Saddam captured

[Pure]

Saddam captured.*

Sic semper tyrannis.

(Thus always to tyrants.)

*Relevance: Discuss the media coverage and 'documentation' of this event in relation to evolution of the third person omniscient viewpoint and 'visual' orientation of American pornography and erotica.

 

[raphy]

From cnn.com:

U.S.: 'We got him'

BREAKING NEWS
Saddam captured in raid
• U.S. forces have captured former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, U.S officials said today
• L. Paul Bremer: 'The tyrant is a prisoner'
• Saddam found hiding in basement of farmhouse near Tikrit
• No shots fired by 4th Infantry and special operations forces
• U.S. commander: Prisoner is 'talkative and cooperative'
• Watch continuing coverage on CNN TV

 

[whispering_surrender]

*cheers*

Whisper

 

[oggbashan]

Is it, or is it not, Saddam?

How long will it take to identify the person captured as being the real thing and not a double?

When, I assume when, he is identified how will he be tried, for what, by whom and how many years will that take?

Will the captors attempt to extract WMDs from his ass?

This story will run and run. Look at the trial of Slobodan Milosevic at The Hague.

Will he be taken to Guantanamo Bay?

He should be arraigned for his lack of artistic sense in the decoration of his palaces. That could be an interesting trial.

Og

 

[McKenna]

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[shereads]

Will the captors attempt to extract WMDs from his ass?

ROFL. And I never ROFL.

He should be arraigned for his lack of artistic sense in the decoration of his palaces. That could be an interesting trial.

He did have some Sinatra CDs though...Og, these are serious questions, but you're missing a key issue: Why is none of the more interesting palace decor on Ebay?

I wish I had known they were going to be picking his head lice and inspecting his molars when I turned on the TV while having Sunday morning coffee. Ewww.

 

[shereads]

Saddam captured.*

Sic semper tyrannis.

(Thus always to tyrants.)

Thus sometimes to tyrants.

 

[deliciously_naughty]

Wow...I'd've thought they'd keep him hidden away until about a month before the election in 04 and use it as a last minute popularity boost. Hmmm...maybe that's when they'll FINALLY find a WMD?

 

[Svenskaflicka]

Apparently, they used DNA-samples to make sure it really was Saddam and not one of all his doppelgangers. Though I wonder - the sample that they compared the prisoners to - how can they be sure THAT was from the real Saddam?


It makes a sick sense to mention the family member telling on him. It shows the world that "even his own family is against him".

Cheap PR-trick.

But effective.

Especially if you tell it to people who get all dewey-eyed from hearing a presidential candidate mention that he loves peanutbutter sandwiches.

 

[JRaven]

String him up...

...by his balls. The impression I get is that nobody in Iraq liked him. But many that were afraid of him.

As for the timing, what do you expect? He was found in what amounted to an outhouse shit hole. It takes time to search all those outhouses. The Dems bitched that he wasn't found. Now they bitch because he was. It's as bad as the Reps and Clinton. Same ol' bull shit politics.

 

[MR. Gibson]

it is great that we captured saddam but he wasn't coming back to power anyway in iraq. (and we really only got saddam because a man in iraq told us where he was really I think)there is still so much work for USA, Britain, and their friends to do to stop all these different natives there from trying to take over iraq for themselves. And usa and friends have to make sure that the next guy we have to take over iraq isn't even worse then saddam!!! Am I right?






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[Guest]

From cnn.com:

U.S.: 'We got him'

BREAKING NEWS
Saddam captured in raid
• U.S. forces have captured former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein, U.S officials said today
• L. Paul Bremer: 'The tyrant is a prisoner'
• Saddam found hiding in basement of farmhouse near Tikrit
• No shots fired by 4th Infantry and special operations forces
• U.S. commander: Prisoner is 'talkative and cooperative'
• Watch continuing coverage on CNN TV

It is wonderful news - for many, many people.

I think it was most interesting that he was actually hiding in a hole; they had to use shovels to get to him.

(Kind of like turning a rock over to see what creepy crawly things climb out.)

 

[MR. Gibson]

ha ha ha! very good one! sweetsubsarah! I like it!

 

[Icingsugar]

Cool ZZ Top thing going on there.

He looked just like a drunk-as-a-skunk Santa I managed to steer clear off the other day downtown.

 

[MR. Gibson]

even funnier icingsugar!

 

[shereads]

Deleted mis-post.

 

[shereads]

Mistaken identity?

Using the same basic techniques that CGI artists at the Federal Bureau of Investigation to demonstrate possible disguises and the effects of aging or weight change on fugitives and missing persons, I added 60 pounds or so to this "Saddam Hussein" - assuming he's been living in that hole for awhile, on a diet of god-knows-what, and possibly against his will!

