Rutabaga

KillerMuffin

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Etymology: Swedish dialect rotabagge, from rot root + bagge bag



This is just a weird word. I have never actually used this word to refer to the turnip, I use it euphamistically around children. For instance when someting unpleasant happens and I can't say "clusterfuck" I substitute rutabaga. "Yep, that was a real clusterfu--uhh, rutabaga."

Sometimes you have to look at parts of the English lanuage and just shake your head.
 
Yeah, I've often found myself thinking about the rutabaga thing and then screaming 'WHY?!' to the alarm of passers by.
 
KillerMuffin said:

Sometimes you have to look at parts of the English lanuage and just shake your head.

Lanu, lanu!
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Root Bag...I kinda like that....even more than Turnip Head.
 
KillerMuffin
Etymology: Kansas slang for a noisy female dog in heat.
 
Many roots and veggies have funny names

How about kalorabi (sp?) or rhubarb?
 
Dang it, I actually COOK with rutabaga! It's a must in veggie soup. I'm never going to think of it in the same way again.
 
KillerMuffin said:
You know, CV, that rhubarb really gets me in the ol' rutabaga.
Don't eat too much rhubarb if you are planning to do anal.
 
Etymologically speaking

You sure?

I see rut, other than the whole gouge in the road meaning, as more to be under the more-or-less instinctive influence of periodic (typically annual) sexual excitement, not so much something to do with roots.

Bagging, of course, can refer to either capturing a quarry or stuffing things into a bag (as at the grocery store.)

I'm thinking this is an overlooked aphrodisiacal agent.
 
KillerMuffin said:
Sometimes your experiential wisdom gives me the shivers.
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I like it when CV and KM talk dirty to each other.
 
I had no idea of this.
Nor does it seem I'll get one as I haven't found support for what KM is saying even searching through the Dictionary of the Swedish Academy.

The search goes on,though until I find otherwise I put my trust in Killermuffin.
 
I just typed "rutabaga" into www.m-w.com and up it popped.


Yeah, Manx, I know. Too bad Lanciepants is already wearing them. I do wish he'd quit wearing my bras, he's stretching them out.
 
erm. Turnips are turnips. Rutabagas (according to The Encyclopedia of Food) are thought to be a cross between a turnip and a cabbage.

Although why anyone would have thought to blend those two veggies together is beyond me. Ew, now I have "turnip" and "cabbage" stuck in my head as sexual euphemisms, as in, "c'mon baby, stuff that big ol' turnip of yours into my stinky cabbage!" Ugh.

Mashed rutabagas are tasty, though.
 
Ok,that does it.
Someone is getting a phonecall as soon as office hours starts this morning.

Things like this can really drive me to distraction.

I'm still not doubting you KM,I'm just pissed off at the fact that a word based on Swedish can't be bloody found on a site that is set up by those governing the Swedish language and give out the definite dictionary every year on what words are Swedish and which aren't.
 
Pagliacci said:
Ok,that does it.
Someone is getting a phonecall as soon as office hours starts this morning.

Things like this can really drive me to distraction.

I'm still not doubting you KM,I'm just pissed off at the fact that a word based on Swedish can't be bloody found on a site that is set up by those governing the Swedish language and give out the definite dictionary every year on what words are Swedish and which aren't.
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http://www.dictionary.com/search?q=rutabaga
 
Manx>>

I know I can find it in English dictionaries of all sorts.
I'm trying to find the Swedish word. Since it's based on a Swedish word according to the Dictionaries I've browsed through.
 
Pagliacci said:
Ok,that does it.
Someone is getting a phonecall as soon as office hours starts this morning.

Things like this can really drive me to distraction.

I'm still not doubting you KM,I'm just pissed off at the fact that a word based on Swedish can't be bloody found on a site that is set up by those governing the Swedish language and give out the definite dictionary every year on what words are Swedish and which aren't.

What I found, Pagliacci, was that it was derived from Rotabagge (Encyclopedia of Food) and on the (dear G-d I hope tongue-in-cheek) Advanced Rutabaga Studies Institute website, it says that it's from the Swedish words (which they don't mention) for "thick root" (pointedly ignoring how this bolsters JMJ's joke).

Dunno if that helps or hinders your investigation.
 
If they can't even grow in sweden, why would anybody think it's a swedish word?
 
Nora said:
What I found, Pagliacci, was that it was derived from Rotabagge (Encyclopedia of Food) and on the (dear G-d I hope tongue-in-cheek) Advanced Rutabaga Studies Institute website, it says that it's from the Swedish words (which they don't mention) for "thick root" (pointedly ignoring how this bolsters JMJ's joke).

Dunno if that helps or hinders your investigation.

Well in a way it helps.It makes me feel all cherished that someone takes my plight seriously :)

Jokes aside.I found it after some cursing and random keystrokes on the Site for the Swedish Academy.

The word is indeed dialectal.My bet is that it's from the south of the country,the only evidence supporting this is that there's more farming going on there and saying the word makes it more likely to come from there than the middle or north part of the country.

There are two dialectal variants (Rota-bagge and Rote-bagge) and they both derive from the word Rot-ört ( literally root herb).
As has been pointed out none of the words are in use in this day and age.
The original meaning of the word isn't just turnip but all root vegetables are lumped together under this word. I gather though that it is just a classification thing and that separate root vegetables have kept their separate names.

I don't know if Rota/rote has some dialectal meaning I'm not aware of but Rota is "Scrounge/to search for" in Swedish and Bagge is "Ram" (The animal) no matter how you turn it.

I've no idea where the Rutabaga institute got that it might mean thick root from,so I guess it's tongue in cheek.

I think I need something more worthwhile to waste my energy on than old Swedish words that turn up in other countries.
 
LukkyKnight said:
If they can't even grow in sweden, why would anybody think it's a swedish word?

But they do.
In the southern parts of Sweden.
They're growing sugar beets there in this day and age amongst other things.
 
Pagliacci said:


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I think I need something more worthwhile to waste my energy on than old Swedish words that turn up in other countries.

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Or, you could turn this into a serious research project as a mission from God.
 
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