Rosco, this is what I meant about rape

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Reasons/ Aggressions on Rape

Rapist are not insane nor are they "sowing some wild oats." They are men who have serious psychological or personality disorders which they discharge through sexual violence. The consequences of this behavior have no meaning to the rapist at the time of the assault. Therefore, he is not bothered by such logical considerations as punishment, disgrace to his family, or injury to his victim. Rape is always an aggressive/violent act. In every single instance of rape aggression is involved, but it is clear that the sexual acts are the means of expressing the aggressive needs or feelings that control the offender.

Either anger or power is the main reason for rape, rather than being an expression of sexual desire; it is in fact the use of sexuality to express these feelings of power and anger (Russell, 1990, P. 121). In some cases of rape it is apparently clear that sex becomes a means of expressing and discharging feelings of pent up anger and rage. This type of rapist attacks his victims, and the assault is characterized by physical brutality. More actual force is used than is necessary if the intent were simply to control the victim. He may use a blitz kind of attack, a violent surprise offensive in which the woman is caught totally off guard (Evans, 1996, P. 78).

The rape experience for this type of assaulter is one of conscious anger and rage, and he expresses his hate through abusive and profane language. If his primary motive is of anger, and if he is not motivated by sex, why doesn’t this type of rapist confine his attack to battering the victim? Why does he also rape her? The answer seems to be that the offender sees rape as the ultimate offense that he can use against another human being. Rape is the ultimate expression of his rage. The victim is faceless to the anger rapist. His victim is an object of his uncontrollable anger (Matsakis, 1996, P. 33).

In a power rape, power is the major factor motivating the rapist. In this type of assault, it is not his desire to harm the victim, but to possess her sexually. Sex becomes a means of compensating for feelings of inadequacy and serves to express his issues of mastery, strength, control, authority, identity, and capability (Herman, 1992, P. 212). His goal is sexual conquest, so he only uses the amount of force necessary to accomplish this goal. His aim is to capture and to control the woman (Ledray, 1986, P. 21). Physical aggression can be used to overpower and trap the woman; however, the intent of the offender is usually to achieve intercourse with this woman as evidence of conquest. To do this, he will resort to whatever force he finds necessary to control his victim and make her helpless. Such types of rapists entertain obsessive thoughts and masturbatory fantasies about sex and rape.

In truth the offender finds little satisfaction in the rape. The attack is disappointing to him; it never ever lives up to his perfect fantasy (Warshaw, 1988, P. 345). He may lie to himself to explain the situation, but he still senses that he has not found what he was looking for in the attack. Therefore he must go out and rape again, in hopes of finding "the right one." This type of rapist may commit several rapes in a very short period of time (Ledray, 1986, P. 4). The attacks are either premeditated or opportunistic. The choice of victim is predominately determined by availability, accessibility, and vulnerability. The sexual assaults primarily coexist with consenting sexual relationships in the life of the offender.

The power rapist will constantly deny that the sexual encounter was forcible. The power rapist desperately needs to think the women wanted and enjoyed it. Following the assault, he may insist on taking the victim out for drinks or dinner and express his wish to discredit any rape report that she might eventually file. But in other cases this mirrors his fantasy expectations that the sexual conquest has created a desire for him on the part of the victim (Koss, 1993, P. 64). In the third pattern of rape, both sex and aggression become fused together into a single experience called sadism. There is a transformation of anger and power so that aggression becomes erotic. This offender finds the intentional mistreatment of his victim extremely gratifying and takes pleasure in her torment and suffering (Evans, 1996, P. 79).

You can see your side in bold
 
Thank you , this clarifies things nicely.

Good to see that the professionals understand where I'm coming from. That makes me feel better.
 
Reasons/ Aggressions on Rape

Rapist are not insane nor are they "sowing some wild oats." They are men who have serious psychological or personality disorders which they discharge through sexual violence. The consequences of this behavior have no meaning to the rapist at the time of the assault. Therefore, he is not bothered by such logical considerations as punishment, disgrace to his family, or injury to his victim. Rape is always an aggressive/violent act. In every single instance of rape aggression is involved, but it is clear that the sexual acts are the means of expressing the aggressive needs or feelings that control the offender.

You know, Adak, we aren't going to agree here. One of the reasons that ideas about rape are so confused is that in Western liberal societies we treat all acts of non-consensual sex as the same. Of course, in one important way they are the same: consent either was, or was not, freely and willingly granted, for the entire duration of the act.

But there is a wide difference between

* Two people who get drunk or stoned at a party and have sex;
* A person who deliberately gets another person drunk or stoned at a party and has sex with them;
* A person in a position of authority who has sex with a person over whom they have authority;
* A person in control of a significant resource (e.g. food or water) who has sex with a person in need of that resource;
* A person who uses threats of public humiliation (blackmail) to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses threats of violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses actual violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses violence to forcibly have sex with another.

(I'm not pretending here that the aggressors are not overwhelmingly men, and the victims overwhelmingly women; I acknowledge this is true)

I'm not excusing any of these behaviours, I'm just pointing out that they're different. And I'd also point out that all the outwardly observable behaviour, in any of those cases, is not evidence of lack of free and willing consent. Consent either happens in the minds of the participants, or it doesn't; and it is not outwardly observable. We here - as people with an interest in some degree of violence in our sexual praxis - must all surely know that even apparently violent sexuality may not only be consensual but actively desired. The whole purpose of 'safe words' is, after all, so that pyls can struggle and protest and resist forcibly without actually withdrawing consent.

