Rupert Murdoch

[Ishmael]

Seems to be his turn in the barrel this month. The left smells blood and are circling like a school of sharks.

I do have a problem with this media circus. The first of which is the fact that there have been NO criminal charges against those people that were actually engaged in this 'hacking.' In the pursuit of criminal organizations it is the general case that you catch a little fish, turn him/her, catch a bigger fish, etc. All with the force of the law and the proof of criminal wrong doing to back your play.

In this case there is no such proof of criminal wrongdoing. Murdoch just happens to be highly unpopular with a certain segment of the population and he happens to own a concern, now defunct, that offended the sensibilities of many. In a very real respect this reminds me of the big blow up over the NSA wire tapping of foreign phone calls. I'm sure that most of you remember that. Bush was beaten soundly about the head and shoulders, or at least a concerted attempt was made. Nothing came of it and that practice is still ongoing under the present administration, and the silence concerning the wire taps are deafening.

What I find particularly reprehensible is the behavior of those that want to throw Murdoch under the bus for no other reason than you disagree with him, or just don't like him. And this is coming from those of the bent that all things are just shades of grey and I shouldn't be so 'judgmental.' Well, what would you call your behavior if you are among those that want to hang Murdoch out to dry?

If there is a finding of criminal wrongdoing, AND Murdoch is found to be complicit, then by all means hang the bastard. But witch hunts are ugly things. Disgusting to the observer and they leave the participants with really bad tastes in their mouths long after the witch is burned and once you start tying someone to a stake based on your own sensibilities and personal preferences you can never be certain when those sensibilities and preferences might change and you find yourself tied to that stake.

Ishmael

 

[bronzeage]

The real shame of all of this is there is only one news organization truly capable of cutting through the nonsense of this unjustified witch hunt and they are all down at Kinko's making copies of their resumes.

 

[Ishmael]

The real shame of all of this is there is only one news organization truly capable of cutting through the nonsense of this unjustified witch hunt and they are all down at Kinko's making copies of their resumes.

Whether it is unjustifiable or not remains to be seen. Without warrants, arrests, and the other usual trappings of justice it remains a political witch hunt and nothing more.

Ishmael

 

[kbate]

Murdoch has a huge media empire and before indictments, they need time to subpoena every record and memo to learn if he just might burn the kingdom to the ground in the process.

 

[Ishmael]

Murdoch has a huge media empire and before indictments, they need time to subpoena every record and memo to learn if he just might burn the kingdom to the ground in the process.

Unfortunately I can see that happening. Just not here and just not yet.

Ishmael

 

[bronzeage]

Whether it is unjustifiable or not remains to be seen. Without warrants, arrests, and the other usual trappings of justice it remains a political witch hunt and nothing more.

Ishmael

All this stuff supposedly happened in a foreign country, so it's somebody else's warrants, arrests and the other trappings of justice.

It's really more of a "live by the sword, die by the sword" deal. Murdoch's press has indulged in the same treatment he is receiving. If he wanted fair and balanced treatment, he should have tried it on others, first.

 

[zipman]

I don't see this as being politically motivated.

They were hacking voicemails of celebrities for years. The problem is they did it to a murder victim who was a child. The British public is outraged and rightfully so.

There doesn't even need to be any criminal indictments for this to hurt a business.

 

[Ishmael]

All this stuff supposedly happened in a foreign country, so it's somebody else's warrants, arrests and the other trappings of justice.

It's really more of a "live by the sword, die by the sword" deal. Murdoch's press has indulged in the same treatment he is receiving. If he wanted fair and balanced treatment, he should have tried it on others, first.

Shallow justification. Let the other media go after him, and legitimately so. In nations that pride themselves on 'freedom of the press', this is pretty shabby.

Ishmael

 

[miles]

Holder has already stuck his nose in it.

I've been saying it for months: Obama desperately needs a distraction, and this has the potential of being one of the first. The Fuhrer would like nothing better than to publicly discredit Fox News. I guess blackballing them wasn't enough.

 

[Ishmael]

Holder has already stuck his nose in it.

I've been saying it for months: Obama desperately needs a distraction, and this has the potential of being one of the first. The Fuhrer would like nothing better than to publicly discredit Fox News. I guess blackballing them wasn't enough.

Holder has his own problems, if I were Murdoch I'd be exploiting those to the fullest.

Ishmael

 

[bronzeage]

Shallow justification. Let the other media go after him, and legitimately so. In nations that pride themselves on 'freedom of the press', this is pretty shabby.

Ishmael

Shabby is a good word for Murdoch's reputation. He should have been nicer to the people he met on the way up.

 

[Ishmael]

Shabby is a good word for Murdoch's reputation. He should have been nicer to the people he met on the way up.

Innuendo and offense against sensibilities is NOT a crime. The proof of crime is, or should be, based on facts. One of the reasons I applauded the Anthony verdict. A high point in American jurisprudence.

You are making every effort to sustain my point.

