Barry Bonds on the roaster again...

[Lasher]

Although the whole "boot McGwire, Sosa and Bonds" argument raises some interesting questions about Gaylord Perry, doesn't it?

Not for me.

 

[Radiohead]

If he blows out his knee in '97 and never plays another game, he
was a lock then.

Thankyou, sir.

I think that is why I have the biggest problem with the roids stuff. He's brilliant, one of the all time greats, but decides to dope up, why? And I guess in regards to what is alleged, how does he randomly figure that McGuire and Sosa are taking the big needle?

 

[Lasher]

And I guess in regards to what is alleged, how does he randomly figure that McGuire and Sosa are taking the big needle?

I don't think there's anything random about it. Guys in the clubhouse know who is doing what.

 

[Drinking Cap]

If he blows out his knee in '97 and never plays another game, he
was a lock then.

He'd have 3 MVP's, 6 Gold Gloves, 374 HR's and 400+ steals. No question hall of famer, quite frankly.

 

[Drinking Cap]

Not for me.

Why not? He admitted to cheating.

 

[Radiohead]

I just want to note, in 94, Aussie rules football suspended a players for Andro for a year.

Its all crap, if baseball can wipe its records for them not policing their own sport when the world standard was already over their heads, its so shamefully hypocritical, they might as well have not have come back after the 94 lockout.

 

[Lasher]

Why not? He admitted to cheating.

Which is one reason why I give him an edge over Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc.

And whether people like it or not, there's different degrees of cheating.

Stealing signs isn't as bad as scuffing the ball, which isn't as bad as corking your bat, which isn't as bad as taking human growth hormone to the point you wear a size 14 hat.

 

[Drinking Cap]

Which is one reason why I give him an edge over Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, etc.

And whether people like it or not, there's different degrees of cheating.

Stealing signs isn't as bad as scuffing the ball, which isn't as bad as corking your bat, which isn't as bad as taking human growth hormone to the point you wear a size 14 hat.

I don't know. I think cheating is cheating.

 

[MakersandIce]

Stealing signs isn't as bad as scuffing the ball, which isn't as bad as corking your bat, which isn't as bad as taking human growth hormone to the point you wear a size 14 hat.

I don't consider stealing signs cheating at all--it's merely using mental prowess to gain an advantage. However, I see no difference in degrees of cheating between scuffing a ball and corking a bat. Both are a case of altering game equipment to gain an advantage.