We also, probably, acknowledge that consent is not intransient; that there may be moments in a scene in which overall one is a willing participant that one is not willing at all. Does a moment's unwillingness constitute rape? In legal theory, obviously it does.

In Scotland by law one is now required to have explicit consent to sex to be safe from a charge of rape, but this kind of misses the point. The fact that you both willingly agree to have sex at the start of the encounter does not mean that that consent can't change, as I've indicated above. Furthermore, even a certificate of consent signed in triplicate before a notary wouldn't be evidence that that consent had not been coerced.

In the end it comes down to what people feel inside their heads, and if at the end of the day one participant feels raped then she (because it is usually she) has been.
 
What are you, reading my sex fantasy diary??


* Two people who get drunk or stoned at a party and have sex;
* A person who deliberately gets another person drunk or stoned at a party and has sex with them;
* A person in a position of authority who has sex with a person over whom they have authority;
* A person in control of a significant resource (e.g. food or water) who has sex with a person in need of that resource;
* A person who uses threats of public humiliation (blackmail) to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses threats of violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses actual violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses violence to forcibly have sex with another.
 
What are you, reading my sex fantasy diary??


* Two people who get drunk or stoned at a party and have sex;
* A person who deliberately gets another person drunk or stoned at a party and has sex with them;
* A person in a position of authority who has sex with a person over whom they have authority;
* A person in control of a significant resource (e.g. food or water) who has sex with a person in need of that resource;
* A person who uses threats of public humiliation (blackmail) to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses threats of violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses actual violence to coerce another into submitting to sex;
* A person who uses violence to forcibly have sex with another.

The bolded ones are my faves.
 
Rape is a terrible thing. It reflects man’s inhumanity towards other (wo)men. I personally abhor rape and would like to see it eradicated from all societies. However there is research beyond the “Rape is a power crime having nothing to do with sex”

Humans are hardwired to procreate. It is a basal instinct. Some men, with limited psychological/physical control rape as a means of spreading seed. A look at the rape statistics posted below show this seed is spread to victims of convenience, but that does not mean the selections made earlier were not made for biological reasons. Sex, which some rapes are part of, is a huge topic.

There is some basic “easy read” information on rape right here on the internet. (Imagine that.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape


A few more details regarding motivation are here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motivation_for_rape

And for those who don’t like to link here is some basic information.

Motivation
Main article: Motivation for rape
There is no single theory that conclusively explains the motivation for rape; the motives of rapists can be multi-factorial and are subject to debate. Several factors have been proposed: anger, a desire for power, sadism, sexual gratification,[57] and evolutionary pressures.[57]
Research suggests that having anger at women and having the need to control or dominate them are repeatedly found motivational factors of male rapists.[58] In a study, Marshall et al. (2001) found that male rapists had less empathy toward women that had been sexually assaulted by an unknown assailant and more hostility toward women than other males.[59] Freund et al. (1983) stated that most rapists do not have a preference for rape over consensual sex.[60] Marshall et al. (1991) stated that there are no significant differences between the arousal patterns of male rapists and other males.[61]
The relation between prostitution and rape has also been discussed. Some authors have theorized that the acceptance of prostitution increases sexual violence against women, as it reinforces stereotypical views about women, who are seen as sex objects which can be used and abused by men.[62][63][64] Others, however, believe that legalized prostitution decreases rape rates, by offering men easy access to sex.[65] Establishing whether there is any connection between rape and legalized prostitution is difficult, as different countries around the world have different definitions of what can legally be charged as rape, and higher rape rates do not necessarily mean that more sexual abuse occurs; they might indicate that the victims from that country are more likely to report such assaults.

US rape statistics
Rape by a stranger is by far the least common form of rape.[2]
Rape of women by men, by perpetrator[2]
Perpetrator Frequency
Steady dating partner 21.6%
Casual friend 16.5%
Ex-boyfriend 12.2%
Acquaintance 10.8%
Close friend 10.1%
Casual date 10.1%
Husband 7.2%
Stranger 2%
 
I don't think sexual gratification or a desire to procreate are enough to explain the phenomenon of rape on their own. There are other channels for men to seek those things. In a rapist's mind, gratification and control are conflated which is why they seek an outlet for them in rape (coerced sex). That pleasure plays a role isn't disputed - but it's not normal pleasure derived from consentual sex, but the pleasure of emotionally and physically dominating someone in a real way as opposed to a mere fantasy.
 
My feelings on this subject are so strong and so controversial that I simply cannot share them with anyone, lest I place my life or liberty in grave danger.
 
Thank you!

this is one of the most intelligent threads I have ever read on Lit! Thank you.
 
Is it really rape?

No joke. When we would be watching TV news, and the was somebody accusing another of rape, my wife would often comment that the woman apparently didn't have a good orgasm, which is why she accused the guy of rape, to get even with him. Yes, just as any woman will tell you it was HE who caused the divorce. Always the guy. It was HE who got her pregnant. No, she had nothing to do with it.

Nobody should condone REAL rape. But the reality is, "rape" seems to be a catch-all phrase today. Hell, "sexual harassment" can be charged against you just for a guy putting his arm around a woman he knows and telling her she's dressed real nice and sexy today!

Don't most women WANT to look attractive? Yet god forbid some guy tells her what he thinks she wants to hear, and guess what?
 
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