Subtract the head lice, clean him up a little, and here's what he may have looked like a few months ago:

 

[Dirty Slut]

Originally posted by Svenskaflicka
Apparently, they used DNA-samples to make sure it really was Saddam and not one of all his doppelgangers. Though I wonder - the sample that they compared the prisoners to - how can they be sure THAT was from the real Saddam?

By checking his DNA with that of his dead sons.

DS

 

[MR. Gibson]

I think that is right DS. Wow! brains as well as a body!


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[Boxlicker101]

Making Sure

I think there aee ways the government can make sure. There are fingerprints from his palaces, DNA specimens from hair and skin cells found in his palaces, and taken from his dead sons, dental records, voice prints and probably some other things. The CIA and the FBI have ways of making absolutely sure, because nobody is interested in catching a double. When the USA is absolutely sure that they have the right guy, we will all know.

As for what to do, how about turning him over to the government of Kuwait to be tried for the invasion of that country. He will be convicted and beheaded and that will be the end of it. Hopefully, he won't be brought to the United States where he would be able to put on a 20 year propaganda show before dying of old age.

 

[dr_mabeuse]

Re: String him up...

...by his balls. The impression I get is that nobody in Iraq liked him. But many that were afraid of him.

I have a lot of Assyrian neighbors. Assyrians are really Iraqi Christians. What I know about Iraq, I learned from them.

About 60% of Iraq is Shi'a Muslim (like Iran, which is all Shiite), and the other 40% is Sunni, as is Saddam (The Sunni's far outnumber the Shi'a overall in the world of Islam. Saudi Arabia and--I believe--all of the gulf states are Sunni). Saddam was hard on the Shi'as and they hate him for it. The Sunni's pretty much liked him. Most of the trouble the American troops are still having over there are from Sunni strongholds.

Iraq is a confederation of ethnic groups, clans, and tribes whose loyalty to any sort of central government is pretty weak. It's not as bad as Afghanistan, where tribe is everything, but it's no Texas waiting to happen, either. The Kurds in the north are also Sunni muslim, but unlike Saddam, they're not Arab, and are rather more liberal; hence the rather deep animosity.

The Kurds have been dying to get their own country (literally) since before Saddam ever came to power. Their culture is actually more Turkish than Iraqi, but Turkey's kind of afraid of them as a destablizing influence, and really wants to keep them dispersed in Iraq. I don't know if we've promised them their own country or not. Bush Sr. really kind of fucked them over after the '91 war, encouraging them to rise against Saddam and then leaving them high and dry once they did and Saddam started retaliating. That was when Saddam staged his infamous gas attack, in reprisal for their rebellion.

What I'm afraid will happen is that we'll put Chalabi in as our man like we did with the Shah in Iraq after the CIA overthrew the popular (but communist) government in the '50's, and then Chalabi will become a tyrant himself, but our tyrant. Iraq has almost always been ruled by a tyrant, and I really doubt that they'll have any idea of what to do with democracy. But we'll see.

The Shi'ite Mullahs in Iran are overjoyed that Saddam's gone, because they have plans to use their majority to turn Iraq into another Islamic theocracy, so there's no way we're going to give Iraq an honest democracy, not with 60% Shi'as voting. That's one of the things that worried the anti-war crowd, the thinking being that as long as Iraq had a Sunni in charge and Iran was Shi'ite, they'd be at each others' throats. WIth its Shi'a majority, Iraq might now become Iran junior, in which case they would almost certainly have the capacity and will to develop a bomb (Iran's already close; a lot closer than Saddam ever was), and possibly the will and know-how to use it.

---dr.M.

 

[shereads]

Isn't Chalabi the one who's been leading Rumsfeld around by the nose - and had him convinced that this invasion would be welcomed by everyone?

The new tyrant will have to be a democratically elected tyrant because we promised.

 

[shereads]

I just hope Hussein doesn't back Lieberman. Nothing against Joe, but we have to settle on a candidate sooner or later.

 

[MR. Gibson]

Boxlicker and DR. mabeuse you are very intellegent men with very intellegent comments that I agree with along with shereads that we have to put a democratic elected government in and not another tyrant. But here is how I would deal with Saddam, bin laden and any other major terrorist like them. I would tugboat them to california's farallon islands where there are many huge great white sharks feeding on the seals and just dump them in the middle of the water. why not? these terrorists have made chopped, meat out of so many helpless people...now it is their turn

 

[Boxlicker101]

Just Desserts

But here is how I would deal with Saddam, bin laden and any other major terrorist like them. I would tugboat them to california's farallon islands where there are many huge great white sharks feeding on the seals and just dump them in the middle of the water. why not? these terrorists have made chopped, meat out of so many helpless people...now it is their turn.

Well, Mr. Gibson, if we were going to deal with them in that way, a better way would be do dump them, alive but tied up, into a pen of very hungry and semi-wild hogs. The result would be the same but probably more painful and, with the Muslim beliefs of these men, there would be a special terror.

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