Robert Reich: Beware Trump’s Election Night Trick

[Politruk]

It's based on the "red mirage": Early returns will favor the GOP -- because Pub-leaning jurisdictions are mostly underpopulated rural counties that naturally will finish counting their votes before the cities do. Then comes the "Blue Shift" -- the Dem total catches up and Trump cries foul, even though nothing suspicious is really going on at all.

 

[RoryN]

In other words, exactly what he did in 2020.

Yeah - I think we're all prepared.

 

[Politruk]

Smart guy, Reich -- his book The Work of Nations really lays it out, as to why the power and incomes of the working class have been declining since the 1970s.

 

[Biglibido99]

Most of the fuckwits that Trump convinced to vote in 2016, have no interest in policies or politics - they simply voted for a TV guy who they recognised & believed he would give politicians the finger. They have little idea how voting works in 'merica - don't understand the arcane electoral college voting system or what happens if the Jan 6th certification process isn't completed (for whatever reason - disruption or plain refusal to accept the certification) and the voting of a president goes to the house of representatives - in which case Trump will be elected.

Same playlist as 2020 but it's going to be a more focused, more refined effort this time with the house speaker in situ, Mike Johnson

 

[Politruk]

and the voting of a president goes to the house of representatives - in which case Trump will be elected.

Not if the House flips -- because the new Congress begins BEFORE the presidential vote is certified.

 

[icanhelp1]

Not if the House flips -- because the new Congress begins BEFORE the presidential vote is certified.

I would hope that the votes would be tallied by Jan 3rd???

 

[RobDownSouth]

Not if the House flips -- because the new Congress begins BEFORE the presidential vote is certified.

wait, what? I thought the new Congress was sworn in on the same day as the President? Am I mistaken?

 

[Politruk]

wait, what? I thought the new Congress was sworn in on the same day as the President? Am I mistaken?

No, I think it's a few days before the certification. Certainly not the day of the presidential inaugural -- if that were so, the ceremony would be entirely different.

 

[RobDownSouth]

No, I think it's a few days before the certification. Certainly not the day of the presidential inaugural -- if that were so, the ceremony would be entirely different.

Okay, that makes sense. I learned something new today.

 

[Rebel5soul]

Robert Reich

 

[Politruk]

Robert Reich

See here.

 

[RoryN]

I would hope that the votes would be tallied by Jan 3rd???

all those black daddies living by the 4 fs ( find them, feel them, fuck them, forget them ).

Post in thread 'The real badbabysitter finally revealed..' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/the-real-badbabysitter-finally-revealed.1504564/post-90980000

blacks have a higher propensity of violence than all races combined.

Post in thread 'If America Is Racist, Why Have Millions of Blacks Emigrated Here?' https://forum.literotica.com/thread...f-blacks-emigrated-here.1547263/post-93907526

I wouldn’t even think of walking a predominately black neighborhood, wouldn’t end well.

Post in thread 'White Officers in Minority Communities' https://forum.literotica.com/threads/white-officers-in-minority-communities.1525284/post-92435953

 

[Biglibido99]

Not if the House flips -- because the new Congress begins BEFORE the presidential vote is certified.

Yes, isn't that why trump is focusing on NY campaigning where the Dems hope to pick up seats & tip the house?

 

[Biglibido99]

I would hope that the votes would be tallied by Jan 3rd???

Indeed, the house is certified on Jan 3rd so let's see how that goes - can the swearing in be interfered with if the Dems will have the majority? Can the current speaker of the house have some undue influence ? Is some quorum needed - pulling the house gop members out?

A quorum is needed in order to elect a new speaker - so Johnson pulling his members out prevents this - effectively shutting down any possible gov business

 

[YDB95]

Yes, isn't that why trump is focusing on NY campaigning where the Dems hope to pick up seats & tip the house?

That, plus he probably wants to be able to point to it as proof that he really won, because he had support even in NY.


Also of note: we can expect the red mirage to be especially severe in Pennsylvania, because of laws backed by Republicans that disallow counting of absentee and early ballots in Philadelphia until election day (note we are NOT talking about announcing the results of those votes - only counting them). In 2020, there were just too many to count in one day. That will probably be the case this time as well.

 

[Politruk]

A quorum is needed in order to elect a new speaker - so Johnson pulling his members out prevents this - effectively shutting down any possible gov business

That would be even more drastic than a government shutdown. It would be a constitutional crisis.

 

[SevMax2]

I don't always agree with Robert Reich, but to be fair, he's right more often than he is wrong, and he was the least neoliberal member of the Clinton cabinet.

 

[JoePepsiCo]

He's still alive???


Reminds me of the Rush, Reic-c-c-c-c-c-h-h-h-h-h...,

 

[Politruk]

Watch out for this tomorrow night.