Ishmael

 

[miles]

Holder has his own problems, if I were Murdoch I'd be exploiting those to the fullest.

Ishmael

Holder is almost as untouchable as The Fuhrer. The media is conveniently looking the other way while the nation's chief law enforcement officer is busily covering up the Fast & Furious scandal.

 

[bronzeage]

Innuendo and offense against sensibilities is NOT a crime. The proof of crime is, or should be, based on facts. One of the reasons I applauded the Anthony verdict. A high point in American jurisprudence.

You are making every effort to sustain my point.

Ishmael

The press reports as it pleases. That is not a crime. Live with it.

 

[Wrong Element]

Whether it is unjustifiable or not remains to be seen. Without warrants, arrests, and the other usual trappings of justice it remains a political witch hunt and nothing more.

Ishmael

Political witch hunt conducted by who? The U.K. has no First Amendment, and the current British government took power with the support of Murdoch's empire.

P.S. to Miles: You're still a despicable piece of retarded shit.

 

[Ishmael]

Holder is almost as untouchable as The Fuhrer. The media is conveniently looking the other way while the nation's chief law enforcement officer is busily covering up the Fast & Furious scandal.

Call it selective reading then. <shrug>

I think the recent election results speak for themselves.

The collectivists are pulling out all the stops now, they have to. The fact that they are focusing on FOX is an indication of their desperation. They believe, to their soul, that if they can shut down FOX and talk radio, then all will be well in their world. In reality these attempts are nothing more than an admission on their part that they cannot compete in the arena of ideas. To them the ideas of the conservative side of the house are far more threatening than Islamic ideas, a group that supports them contrary to all logic and history.

Ishmael

 

[Ishmael]

The press reports as it pleases. That is not a crime. Live with it.

If that be so, then why is the government involved?

Ishmael

 

[unregistered]

 

[Ishmael]

Leftists everywhere seek to manage the press.

That is a historical trait.

Ishmael

 

[miles]

Call it selective reading then. <shrug>

I think the recent election results speak for themselves.

The collectivists are pulling out all the stops now, they have to. The fact that they are focusing on FOX is an indication of their desperation. They believe, to their soul, that if they can shut down FOX and talk radio, then all will be well in their world. In reality these attempts are nothing more than an admission on their part that they cannot compete in the arena of ideas. To them the ideas of the conservative side of the house are far more threatening than Islamic ideas, a group that supports them contrary to all logic and history.

Ishmael

From CNN on 9/28

Obama: Fox News is 'destructive' to America
By: CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) - President Obama is pulling no punches when it comes to Fox News, declaring the cable news outlet to be "destructive to [America's] long-term growth."

In a more than 8,000-word interview with Rolling Stone Magazine, Obama compared the cable news channel to papers owned by William Randolph Hearst at the turn of the 20th century that unabashedly pushed the media titan's own political views.

"You had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints. I think Fox is part of that tradition – it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view," Obama told the magazine.

Officials in the Obama White House have long made Fox News a punching bag, launching a full blown offensive last year when aides declared the network to be "opinion journalism masquerading as news." Then-White House Communications Director Anita Dunn said the cable outlet "operates almost as either the research arm or the communications arm of the Republican Party," and top aide Valerie Jarret called Fox "clearly biased."

But the new comments from Obama constitute the president's most direct attack yet on the network owned by business mogul Rupert Murdoch.
Fox News pushes "a point of view that I disagree with. It's a point of view that I think is ultimately destructive for the long-term growth of a country that has a vibrant middle class and is competitive in the world," Obama said.
"But as an economic enterprise, it's been wildly successful. And I suspect that if you ask Mr. Murdoch what his number one concern is, it's that Fox is very successful."

Fox has yet to respond to the president. But during the administration offensive against the network last year, network spokesman Michael Clemente slammed the White House for continuing "to declare war on a news organization instead of focusing on the critical issues that Americans are concerned about."

 

[bronzeage]

If that be so, then why is the government involved?

Ishmael

It's somebody else's government. You'll need to ask them. Murdoch is a US citizen. Maybe a drone fired missile strike is in order.

 

[Ishmael]

It's somebody else's government. You'll need to ask them. Murdoch is a US citizen. Maybe a drone fired missile strike is in order.

True, someone Else's government that also lays claim to a free press. So why is Holder and certain democrat congress critters making noise?

Ishmael

 

[garbage can]

Whether it is unjustifiable or not remains to be seen. Without warrants, arrests, and the other usual trappings of justice it remains a political witch hunt and nothing more.

Ishmael

It takes their minds off the Muslim Clerics who are trying to install Sharia law in the UK.

 

[KingOrfeo]

I've heard there's some chance Murdoch may be forced to resign as CEO . . . Like that's a big deal! Didn't dude pass retirement age about 20 years ago?!

 

[tinylittlegnat]

Its getting to the point where a man cant earn billions of dollars by immoral and illegitimate means anymore in this country. Damn Liberals.