Ryan Braun - Bud Selig

[johnnieblue44]

Just wanna make sure I have this right..help me out here....please....

The reigning National League MVP, a budding superstar, a very marketable WHITE poster boy, gets tested positive for steroids, under the thinly-veiled auspices that the drugs were to assist his herpes. Historically, such steroid tests were supposedly 99. 9% accurate, and never had one been overturned in the short history of MLB's new drug-testing policy, which usually caught some Dominican life-long low minor leaguer and suspended his sorry ass.

Ryan eventually gets the allegations dismissed, just in time for Spring Training, because some schmo technician allegedly took the samples home overnight. The commissioner of our beloved pastime, the same jerkoff who turned his back on this very serious drug issue for more than a decade as MLB sluggers turned into WWE torsos, and is conveniently enough the former owner of the team that Mr. Herpes plays for, sends a statement expressing his outrage at the decision.

And then Mr. Herpes holds a press conference that the world was unfair to him while Mr. Potato Head Commish and Mr. Herpes' agent go in the back room of the Good ol' Boys Club, and start sucking each others' dicks in chuckled celebration at the frauds they continue to perpetute on the public.

Fuck you, Bud. And save your fucking crocodle tears, Ryan Braun, you contaminated piece of dung.

Or, am I off-base to anyone that doesn't wear a cheese head hat and lives within 40 miles of butt-fuck Milwaukee.....?

 

[KRCummings]

He got off on a technicality and everyone seems to be pissed about it but it was just lawyers using the collective bargaining agreement. That's what everyone wanted, right? Gotta follow your own rules. MLB lost one and you can bet nobody will be holding samples for two days anymore.

 

[IndieSnob]

Race had nothing to do with it.

It comes down to what Baun's camp says/MLB has said.

In the CBA they agreed to the terms of the testing, and guess what? MLB's testing team didn't meet those terms, which nullifies the results.

No one will ever know but him whether he's guilty or not.

Do I like the decision? Yes, because although it looks like there was no way they were tampered with, how do we know that for sure? Again, MLBs terms, so for them to come out and say they don't like the ruling is a bunch of bullshit. I think it gives them even more of a black eye.

Plus I'll say this. I'll believe more in someone who doesn't have a record of half-truths and being an asshole over someone who wasn't.

 

[johnnieblue44]

Race had nothing to do with it.

It comes down to what Baun's camp says/MLB has said.

In the CBA they agreed to the terms of the testing, and guess what? MLB's testing team didn't meet those terms, which nullifies the results.

No one will ever know but him whether he's guilty or not.

Do I like the decision? Yes, because although it looks like there was no way they were tampered with, how do we know that for sure? Again, MLBs terms, so for them to come out and say they don't like the ruling is a bunch of bullshit. I think it gives them even more of a black eye.

Plus I'll say this. I'll believe more in someone who doesn't have a record of half-truths and being an asshole over someone who wasn't.

You and KC are living in fantasy land, the same approach that insists that every athletic Ohio State program isn't instiutionally corrupt...

 

[KRCummings]

Tell ya none thing, the guy better not ever fail another test in his career. He got a freebie, best use it to keep clean.

 

[IndieSnob]

I won't hold my breath waiting for a logical and rational argument out of you that supports your view on the issue.


The opening post should have said as much.

 

[CHNOPS]

He's probably guilty.

Getting off because of the chain-of-custody thing has nothing to do with race.

Whether the public buys it or not, and how it plays out for him going forward, certainly might. But the more likely option is that this hangs over Braun's head just as convincingly as Lance Armstrong's never-proven juicing hangs over his, and last I checked, Armstrong was quite caucasian.

 

[KRCummings]

The funniest part of all this is that I didn't know Milwaukee still had a team.

 

[johnnieblue44]

I won't hold my breath waiting for a logical and rational argument out of you that supports your view on the issue.


The opening post should have said as much.

Logical and rational is rarely absorbed by irrational and illogical audiences.

 

[Redatlit]

Regardless of whether or not he was using PEDs the process was shoddy and should have been challenged. Laboratory testing is only as good as the collection, process, and in the drug testing and forensics arena the chain of custody. The greater the sensitivity and specificity of the testing involved the more important it is that the specimen is handled properly. If MLB, or any league, wants to place that much importance on PED testing then they need to clean up their procedures.......... at least bring them up to the standards we expect for some minimum wage factory job, ffs.

 

[Silverlily]

Race had nothing to do with it.

It comes down to what Baun's camp says/MLB has said.

In the CBA they agreed to the terms of the testing, and guess what? MLB's testing team didn't meet those terms, which nullifies the results.

No one will ever know but him whether he's guilty or not.

Do I like the decision? Yes, because although it looks like there was no way they were tampered with, how do we know that for sure? Again, MLBs terms, so for them to come out and say they don't like the ruling is a bunch of bullshit. I think it gives them even more of a black eye.

Plus I'll say this. I'll believe more in someone who doesn't have a record of half-truths and being an asshole over someone who wasn't.

I think I might love you for this.

 

[IndieSnob]

Regardless of whether or not he was using PEDs the process was shoddy and should have been challenged. Laboratory testing is only as good as the collection, process, and in the drug testing and forensics arena the chain of custody. The greater the sensitivity and specificity of the testing involved the more important it is that the specimen is handled properly. If MLB, or any league, wants to place that much importance on PED testing then they need to clean up their procedures.......... at least bring them up to the standards we expect for some minimum wage factory job, ffs.

Red! Good to see you!

I think I might love you for this.

Well don't I feel lucky now.

 

[Redatlit]

Red! Good to see you!

Good to see you, too!