relationship, and there you go.

 

[MintSoda]

I have to play the monogamy card here too even though I know how ridiculous that is. Dental dams are good, impromptu dental dams are good, but let's face it, lesbian sex is a whole lot more complex than Insert Tab B into Slot A so there really isn't going to be a good protection scheme for everything.

I'd say get tested with a monogamous partner and then don't cheat. If that isn't an option (and for a lot of people it isn't) you may have to forgo butterflying, V on V or whatever you want to call it. That's kind of an intimate thing anyway, I'm not sure I'd want to do that with some girl from a club that I've known for all of 10 minutes.

 

[John Doe]

If she pulls out before she comes, I think it lowers the chances of trasnmisson a lot.

 

[MintSoda]

If she pulls out before she comes, I think it lowers the chances of trasnmisson a lot.

I think that only works for pregnancy and airplane engine stall.

 

[bisexplicit]

I think that only works for pregnancy and airplane engine stall.

...And it doesn't even work for pregnancy, hehe.

 

[John Doe]

I think that only works for pregnancy and airplane engine stall.

Whoever's on top is the one who won;t get pregnant.

As for ariplane engines, that works for carburated engines in general. that is, if you're refering to pulling out the choke to prevent stalling of the engine itself, rather than a flight envelope stall.

 

[bisexplicit]

Whoever's on top is the one who won;t get pregnant.

I'm so very confused. I'm not sure if I'm correct...but women can't get eachother pregnant. *laughs*

 

[venuslvr69]

I've wondered about this. It's one of the things holding me back from having sex with other women. I wonder if another female would be offended if I suggested we get tested at a clinic. I've been tested several times just as a safety measure. I've never had any diseases. I would expect any partner to present a clean bill of health.

 

[T.H. Oughts]

This is something I've been thinking about..... more info or experiences would be appreciated.

 

[Seduce]

Well, theres always the obvious; go to a clinic together and get tested. Then, remain monogamous, at least during the course of that relationship, and there you go.

I suppose it is the only way to be sure.

I had interesting experience with a young woman I met once in swinger -club, she was professional Domme and avoided any sexual contac with men. She showed me how to use condom in oral sex with women.
Until then I just did it with the women I trusted to be healthy.

But I am not yet an expert although I do practice.

I would never be offended if someone asked me for health proof, I think I would actully be relieved..... for I could ask for one back without feeling I am offending someone.

 

[kbate]

Whoever's on top is the one who won't get pregnant.

As for ariplane engines, that works for carburated engines in general that is, if you're refering to pulling out the choke to prevent stalling of the engine itself, rather than a flight envelope stall.

*snicker*

Everyone knows that with Airplane engines, you don't call it "choke" you call it Mixture Enrichment.

 

[SoSeductive]

I think that only works for pregnancy and airplane engine stall.

LMAO!

I'm gonna have to go with the monogamous crowd here, it really is the safest route to go. Just go to a clinic together and get tested, it's really no biggie. And even if you know you're clean, you should get tested as well just to put the other woman's mind at ease and then it won't come off as something you're having her do but rather as something you're willing to do together.

 

[T.H. Oughts]

She showed me how to use condom in oral sex with women.

So how is a condom used for oral sex with a woman.?

 

[John Doe]

*snicker*

Everyone knows that with Airplane engines, you don't call it "choke" you call it Mixture Enrichment.

It's optional.

Although by the same logic you could claim that instead of calling them airplanes, they're actually called aircraft.

 

[marieR19]

Ohhh, just the thread I need to keep a watch on. I have been wondering a lot about how to be sexually safe with women, ever since I started thinking of actually having sex... years ago.
And Seduce, I love your signature.

Marie

 

[Seduce]

Ohhh, just the thread I need to keep a watch on. I have been wondering a lot about how to be sexually safe with women, ever since I started thinking of actually having sex... years ago.
And Seduce, I love your signature.

Marie

Thanks sweetie.

 

[deezire1900]

I really don't want to sleep with someone I have to take to a clinic first...

 

[SophiaY]

If your prospective lover has had a history of heterosexual activity, testing is, my opinion, mandatory. Don’t assume that because she is completely gay that she hasn’t tried men at some point in her life. Lesbians are subject to the same social conditioning, pressures as others (and there is the “just want to make sure” episode that a lot of us have done).

Some STD’s are noticeable at times, like herpes, genital warts, chlamydia, and bacterial vaginosis. But others aren’t. Your partner may not be aware that she has a STD.

I understand that it's very unromantic – but being indifferent, or letting yourself be swept away by the moment – is way too risky in this day and age.

 

[Netzach]

Rather than assume anyone is monogamous, I treat everyone I have sex with as though they have an STD. I just assume they do. Not romantic, but truly the safest thing to do.

Monogamous girlfriends cheat. People lie. People get caught up in the moment. If you make strict rules with yourself and KEEP them, even when you are horny, that's the best way to do safe sex.

I would not do genital to genital even with someone I had under surveillance 24/7 because, let's face it, we have fun things like yeast infections and bacterial infections to give one another even without sex outside the relationship.

Latex gloves, condoms as you mentioned, dams, or saran, way to go. Condoms on toys, too.

 

[John Doe]

I really don't want to sleep with someone I have to take to a clinic first...

Good policy.

 

[gypsywitch]

We did have a circle of friends all have to be tested here which was a little scary. I wasn't involved but one of my best friends found out his ex-wife had contracted HIV from another woman and he admitted that he had been with that other woman as well. Just about everyone that had been with her had been with others so...


Yea... if ever get involved with anyone we're going to know each other really well before anything happens ~ I wouldn't be offended at all if a couple asked me to prove I'm clean, and I'm sure they would do the same. The whole plastic wrap thing is a bit much but understandable.

 

[Never]

I've never used protection during sex and, at this point, I don't see myself doing so in the future.

That said, I dislike the 'monogamy as default' attitude in regards to lesbians.